angelfish problem

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I have a pair of anglefish and they both have some stringy white fuzz
coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes and one of the fish is
rubbing its nose against the glass. In another, probably unrelated
problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?


I appreciate any help.

[Frank]

mchik wrote,
>they both have some stringy white fuzz
>coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
>In another, probably unrelated
>problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
>the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?

Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
foods........... Frank

[Altum]

Frank wrote:
> mchik wrote,
>> they both have some stringy white fuzz
>> coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
>> In another, probably unrelated
>> problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
>> the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
>
> Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
> parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
> Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
> Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
> Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
> foods........... Frank
>
Is Tetra still making a medicated food? My LFS don't carry it. Do you
know of a mail-order house that carries it? I'm getting ready to buy
and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish and I'd like to have it on hand.
Fish won't eat the Jungle stuff.

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[Mister Gardener]

On 21 Apr 2006 21:36:22 -0700, "Frank" >
wrote:

>mchik wrote,
>>they both have some stringy white fuzz
>>coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
>>In another, probably unrelated
>>problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
>>the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
>
>Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
>parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
>Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
>Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
>Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
>foods........... Frank

It's stuff like this that makes Frank such a valuable member here. I
mean, who else would know or tell us that Flex is resistant to one
particular company's medicated foods. All these great tidbits of info
that should go into a little notebook. But 2 years from now, when my
fish have Flex, I'll get on line and ask Frank what to do.

-- Mister Gardener

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[Frank]

Altum wrote,
>Is Tetra still making a medicated food?

Good question - every once in a while I would run across some of
Tetra's medicated foods, and buy what ever they had. I think your right
- ever since the 'mad cow' disease, or was it 'hoof and mouth' - well,
one of those - ever since then, one can't find their medicated foods -
something to do with the gelatin within it I think(?) Their medicated
food for parasites contains Trimethoprim Sulfamethoxazole, which also
worked great on swimbladder infections and 50% of the time on dropsy -
good stuff, to good to just stop making it(?)....

>I'm getting ready to buy
>and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish ........

Yes - one of the things needed for a good 'quarantine preventive
treatment' - I have been using eather a homemade antibiotic food, or a
Waterlife product called Protozin and Myxazin since I can't find Tetra
anymore. Protozin and Myxazin works good, and fish will eat the stuff
;-) ............. Frank

[Tynk]

Altum wrote:
> Frank wrote:
> > mchik wrote,
> >> they both have some stringy white fuzz
> >> coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
> >> In another, probably unrelated
> >> problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
> >> the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
> >
> > Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
> > parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
> > Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
> > Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
> > Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
> > foods........... Frank
> >

>
> --
> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

Hi ya Frank. = )

> Is Tetra still making a medicated food? My LFS don't carry it. Do you
> know of a mail-order house that carries it? I'm getting ready to buy
> and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish and I'd like to have it on hand.
> Fish won't eat the Jungle stuff.

I thought Tetra stopped making it....something about the same thing
happening with the fish antibiotics as what's happening with the human
types..over use leads to resistant strains of bacteria, etc.

As for the Jungle Brands...Nothing that lives in water have I ever seen
eat that stuff!
Same with their parasite food....tried that on my Clowns with internal
parasites ("Skinny disease" as it's often called). Nothing ate that
stuff.

Now people do make their own...I just don't know how.
I know others here have said exactly how to. I think you soak dry food
in the medication, but how and how much and how long you can save it,
or if it's just make what you need to feed right then and there...I
don't have a clue. That wasn't discussed so I've never tried making my
own.

[Tynk]

Altum wrote:
> Frank wrote:
> > mchik wrote,
> >> they both have some stringy white fuzz
> >> coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
> >> In another, probably unrelated
> >> problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
> >> the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
> >
> > Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
> > parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
> > Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
> > Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
> > Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
> > foods........... Frank
> >

>
> --
> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

Hi Ya Altum. = )

> Is Tetra still making a medicated food? My LFS don't carry it. Do you
> know of a mail-order house that carries it? I'm getting ready to buy
> and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish and I'd like to have it on hand.
> Fish won't eat the Jungle stuff.

