How bad is it?

[Suzie-Q]

How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
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~~~~~~
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[Mister Gardener]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:05:07 GMT, Suzie-Q >
wrote:

>How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
>aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
>I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Do they let people take their aquariums to homeless shelters?

-- Mister Gardener

[MEAlston]

I think the swankier homeless shelters have their own aquariums

[Mister Gardener]

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:54:49 GMT, "MEAlston"
> wrote:

>I think the swankier homeless shelters have their own aquariums
>
Yeah, I think those are the shelters where the governor carves the
turkey and his staff serve the residents and the TV cameras get it on
the 6 o'clock news and for one day a year people care.

-- Mister Gardener

[Koi-Lo]

"Suzie-Q" > wrote in message
...
> How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
> aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
> I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
================
Hummmm,....... I've never had it that bad but I was close.
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Aquariums since 1952.
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http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[Nikki]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Suzie-Q" > wrote in message
> ...
>> How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
>> aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
>> I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
> ================
> Hummmm,....... I've never had it that bad but I was close.
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
>
>
I guess its ok as long as your the only one going with out food, me.... I
got kids who depend on me and daddy to make sure they all got cable in their
rooms, cell phones, and all the other comforts they have become accustomed
to, if we dont pay the bills they would be chasing behind us waving them in
the air.
Nik

[MEAlston]

I'm thankful I was born in '60. If we needed playtime..we grabbed a ball
and glove. Bedtime was 8PM without fail...9PM when I turned twelve.
Discipline was swift and sure. If you were told to get a switch...you got
it worse if you brought back a whimpy switch...respecting elders...no sass
talk...no pierced navals...ahh..the days.

[Beano]

I was born in the 80's and my life is looking a bit like the 60's.
Although we were allowed to have a Nintendo, it wasn't allowed to be
played unless it was school holidays.

[Nikki]

I was born in the early 70's
think we got every year getting covered, we do spoil the kids, but have fun
being able to do it...we had it kind of hard growing up...pretty much like
every one else
Nik


"Beano" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I was born in the 80's and my life is looking a bit like the 60's.
> Although we were allowed to have a Nintendo, it wasn't allowed to be
> played unless it was school holidays.
>

[Daniel Morrow]

Bottom posted.
"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
> I was born in the early 70's
> think we got every year getting covered, we do spoil the kids, but have
fun
> being able to do it...we had it kind of hard growing up...pretty much like
> every one else
> Nik
>
>
> "Beano" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I was born in the 80's and my life is looking a bit like the 60's.
> > Although we were allowed to have a Nintendo, it wasn't allowed to be
> > played unless it was school holidays.
> >
>
>

I was born in the early 70's too. When I think back to those days I had it a
lot better than I thought back then. My first computer (technically) was one
of those space invader led games and my first REAL computer was the
commodore vic-20 which I didn't get the support to really take advantage of
it (graphics, sound, memory) until 2 or more years after we first bought it.
At first all I could do with it is basic basic programming, and back then I
thought wrongly that it wasn't capable of redefined/bitmap graphics without
special hardware added to it. Oh well, things could have been better but we
were still spoiled rotten by our parents and adult guardian types. My mother
had angel fish up until I was about in 2 nd grade and I started my own hobby
in fish keeping in 6 th grade. Good luck all and later!

[Koi-Lo]

"Nikki" > wrote in message
. ..
> I guess its ok as long as your the only one going with out food, me.... I
> got kids who depend on me and daddy to make sure they all got cable in
> their rooms, cell phones, and all the other comforts they have become
> accustomed to, if we dont pay the bills they would be chasing behind us
> waving them in the air.
===================
Eeeeeek! Your kids have it made in the shade. When my son was young (60s
and 70s) I thought he was spoiled with a color TV in his room! Oh, his
grandfather bought it for him. He never asked for his own phone.

I had a phone in my room at 15 but had to pay my own bills from my job. I
was also expected to buy my own clothes. Since I never cared much for TV I
didn't have one until after I was married. I did have an aquarium in my
room. ;-) Having more space after I was married I bought a 20Long, then a
30g........

