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Grimley_Feindish
March 15th 04, 04:32 PM
Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank (6.8PH) that
may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the eggs)? I
currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.

Thanks

--
Alan

Dinky
March 16th 04, 01:34 AM
"Grimley_Feindish" > wrote in message
...
> Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank (6.8PH) that
> may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the eggs)? I
> currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Alan
>
>

Clown or Dojo loaches. Keep in mind that the clowns should be kept in groups
of 3 or more, and will eventually need to be relocated to a larger tank, as
their max size in a foot or more, though it takes years to attain this. Look
at www.loaches.com, many loaches love to snack on snails.


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Gail Futoran
March 16th 04, 02:50 PM
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> "Grimley_Feindish" > wrote in
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> > Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted
tank (6.8PH) that
> > may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones
and the eggs)? I
> > currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested
in them.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
> Clown or Dojo loaches. Keep in mind that the clowns should
be kept in groups
> of 3 or more, and will eventually need to be relocated to
a larger tank, as
> their max size in a foot or more, though it takes years to
attain this. Look
> at www.loaches.com, many loaches love to snack on snails.
>
>
> --
>
> billy
> --
> Need tech help?
> news://news.winextra.com

I have 3 skunk botia in one tank and although there are
snails present, there are very few compared to the tank with
no botia. I have 2 YoYo loaches in another tank; same
situation. They get enough food (community tanks) that they
don't need to eat all the snails, just keep them in check.
I really don't mind snails that much, just don't want
millions of them! Neither of these fish get that big (3-4"
and slender), which is why I bought them rather than the
clown loaches.

Gail

TYNK 7
March 18th 04, 05:11 PM
>ubject: Ramshorn Snails
>From: "Grimley_Feindish"
>Date: 3/15/2004 10:32 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank (6.8PH) that
>may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the eggs)? I
>currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
>
>Thanks
>
>--
>Alan

What other fish are in this tank?

Grimley_Feindish
March 19th 04, 03:40 PM
"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
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> >ubject: Ramshorn Snails
> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
> >Date: 3/15/2004 10:32 AM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank (6.8PH)
that
> >may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the eggs)? I
> >currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >--
> >Alan
>
> What other fish are in this tank?
>

Just them at the moment. I'm planning on populating it with various soft
water tetra's but am waiting or the plant life to get established first.
It's doing well at the moment with the CO2 reactor and the cory's are doing
a grand job of keeping the bottom clean (amonia and nitrites have measured 0
since it cycled about two or three weeks ago - the tank has been up for over
seven weeks now).

Tha snails don't touch the plants but as there are no predators they seem to
be getting a bit out of hand. I wouldn't mind just a few :)

--
Alan

Robert Flory
March 20th 04, 04:00 AM
"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
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> >
>
> I have 3 skunk botia in one tank and although there are
> snails present, there are very few compared to the tank with
> no botia. I have 2 YoYo loaches in another tank; same
> situation. They get enough food (community tanks) that they
> don't need to eat all the snails, just keep them in check.
> I really don't mind snails that much, just don't want
> millions of them! Neither of these fish get that big (3-4"
> and slender), which is why I bought them rather than the
> clown loaches.
>
> Gail
>
>
I have both yoyos and Angelicus in different tanks....
They cleaned hundreds out, but seem to have left a dozen or so breeding
stock in each tank except for the tank with MTS, there all the pond snails
vanished...

They prefer the tender young snails (and angel eggs). I haven't seen a
small snail in 6 months.

Bob

TYNK 7
March 20th 04, 04:54 AM
>Subject: Re: Ramshorn Snails
>From: "Grimley_Feindish"
>Date: 3/19/2004 9:40 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>
>"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
>> >ubject: Ramshorn Snails
>> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
>> >Date: 3/15/2004 10:32 AM Central Standard Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank (6.8PH)
>that
>> >may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the eggs)? I
>> >currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >--
>> >Alan
>>
>> What other fish are in this tank?
>>
>
>Just them at the moment. I'm planning on populating it with various soft
>water tetra's but am waiting or the plant life to get established first.
>It's doing well at the moment with the CO2 reactor and the cory's are doing
>a grand job of keeping the bottom clean (amonia and nitrites have measured 0
>since it cycled about two or three weeks ago - the tank has been up for over
>seven weeks now).
>
>Tha snails don't touch the plants but as there are no predators they seem to
>be getting a bit out of hand. I wouldn't mind just a few :)

Well....
You might look into the Botias ("bo-DEE-uhs"). They don't get as large as Clown
Loaches, but I'm not sure if they do as good a job on "snailing". You could
even find a buddy or pet shop that would loan you a healthy Clown Loach to do
the deed. = )
Something to ponder.

Gail Futoran
March 21st 04, 02:18 PM
"Robert Flory" > wrote in message
...