I had heard they stopped making it because of over use creating
resistant strains of bactiera (same as what's happening with human
antibiotics).
As far as the Jungle brand....I totally agree. I've not seen anything
that lives in water eat either that or their parasite version.
Tetras....Never had a prob getting fish to eat their anti-bacteria
food.
I actually still have some. Anyone know if it goes bad?
It's been open for yrs, but I kept the container in a ziplock type
baggy (It really smells nasty, doesn't it).

[Altum]

Tynk wrote:
> Altum wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> mchik wrote,
>>>> they both have some stringy white fuzz
>>>> coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
>>>> In another, probably unrelated
>>>> problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
>>>> the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
>>> Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
>>> parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
>>> Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
>>> Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
>>> Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
>>> foods........... Frank
>>>
>
>> --
>> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
>> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com
>
> Hi Ya Altum. = )
>
>> Is Tetra still making a medicated food? My LFS don't carry it. Do you
>> know of a mail-order house that carries it? I'm getting ready to buy
>> and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish and I'd like to have it on hand.
>> Fish won't eat the Jungle stuff.
>
> I had heard they stopped making it because of over use creating
> resistant strains of bactiera (same as what's happening with human
> antibiotics).
> As far as the Jungle brand....I totally agree. I've not seen anything
> that lives in water eat either that or their parasite version.
> Tetras....Never had a prob getting fish to eat their anti-bacteria
> food.

So it's not just my critters. That's good to know. I miss the Tetra
foods. They were easy to use.

> I actually still have some. Anyone know if it goes bad?
> It's been open for yrs, but I kept the container in a ziplock type
> baggy (It really smells nasty, doesn't it).

If it's not frozen, I discard all fish food after six months. The
essential fatty acids and some of the vitamins oxidize. There can also
be mold contamination leading to afalotoxin buildup.

Most medicines break down too. Human medicines tend to have a
shelf-life from about one to three years.

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[Tynk]

Altum wrote:
> Tynk wrote:
> > Altum wrote:
> >> Frank wrote:
> >>> mchik wrote,
> >>>> they both have some stringy white fuzz
> >>>> coming out of one of their "nostril-like" holes ...
> >>>> In another, probably unrelated
> >>>> problem I noticed that the breeding tube of the male instead of being
> >>>> the light color has a dark red spot on the end. What could this be?
> >>> Flexibacter disease - cause = stress (sudden changes in water
> >>> parameters). Treat tank with an antibiotic such as Kanamycin or Maracyn
> >>> Two as they won't do any harm to the filter's bacterial colonies.
> >>> Feeding a medicated food twice a day for 10 days will also help. Not
> >>> Tetra's, as Flex. Disease is resistant to their medicated
> >>> foods........... Frank
> >>>
> >
> >> --
> >> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
> >> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com
> >
> > Hi Ya Altum. = )
> >
> >> Is Tetra still making a medicated food? My LFS don't carry it. Do you
> >> know of a mail-order house that carries it? I'm getting ready to buy
> >> and quarantine some "feeder" goldfish and I'd like to have it on hand.
> >> Fish won't eat the Jungle stuff.
> >
> > I had heard they stopped making it because of over use creating
> > resistant strains of bactiera (same as what's happening with human
> > antibiotics).
> > As far as the Jungle brand....I totally agree. I've not seen anything
> > that lives in water eat either that or their parasite version.
> > Tetras....Never had a prob getting fish to eat their anti-bacteria
> > food.
>
> So it's not just my critters. That's good to know. I miss the Tetra
> foods. They were easy to use.
>
> > I actually still have some. Anyone know if it goes bad?
> > It's been open for yrs, but I kept the container in a ziplock type
> > baggy (It really smells nasty, doesn't it).
>

>
> --
> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

> If it's not frozen, I discard all fish food after six months. The
> essential fatty acids and some of the vitamins oxidize. There can also
> be mold contamination leading to afalotoxin buildup.
>
> Most medicines break down too. Human medicines tend to have a
> shelf-life from about one to three years.

Thanks Altum. Good to know.
I'll toss it out right away. I've not used it since I first opened it
(treating adult Angels that were suffering from the Angel virus and I
had to try something to battle the secondary Fin Rot infection that
usually ends up killing them). I guess it's a good thing that I've not
used it since. I would have never thought about mold growing in it. = /