Anyway,....kids sure have it different these days.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[Koi-Lo]

"MEAlston" > wrote in message
...
> I'm thankful I was born in '60. If we needed playtime..we grabbed a ball
> and glove. Bedtime was 8PM without fail...9PM when I turned twelve.
> Discipline was swift and sure. If you were told to get a switch...you got
> it worse if you brought back a whimpy switch...respecting elders...no sass
> talk...no pierced navals...ahh..the days.
=====================
I thought I had everything because I had a tropical plant, a 10g tank, a
phone, a canary, a great rocking-chair to read in and my own record-player
in my bedroom as a teenager in the 50s and 60s. Of course I paid for all
these things (except the rocker). I don't understand why today's kids
expect their parents to pay for all their goodies.... ?!?!?! What
happened?
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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[Frank]

Suzie-Q wrote,
>I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad....

No - you just *think* you have it bad. When the bug hit me, I had to
get a part time job to support it - 6 days a week. If it wasn't for the
'blue law' at the time here in Missouri (USA), I would have been
working 7 days a week to support the hobby (the blue law wouldn't let
stores to be open on Sundays)! 104 tanks in the basement within a year
(mabe a little more, but not much), then, we opened our *first* store.
Now that's when you have it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad ;-) .........
Frank

[MEAlston]

I think it started after WW II..returning GI's seeking a blissful retreat
from their horrific experiences over Europe. Soon to follow was the Korean
conflict...the Cuban Misslie Crisis, the British Invasion, Drugs,Sex &
RocknRoll, then the Kennedy assasination... the Vietnam era...IMHO..it seems
that parents were dealing with a fear-factor of a government two-stepping
left and right on Capital Hill, -and parents wanted to spoil their children
out of that fear. It's understandable in a sense.
I hope my rambling isn't found offensive.

In my room growing up, I had a transistor radio, my pellet rifle, a barbell
set and a 10g w/airstones, a rocker and two dogs. I had my household choirs
for allowance and every summer cutting yards for the neighbors. Wait..the
fish were spoiled too..best I can remember!! I think the tap water was
better back in the '60's as well. My local water, back then, was so pure
that it didn't require ANY treatment until it became law.

[Koi-Lo]

"MEAlston" > wrote in message
...
>I think it started after WW II..returning GI's seeking a blissful retreat
> from their horrific experiences over Europe. Soon to follow was the
> Korean
> conflict...the Cuban Misslie Crisis, the British Invasion, Drugs,Sex &
> RocknRoll, then the Kennedy assasination... the Vietnam era...IMHO..it
> seems
> that parents were dealing with a fear-factor of a government two-stepping
> left and right on Capital Hill, -and parents wanted to spoil their
> children
> out of that fear. It's understandable in a sense.
> I hope my rambling isn't found offensive.

But it wasn't that generation (baby boomers) that were spoilt rotten. I
lived in a middle class neighborhood and just about all us teens were
expected to get pt jobs and contribute to our support. It never occurred to
us that our parents should provide the expensive "in style" clothing, radios
or hi-fi's, TVs and phones for our rooms. Those luxuries we supplied for
ourselves. My mother told me later on that taught us the value of a dollar,
managing money and good work ethics. She was right as I've never been in
debt in my life.

> In my room growing up, I had a transistor radio, my pellet rifle, a
> barbell
> set and a 10g w/airstones, a rocker and two dogs. I had my household
> choirs
> for allowance and every summer cutting yards for the neighbors.

Before the age of 15 I also had chores to do and was paid $5 a week to do
them. Ugh! :þ I despise housework to this day.

Wait..the
> fish were spoiled too..best I can remember!! I think the tap water was
> better back in the '60's as well. My local water, back then, was so pure
> that it didn't require ANY treatment until it became law.

I always remember having to use something for chlorine in NYC and here in
TN.

