Fry size question

[Kurt]

I've got a couple of Rosey Barb fry that I discovered when I took down
a 10g community tank. They were rescued and placed in 5g tank to grow a
bit. My question is how big should they be before introducing them into
the 33g community tank with their parents? Currently on appears to be
about 3/8 inch (~8-9mm) long and the other about 1/2 (~13mm)inch in
length.

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Cheers,
Kurt

[Koi-Lo]

"Kurt" > wrote in message
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> I've got a couple of Rosey Barb fry that I discovered when I took down
> a 10g community tank. They were rescued and placed in 5g tank to grow a
> bit. My question is how big should they be before introducing them into
> the 33g community tank with their parents? Currently on appears to be
> about 3/8 inch (~8-9mm) long and the other about 1/2 (~13mm)inch in
> length.
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Don't return them until you're sure they're too large to be eaten. You know
the parent's size better than we do. :-)
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[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in
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Hard *not* to notice! Even harder not to just cut and run off into
cyber space.


>
> Don't return them until you're sure they're too large to be eaten.
> You know the parent's size better than we do. :-)
> --
>

I suppose I'll wait and grow them out some more. Am really tempted to
put at least one of the parents in with them to eat the hair algae
back.
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Cheers,
Kurt

[Koi-Lo]

"Kurt" > wrote in message
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> I suppose I'll wait and grow them out some more. Am really tempted to
> put at least one of the parents in with them to eat the hair algae
> back.
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I would definitely give the little fellas a chance to grow a bit. The algae
meanwhile is doing it's job of using pollutants in the water. Pull some out
by hand or with a clean old toothbrush (snag and wrap it around the
bristles) if it gets out of hand.
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[Gill Passman]

Kurt wrote:
> I've got a couple of Rosey Barb fry that I discovered when I took down
> a 10g community tank. They were rescued and placed in 5g tank to grow a
> bit. My question is how big should they be before introducing them into
> the 33g community tank with their parents? Currently on appears to be
> about 3/8 inch (~8-9mm) long and the other about 1/2 (~13mm)inch in
> length.
>

If they are small enough to fit in the mouths of your other fish then
don't move them....

I'm also a softy....I held off moving fish into my "great new project"
may 6 foot 130gall tank....just because I found a mystery fry....he his
now large enough not to get munched but I still don't have a clue what
he is....rainbow fish (of one type or another) is my best guess....You
have gone so far with saving them....wait a little longer if you are
unsure.....

Gill

[Kurt]

Gill Passman > wrote in
:

> If they are small enough to fit in the mouths of your other fish
> then don't move them....
>
> I'm also a softy....I held off moving fish into my "great new
> project" may 6 foot 130gall tank....just because I found a mystery
> fry....he his now large enough not to get munched but I still
> don't have a clue what he is....rainbow fish (of one type or
> another) is my best guess....You have gone so far with saving
> them....wait a little longer if you are unsure.....
>
>

I"m pretty sure that the fry are Roseys. One (the larger) has a wee
spot towards the tail. The other one may have one too, just hard to
see.

Local Buddhist monk told me that I had gained some merit for rescuing
the fry. We take ahimsa pretty serious in this house too.

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Cheers,
Kurt

[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in
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> I would definitely give the little fellas a chance to grow a bit.
> The algae meanwhile is doing it's job of using pollutants in the
> water. Pull some out by hand or with a clean old toothbrush (snag
> and wrap it around the bristles) if it gets out of hand.
>

The hair algae has to compete with the java moss that just explodes
untill I grab a couple of cups full and toss it to the goldfish. I've
used a bottle brush to rip the GA out of the tanks before. Rosey's sure
seem to love it (as adults anyhow)
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Cheers,
Kurt

[Koi-Lo]

"Kurt" > wrote in message
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> The hair algae has to compete with the java moss that just explodes
> untill I grab a couple of cups full and toss it to the goldfish. I've
> used a bottle brush to rip the GA out of the tanks before. Rosey's sure
> seem to love it (as adults anyhow)
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There must be a large amount of pollutants in this tank for there to be such
a hair algae problem. Have you considered a lot more partial water changes,
or larger changes to dilute all the "plant food" this algae is feasting on?
Vacuuming the gravel will also help remove what eventually turns to
plant/algae food.
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[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in
:

> There must be a large amount of pollutants in this tank for there
> to be such a hair algae problem. Have you considered a lot more
> partial water changes, or larger changes to dilute all the "plant
> food" this algae is feasting on? Vacuuming the gravel will also
> help remove what eventually turns to plant/algae food.
>

I've done a 20% change each week since I set this up. Algae is on a
piece of lava rock that probably is adding to the mix of stuff. Snails
have been added and possibly the snail feces is a factor? Big clump of
Java moss. Originally the 5g tank was filled with about 3 gallons of
water from community tank, then topped off with well water (softened).
It has no gravel, but I can stir up the java moss and clean out the
snail poop. Filtration is a small Whisper HOT.

