blue gourami lost black spots

[Nikki]

I think in the last week all my fish have went crazy
my blue gourami who has two black spots normally now lost them, where? I
don't know but they are sure not on him, inplace are white faded spots, now
I been busy the last couple days but think I would notice my fish losing his
spots. He is the same fish the kissing gourami was bothering but he has been
gone a couple days now out of the tank.
any suggestions.
Nik

[Frank]

Nikki wrote,
>my blue gourami who has two black spots normally now lost them.....

Might be an age or genetic thing - I have seen blue three-spot gouramis
out grow their spots - quite common.

>inplace are white faded spots........

Something to keep an eye on for a few days - fish darken with illness,
lighten with stress. If it's stress, you don't want it to go on for a
long time. Stressed fish include the secretion of stress hormones -
secreted in large amounts, or over a long period of time, can/will also
stress the other fish within the tank. These stress hormones are called
Pheromones (hormones that affect the behavior of other
fish)............ Frank

[Nikki]

"Frank" > wrote in message
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> Nikki wrote,
>>my blue gourami who has two black spots normally now lost them.....
>
> Might be an age or genetic thing - I have seen blue three-spot gouramis
> out grow their spots - quite common.
>
>>inplace are white faded spots........
>
> Something to keep an eye on for a few days - fish darken with illness,
> lighten with stress. If it's stress, you don't want it to go on for a
> long time. Stressed fish include the secretion of stress hormones -
> secreted in large amounts, or over a long period of time, can/will also
> stress the other fish within the tank. These stress hormones are called
> Pheromones (hormones that affect the behavior of other
> fish)............ Frank
>

I just had to erase what i was writing because after reading your post i
went and looked to see if the rest of his color changed at all other then
his spots and i seen his black spots started to show....this is strange. he
does seem a lot happier with kissing fish gone........they are not as dark
as normal but they are coming back...sorry i dont know whats going on with
these fish
Nik

[MEAlston]

"Frank" > wrote in message
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> Nikki wrote,
> >my blue gourami who has two black spots normally now lost them.....
>
> Might be an age or genetic thing - I have seen blue three-spot gouramis
> out grow their spots - quite common.
>
> >inplace are white faded spots........
>
> Something to keep an eye on for a few days - fish darken with illness,
> lighten with stress. If it's stress, you don't want it to go on for a
> long time. Stressed fish include the secretion of stress hormones -
> secreted in large amounts, or over a long period of time, can/will also
> stress the other fish within the tank. These stress hormones are called
> Pheromones (hormones that affect the behavior of other
> fish)............ Frank
>
ah.."The Color of Illness"...you could make a mint selling that title
!=) -ED

[Koi-Lo]

"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
> I just had to erase what i was writing because after reading your post i
> went and looked to see if the rest of his color changed at all other then
> his spots and i seen his black spots started to show....this is strange.
> he does seem a lot happier with kissing fish gone........they are not as
> dark as normal but they are coming back...sorry i dont know whats going on
> with these fish
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Whenever you have one fish harassing another it is always better to remove
one of them. I think boredom and overcrowding cause some fish to constantly
pick on others, or on a target victim. In nature you would never have so
many fish together as we keep in the small space inside our tanks. In
nature the fish getting picked on, should there be one, would simply swim
away......
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[Frank]

Nikki wrote,
> and i seen his black spots started to show....this is strange...

>Stressed out a bit, thats all..............Frank

[Frank]

Nikki wrote,
> and i seen his black spots started to show....this is strange...

>Stressed out a bit, thats all..............Frank

[Nikki]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nikki" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I just had to erase what i was writing because after reading your post i
>> went and looked to see if the rest of his color changed at all other then
>> his spots and i seen his black spots started to show....this is strange.
>> he does seem a lot happier with kissing fish gone........they are not as
>> dark as normal but they are coming back...sorry i dont know whats going
>> on with these fish
> ====================
> *Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*
>
> Whenever you have one fish harassing another it is always better to
> remove one of them. I think boredom and overcrowding cause some fish to
> constantly pick on others, or on a target victim. In nature you would
> never have so many fish together as we keep in the small space inside our
> tanks. In nature the fish getting picked on, should there be one, would
> simply swim away......
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
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> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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>
the kissing gourami had been out of the tank a couple days when he went
spotless, but he has them back now and seems to be doing fine, he ate a lot
after the kissing fish was gone so i am thinking he may not been getting a
lot of food either. But all is well in that tank, he is back to protecting
the baby blue's (from what who knows) but he really seems to like them
little guys i guess because they look like him, unlike the mean kissing fish
Nik

[Frank]

Nikki wrote,
>he has them back now and seems to be doing fine, he ate a lot
>after the kissing fish was gone so i am thinking he may not been getting a
>lot of food either....