To include the message you're replying to so we know who that person is,
please go to Tools/Options/Send Tab and click on "include message in reply."
:-)

--
Koi-Lo....
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Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[Nikki]

"MEAlston" > wrote in message
...
>I think it started after WW II..returning GI's seeking a blissful retreat
> from their horrific experiences over Europe. Soon to follow was the
> Korean
> conflict...the Cuban Misslie Crisis, the British Invasion, Drugs,Sex &
> RocknRoll, then the Kennedy assasination... the Vietnam era...IMHO..it
> seems
> that parents were dealing with a fear-factor of a government two-stepping
> left and right on Capital Hill, -and parents wanted to spoil their
> children
> out of that fear. It's understandable in a sense.
> I hope my rambling isn't found offensive.
>
> In my room growing up, I had a transistor radio, my pellet rifle, a
> barbell
> set and a 10g w/airstones, a rocker and two dogs. I had my household
> choirs
> for allowance and every summer cutting yards for the neighbors. Wait..the
> fish were spoiled too..best I can remember!! I think the tap water was
> better back in the '60's as well. My local water, back then, was so pure
> that it didn't require ANY treatment until it became law.
>
>
I think it depends on what kind of spoil you do, and how your children
handle it, I also think people do it for several different reasons, kids
today are very different then years ago..
My husband lost his mom shortly after he was born ..from cystic fibrosis,
her family blamed him, he had it hard growing up, so he thinks its his job
to make sure our kids are happy, I think because he was not, We always laugh
because every one fusses over our kids, they are so sweet, they will do
anything for you, they have such good manors (which is hard to find these
days) now lord knows they don't always act that way at home, and we always
say send those kids to our house (we sometimes lock our selves in the
bedroom to get a brake lol), but we are glad they know how to act out side
the house, all three are high honor roll students, two go to the gifted
center, and all in all they are good kids, If at any point these things
would change like their grades or behavior, all their things that we work
hard for them to have would be ripped out from under them quickly, but I
have to say they do choirs every day, do homework before they go any where
and both older ones play sports and have practice five days a week, so they
are good kids we don't mind spoiling them because they do what we expect of
them..
Nik

[Koi-Lo]

"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
If at any point these things
> would change like their grades or behavior, all their things that we work
> hard for them to have would be ripped out from under them quickly, but I
> have to say they do choirs every day, do homework before they go any where
> and both older ones play sports and have practice five days a week, so
> they are good kids we don't mind spoiling them because they do what we
> expect of them..
===================
I sounds like you have a family to be proud of. :-)
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on this NG.
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[NetMax]

"Suzie-Q" > wrote in message
...
> How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
> aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
> I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
> --
> 8^(~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)


I still buy filters when they are on sale, but I now have more filters
than aquariums, so the last two are still in their box. When I was
growing up, filters were the most expensive part, so you could never have
enough or good enough filters. Back then (14 years old?) when I didn't
have enough money, I worked at a pet shop for store credits. Now I have
money, but I still can't seem to completely shake all my fishy habits.
If I see an FX-5 for sale, I'll probably buy it and then I'll have to
build a 400g tank to use it ;~).
--
www.NetMax.tk/

[Nikki]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nikki" > wrote in message
> ...
> If at any point these things
>> would change like their grades or behavior, all their things that we work
>> hard for them to have would be ripped out from under them quickly, but I
>> have to say they do choirs every day, do homework before they go any
>> where and both older ones play sports and have practice five days a week,
>> so they are good kids we don't mind spoiling them because they do what we
>> expect of them..
> ===================
> I sounds like you have a family to be proud of. :-)
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> *Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on this NG.
> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
>
yes there kind of nice to have.....make me happy **most of the time** their
kids
Nik

[swarvegorilla]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
> "Suzie-Q" > wrote in message
> ...
>> How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
>> aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
>> I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
>> --
>> 8^(~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
>
>
> I still buy filters when they are on sale, but I now have more filters
> than aquariums, so the last two are still in their box. When I was
> growing up, filters were the most expensive part, so you could never have
> enough or good enough filters. Back then (14 years old?) when I didn't
> have enough money, I worked at a pet shop for store credits. Now I have
> money, but I still can't seem to completely shake all my fishy habits. If
> I see an FX-5 for sale, I'll probably buy it and then I'll have to build a
> 400g tank to use it ;~).
> --
> www.NetMax.tk/
>