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Cheers,
Kurt

[Koi-Lo]

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"Kurt" > wrote in message
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> "Koi-Lo" > wrote in
> :
>
>> There must be a large amount of pollutants in this tank for there
>> to be such a hair algae problem. Have you considered a lot more
>> partial water changes, or larger changes to dilute all the "plant
>> food" this algae is feasting on? Vacuuming the gravel will also
>> help remove what eventually turns to plant/algae food.
>>
>
> I've done a 20% change each week since I set this up.

You may need to start 50% weekly water changes.

Algae is on a
> piece of lava rock that probably is adding to the mix of stuff. Snails
> have been added and possibly the snail feces is a factor?

All feces adds to the pollutants in the water.

Big clump of
> Java moss. Originally the 5g tank was filled with about 3 gallons of
> water from community tank, then topped off with well water (softened).
> It has no gravel, but I can stir up the java moss and clean out the
> snail poop. Filtration is a small Whisper HOT.

I'm not familiar with Whisper filters. I would make larger water changes
and see if that helps. Try not to leave the lights on for over 10 hours or
so. Too much light encourages algae.
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[Mister Gardener]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:15:26 -0500, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:

>*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*
>
>"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
>> "Koi-Lo" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> There must be a large amount of pollutants in this tank for there
>>> to be such a hair algae problem. Have you considered a lot more
>>> partial water changes, or larger changes to dilute all the "plant
>>> food" this algae is feasting on? Vacuuming the gravel will also
>>> help remove what eventually turns to plant/algae food.
>>>
>>
>> I've done a 20% change each week since I set this up.
>
>You may need to start 50% weekly water changes.
>
>Algae is on a
>> piece of lava rock that probably is adding to the mix of stuff. Snails
>> have been added and possibly the snail feces is a factor?
>
>All feces adds to the pollutants in the water.
>
> Big clump of
>> Java moss. Originally the 5g tank was filled with about 3 gallons of
>> water from community tank, then topped off with well water (softened).
>> It has no gravel, but I can stir up the java moss and clean out the
>> snail poop. Filtration is a small Whisper HOT.
>
>I'm not familiar with Whisper filters. I would make larger water changes
>and see if that helps. Try not to leave the lights on for over 10 hours or
>so. Too much light encourages algae.

Just a thought - I have tons of java moss and although it is a nice
help at keeping extra nutrients from feeding algae, it also traps
anything floating in the water, including poop and uneaten food. I
wonder if it would best be removed for now so that you can really get
the tank clean.

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[Kurt]

Mister Gardener > wrote in
:

> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:15:26 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
> > wrote:
[snippage]
>>> I've done a 20% change each week since I set this up.
>>
>>You may need to start 50% weekly water changes.
>>
>>Algae is on a
>>> piece of lava rock that probably is adding to the mix of stuff.
>>> Snails have been added and possibly the snail feces is a factor?
>>
>>All feces adds to the pollutants in the water.

And as the Buddha said "Dukkah happens" as does snail feces. <EG>



>>
>> Big clump of
>>> Java moss. Originally the 5g tank was filled with about 3
>>> gallons of water from community tank, then topped off with well
>>> water (softened). It has no gravel, but I can stir up the java
>>> moss and clean out the snail poop. Filtration is a small Whisper
>>> HOT.
>>
>>I'm not familiar with Whisper filters. I would make larger water
>>changes and see if that helps. Try not to leave the lights on for
>>over 10 hours or so. Too much light encourages algae.

The tank sits in a west window with no artificial lighting. The WHisper
is not really a HOT type, it's a hang in tank. Small filter originally
bought for SWMBOs turtles when they were small. It lacked the capacity
to keep up with the turtles though.


>
> Just a thought - I have tons of java moss and although it is a
> nice help at keeping extra nutrients from feeding algae, it also
> traps anything floating in the water, including poop and uneaten
> food. I wonder if it would best be removed for now so that you can
> really get the tank clean.
>

I threw out a huge wad of the hair algae this morning. I could toss
about half of the java moss to the goldpigs who seem to like eating it.


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Cheers,
Kurt