Glad to hear he's doing fine again. I figured it was due to stress when
I first read your post, but wasn't going to reply because you had
already fixed the trouble by moving the kissing gourami... Keep an eye
on your three spot, for him to regain his slime coat, it may take up to
a week. Untill then, he's wide open to parasites......... Frank

[Nikki]

"Frank" > wrote in message
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> Nikki wrote,
>>he has them back now and seems to be doing fine, he ate a lot
>>after the kissing fish was gone so i am thinking he may not been getting a
>>lot of food either....
>
> Glad to hear he's doing fine again. I figured it was due to stress when
> I first read your post, but wasn't going to reply because you had
> already fixed the trouble by moving the kissing gourami... Keep an eye
> on your three spot, for him to regain his slime coat, it may take up to
> a week. Untill then, he's wide open to parasites......... Frank
>

thanks for all your help frank, you might like this my mom moved... her new
landlord was talking to my children about his fish tank, he has a gourami
tank but is somewhat new to keeping fish I think, they must have told him
about our **gourami** situation, he wants Mr. kissing gourami, so the kids
run up and tell me...ugh I ask what's in his tank they say a gold dwarf
gourami ....a couple blue gourami's, I ask how big is his tank, and of
course I am asking teens they spread their arms and say about this big.... I
am half temped to push this fish off on him, but this little monster will
stress out his gouramis just as he did mine, but this guy insisted he will
be ok in his tank....humm
Nik

[Koi-Lo]

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"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
> thanks for all your help frank, you might like this my mom moved... her
> new landlord was talking to my children about his fish tank, he has a
> gourami tank but is somewhat new to keeping fish I think, they must have
> told him about our **gourami** situation, he wants Mr. kissing gourami, so
> the kids run up and tell me...ugh I ask what's in his tank they say a gold
> dwarf gourami ....a couple blue gourami's, I ask how big is his tank, and
> of course I am asking teens they spread their arms and say about this
> big.... I am half temped to push this fish off on him, but this little
> monster will stress out his gouramis just as he did mine, but this guy
> insisted he will be ok in his tank....humm
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You can always offer to take him back if he starts to harass his fish.
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[Nikki]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
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> *Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*
>
> "Nikki" > wrote in message
> ...
>> thanks for all your help frank, you might like this my mom moved... her
>> new landlord was talking to my children about his fish tank, he has a
>> gourami tank but is somewhat new to keeping fish I think, they must have
>> told him about our **gourami** situation, he wants Mr. kissing gourami,
>> so the kids run up and tell me...ugh I ask what's in his tank they say a
>> gold dwarf gourami ....a couple blue gourami's, I ask how big is his
>> tank, and of course I am asking teens they spread their arms and say
>> about this big.... I am half temped to push this fish off on him, but
>> this little monster will stress out his gouramis just as he did mine, but
>> this guy insisted he will be ok in his tank....humm
> =====================
> You can always offer to take him back if he starts to harass his fish.
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
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Not a big "if".... i know this little sh*t will be mean, my luck i'll end up
having to replace the guys fish because i feel bad, i am pretty sure they
said he has a gold dwarf gourami also which would be small i guess so thats
not good, on the other hand if it works out ...the guy is a cop, i'll have a
friend.. Mr.kissing fish is in a bucket at the moment so i might run him up
and give it a shot....i ended up needing the extra 10g.... i busted one of
the betta tanks, ugh
Nik

[Koi-Lo]

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"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
> Not a big "if".... i know this little sh*t will be mean, my luck i'll end
> up having to replace the guys fish because i feel bad, i am pretty sure
> they said he has a gold dwarf gourami also which would be small i guess so
> thats not good, on the other hand if it works out ...the guy is a cop,
> i'll have a friend.. Mr.kissing fish is in a bucket at the moment so i
> might run him up and give it a shot....i ended up needing the extra
> 10g.... i busted one of the betta tanks, ugh
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Let me know how what happens with this deal. I hope he keeps the fish!
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