Amen!
If I can't fit a new fish in me tanks I'll buy a FBF with built in UVC and
vibration shaker or something.
Way I see it, he who dies with the most stuff wins!
:-)
Thinking about converting 100 of me 2 footers into corner side drop air up
lift filters. Just a bit of glass in the corner, air uplift tube thru matrix
and then some floss that gets squeezed out once a week.
A few years ago all I wanted was cannisters.... now I have dozens and I'm
thinkin it's time to go back to basics on most tanks.
Aside from fish I gotta birdy but other than that I save for da fish.....
Never quite know when someone might bring me something really nice and I
have to setup a coldwater marine tank or a fry rack.
For that I have my mountain of fish junk.
I can build anything almost with bits of yesterdays technology, fits
together like leggo.
Prob have 50 big styrofoam boxes of impellors, plumbing and tubes etc.
Luv it!
Just wish I didn't have to explain cycling so often is all!

[Roy]

"Roy" Hauer aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...

Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
dickhead. See you should have spent more time studying instead of
playing with yourself. Has anyone ever told you that you look like a
Dick with ears? Well if not, you do!

Well I am of the belief that your still a ****ing asshole.

"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
u...
>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Suzie-Q" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> How bad is it when you continue to buy stuff for your future 55-gallon
> >> aquarium even though you should be paying bills and buying food?
> >> I got it baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
> >> --
> >> 8^(~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
> >
> >
> > I still buy filters when they are on sale, but I now have more filters
> > than aquariums, so the last two are still in their box. When I was
> > growing up, filters were the most expensive part, so you could never
have
> > enough or good enough filters. Back then (14 years old?) when I didn't
> > have enough money, I worked at a pet shop for store credits. Now I have
> > money, but I still can't seem to completely shake all my fishy habits.
If
> > I see an FX-5 for sale, I'll probably buy it and then I'll have to build
a
> > 400g tank to use it ;~).
> > --
> > www.NetMax.tk/
> >
>
>
> Amen!
> If I can't fit a new fish in me tanks I'll buy a FBF with built in UVC and
> vibration shaker or something.
> Way I see it, he who dies with the most stuff wins!
> :-)
> Thinking about converting 100 of me 2 footers into corner side drop air up
> lift filters. Just a bit of glass in the corner, air uplift tube thru
matrix
> and then some floss that gets squeezed out once a week.
> A few years ago all I wanted was cannisters.... now I have dozens and I'm
> thinkin it's time to go back to basics on most tanks.
> Aside from fish I gotta birdy but other than that I save for da fish.....
> Never quite know when someone might bring me something really nice and I
> have to setup a coldwater marine tank or a fry rack.
> For that I have my mountain of fish junk.
> I can build anything almost with bits of yesterdays technology, fits
> together like leggo.
> Prob have 50 big styrofoam boxes of impellors, plumbing and tubes etc.
> Luv it!
> Just wish I didn't have to explain cycling so often is all!
>
>

[Larry Blanchard]

Roy wrote:

> Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
.....

Gee, Roy must be running out of invective. Now he just resends the same
message over and over.

I'm beginning to wonder who's trolling who. Anytime there's a post
here, Roy feels compelled to respond. Seems to me he's the one biting
the hook.

And he'll certainly bite on this one :-).

--
It's turtles, all the way down

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
u...
> Way I see it, he who dies with the most stuff wins!
> :-)
========================>
Wait'll you have it so bad you start setting up tanks, half barrels, kiddy
pools and ponds out in your yard. Then you know you're hooked! ;-)

I just filled a 150g kiddy-pool out back for my 5 lionheads. They'll be
moving out there tomorrow.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
name are by my impersonator Roy Hauer.
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Larry Blanchard" > wrote in message
...
> Roy wrote:
>> Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
> ....
>
> Gee, Roy must be running out of invective. Now he just resends the same
> message over and over.