> I have both yoyos and Angelicus in different tanks....
> They cleaned hundreds out, but seem to have left a dozen
or so breeding
> stock in each tank except for the tank with MTS, there all
the pond snails
> vanished...
>
> They prefer the tender young snails (and angel eggs). I
haven't seen a
> small snail in 6 months.
>
> Bob

I like the idea of my Skunk botia & Yo Yos
keeping "breeding stock" of Ramshorn snails. :)

Gail

NetMax
March 28th 04, 02:03 AM
"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: Ramshorn Snails
> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
> >Date: 3/19/2004 9:40 AM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
> >
> >"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> >ubject: Ramshorn Snails
> >> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
> >> >Date: 3/15/2004 10:32 AM Central Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: >
> >> >
> >> >Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank
(6.8PH)
> >that
> >> >may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the
eggs)? I
> >> >currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Alan
> >>
> >> What other fish are in this tank?
> >>
> >
> >Just them at the moment. I'm planning on populating it with various
soft
> >water tetra's but am waiting or the plant life to get established
first.
> >It's doing well at the moment with the CO2 reactor and the cory's are
doing
> >a grand job of keeping the bottom clean (amonia and nitrites have
measured 0
> >since it cycled about two or three weeks ago - the tank has been up
for over
> >seven weeks now).
> >
> >Tha snails don't touch the plants but as there are no predators they
seem to
> >be getting a bit out of hand. I wouldn't mind just a few :)
>
> Well....
> You might look into the Botias ("bo-DEE-uhs"). They don't get as large
as Clown
> Loaches, but I'm not sure if they do as good a job on "snailing". You
could
> even find a buddy or pet shop that would loan you a healthy Clown Loach
to do
> the deed. = )
> Something to ponder.

I sold a customer on the idea to use Clown loaches to take care of his
snail problem, but he only bought one to try him out. He was back the
next day with a dead and very bloated Clown loach. Apparently it had
taken care of every snail in his tank, in one evening! I wouldn't have
believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. I think that fish
might have died with a smile on it's face ;~)

I'm not sure how Botias and Loaches get divided up. Here is a species
list of both:
http://www.loaches.com/species_index.html and a list of only Botia:
http://www.loaches.com/botia.html .

For example, the Clown loach is a Botia macracanthus (but it's not called
a Clown botia), while the Botia modesta is (around here) commonly called
a Red-tail botia (not Red-tail loach). It gets a bit confusing.

TYNK has an idea on the renting. I should rent plecos (until they get
too big), and Clown loaches (until the snails are gone). The only
problem is catching them to return ;~)

NetMax

TYNK 7
March 28th 04, 03:49 PM
>Subject: Re: Ramshorn Snails
>From: "NetMax"
>Date: 3/27/2004 7:03 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
>> >Subject: Re: Ramshorn Snails
>> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
>> >Date: 3/19/2004 9:40 AM Central Standard Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> >ubject: Ramshorn Snails
>> >> >From: "Grimley_Feindish"
>> >> >Date: 3/15/2004 10:32 AM Central Standard Time
>> >> >Message-id: >
>> >> >
>> >> >Can anybody recommend a suitable fish for a 33gl planted tank
>(6.8PH)
>> >that
>> >> >may help to control snails (eating the half to 2mm ones and the
>eggs)? I
>> >> >currently have 4 cory's but they're not too interested in them.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Alan
>> >>
>> >> What other fish are in this tank?
>> >>
>> >
>> >Just them at the moment. I'm planning on populating it with various
>soft
>> >water tetra's but am waiting or the plant life to get established
>first.
>> >It's doing well at the moment with the CO2 reactor and the cory's are
>doing
>> >a grand job of keeping the bottom clean (amonia and nitrites have
>measured 0
>> >since it cycled about two or three weeks ago - the tank has been up
>for over
>> >seven weeks now).
>> >
>> >Tha snails don't touch the plants but as there are no predators they
>seem to
>> >be getting a bit out of hand. I wouldn't mind just a few :)
>>
>> Well....
>> You might look into the Botias ("bo-DEE-uhs"). They don't get as large
>as Clown
>> Loaches, but I'm not sure if they do as good a job on "snailing". You
>could
>> even find a buddy or pet shop that would loan you a healthy Clown Loach
>to do
>> the deed. = )
>> Something to ponder.
>
>I sold a customer on the idea to use Clown loaches to take care of his
>snail problem, but he only bought one to try him out. He was back the
>next day with a dead and very bloated Clown loach. Apparently it had
>taken care of every snail in his tank, in one evening! I wouldn't have
>believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. I think that fish
>might have died with a smile on it's face ;~)
>
>I'm not sure how Botias and Loaches get divided up. Here is a species
>list of both:
>http://www.loaches.com/species_index.html and a list of only Botia:
>http://www.loaches.com/botia.html .
>
>For example, the Clown loach is a Botia macracanthus (but it's not called
>a Clown botia), while the Botia modesta is (around here) commonly called
>a Red-tail botia (not Red-tail loach). It gets a bit confusing.
>
>TYNK has an idea on the renting. I should rent plecos (until they get
>too big), and Clown loaches (until the snails are gone). The only
>problem is catching them to return ;~)
>
>NetMax
>
>

Oh my goodness!
I bet it did die with asmile on it's face.
I would have never thought of that happening.

Vicki S
March 28th 04, 04:18 PM
Seems I have the opposite problem in that I can't keep snails (LOL)
Between my loaches and my festivums they don't stand a chance.

Vicki