Anything to destroy these NGs in spite, to get back at those who he feels
left him, those who didn't obey him. This includes myself. Because he
can't be moderator here and decide who can and can't post messages, he wants
to ruin it for everyone. Remember the schoolyard bullies of years ago? He
also has a few professional coaches to guide him along in the destruction.
What a bitter angry man he is. It's a hell of a way to live.

> I'm beginning to wonder who's trolling who.

He has trolled almost every poster here, both old and new.

Anytime there's a post
> here, Roy feels compelled to respond. Seems to me he's the one biting
> the hook.

The only way to stop him from replying to everyone's message with more
invectives is to abandon the NG altogether, which is what he wants.

> And he'll certainly bite on this one :-).

Probably not, as that will make what you said TRUE, and he will look the
foolish puppet they've helped make of him.

> --
> It's turtles, all the way down

I took my slider turtle Fred to the lake last week. :*(

--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Koi-Lo]

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:37:56 -0700, Larry Blanchard
> wrote:
>><>Roy wrote:
>><>
>><>> Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
>><>....
>><>
>><>Gee, Roy must be running out of invective. Now he just resends the same
>><>message over and over.
>><>
>><>I'm beginning to wonder who's trolling who. Anytime there's a post
>><>here, Roy feels compelled to respond. Seems to me he's the one biting
>><>the hook.
>><>
>><>And he'll certainly bite on this one :-).

[Koi-Lo]

Nonone cares if yu fille dup 2000 kiddie pools.If it was not for 2 or
so of the assholes that jumped ship like a rat when the ship was
sinking youn wold not have any replies or posts in this or the other
groups to respond to CArol. Its getting lonely on usenet anymore
foryou isn;t it. Even those yu reply to never really respond back
toyou as your ony ofund by inclusion in another bygone post made by
some one else.........you loser......from New York City and now a
loser from Mt. Juliet, TN

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:21:00 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
>><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>><>
>><>"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
u...
>><>> Way I see it, he who dies with the most stuff wins!
>><>> :-)
>><>========================>
>><>Wait'll you have it so bad you start setting up tanks, half barrels, kiddy
>><>pools and ponds out in your yard. Then you know you're hooked! ;-)
>><>
>><>I just filled a 150g kiddy-pool out back for my 5 lionheads. They'll be
>><>moving out there tomorrow.

[Koi-Lo]

""Koi-Lo"" > wrote in message
...
>
> Not necessarily. YOU wewre offered a chance tobury the hatch 3 times
> by me, and me alone,

Bury what hatchet? You're the one slandering, attacking, trolling,
threatening and harassing *ME*. You've run everyone off these NGs by
attacking, slandering and impersonating them. What Hatchet do I have to
bury?

no stipulations and yet you choose to ignore the
> request,

WHAT REQUEST?
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
name are by my impersonator Roy Hauer.
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[swarvegorilla]

"Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
...
> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
> u...
>> Way I see it, he who dies with the most stuff wins!
>> :-)
> ========================>
> Wait'll you have it so bad you start setting up tanks, half barrels, kiddy
> pools and ponds out in your yard. Then you know you're hooked! ;-)
>
> I just filled a 150g kiddy-pool out back for my 5 lionheads. They'll be
> moving out there tomorrow.


No need to wait I already have a few ponds to play with.
Had to clear the backyard but yea I gets me ponding in on other peoples
ponds now.
Have a secret stash of ponds under construction, concrete trench things.
But be a while before they are good to use, when they are tho I'll be saying
goodbye to the drama's of above ground swimming pools and bloody soft liner
bottems.
Still the water in the test pond (birdbathy thing) is still ph 9.8 or so and
it's been a while.
Long process but yea in no rush...... all gonna run off one air pump and
dammed if I ain't gonna try sloped bottems with sludge collection pipes
built in.
I am getting sick of little tanks and waterchanges, need to move up up up!!!