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-ED
May 1st 06, 05:02 AM
Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon and I
get mixed reviews on their listings.
Thanx in advance...-ED

Nikki
May 1st 06, 01:51 PM
"-ED" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon and
> I
> get mixed reviews on their listings.
> Thanx in advance...-ED
>
>
I am never one to tell someone not to read books, I had to read all the
Harry potter books in a matter of 2 weeks and I think there was six of them,
and I have read anything ann rice has wrote. But I bet anything in a good
betta book you can find on the net because there is so much wrote about
them. I am sure people will disagree with me, but I got a couple betta
books that I have only opened to look at the pics because everything else
.....I had already knew from reading it on the net, or asking someone on
here.
Nik

-ED
May 1st 06, 03:15 PM
"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
>
> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon
and
> > I
> > get mixed reviews on their listings.
> > Thanx in advance...-ED
> >
> >
> I am never one to tell someone not to read books, I had to read all the
> Harry potter books in a matter of 2 weeks and I think there was six of
them,
> and I have read anything ann rice has wrote. But I bet anything in a good
> betta book you can find on the net because there is so much wrote about
> them. I am sure people will disagree with me, but I got a couple betta
> books that I have only opened to look at the pics because everything else
> ....I had already knew from reading it on the net, or asking someone on
> here.
> Nik
>
>
Thanks so much for that Nikki...=) -ED

Koi-Lo
May 1st 06, 03:59 PM
*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon and
> I
> get mixed reviews on their listings.
> Thanx in advance...-ED
=====================
Like the Angel information you seek - just go to Google or any search engine
and type the name of the fish you want to learn about. Loads of webpages
will come up that you can spend many happy hours reading. I always loved
books but now depend mostly on the Internet for of my information - and
loving it.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on
the pond and aquaria groups.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

IDzine01
May 2nd 06, 01:51 AM
I don't think there is a definitively correct betta book. I've read
good ones but have found minor discrepancies that I don't fully agree
with. A lot of these things are opinion based so you kind of have to
use your own judgment. The Barron's Betta Owners Manual is a great
overview of all types of bettas and reads like a manual. It's good if
you are considering breeding.

-ED
May 2nd 06, 02:20 AM
"IDzine01" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I don't think there is a definitively correct betta book. I've read
> good ones but have found minor discrepancies that I don't fully agree
> with. A lot of these things are opinion based so you kind of have to
> use your own judgment. The Barron's Betta Owners Manual is a great
> overview of all types of bettas and reads like a manual. It's good if
> you are considering breeding.
>
Thanks for the reply....-ED

Mister Gardener
May 2nd 06, 11:42 AM
On 1 May 2006 17:51:22 -0700, "IDzine01" >
wrote:

>I don't think there is a definitively correct betta book. I've read
>good ones but have found minor discrepancies that I don't fully agree
>with. A lot of these things are opinion based so you kind of have to
>use your own judgment. The Barron's Betta Owners Manual is a great
>overview of all types of bettas and reads like a manual. It's good if
>you are considering breeding.

***Note: There are more than one Koi Lo's on the NG, but only one Roy.

I've found everything I've read from Barron's to be worth the money.
Their availability seems to be spotty, but they are among the first I
grab off the shelf for a good general background on certain types of
fish, plants, whatever. Not overly technical, but not dumbed down,
either.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

-ED
May 2nd 06, 12:48 PM
"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On 1 May 2006 17:51:22 -0700, "IDzine01" >
> wrote:
>
> >I don't think there is a definitively correct betta book. I've read
> >good ones but have found minor discrepancies that I don't fully agree
> >with. A lot of these things are opinion based so you kind of have to
> >use your own judgment. The Barron's Betta Owners Manual is a great
> >overview of all types of bettas and reads like a manual. It's good if
> >you are considering breeding.
>
> ***Note: There are more than one Koi Lo's on the NG, but only one Roy.
>
> I've found everything I've read from Barron's to be worth the money.
> Their availability seems to be spotty, but they are among the first I
> grab off the shelf for a good general background on certain types of
> fish, plants, whatever. Not overly technical, but not dumbed down,
> either.
>

You read my mind.....thanks,-ED

Mister Gardener
May 2nd 06, 01:37 PM
On Tue, 02 May 2006 11:48:21 GMT, "-ED" > wrote:

>
>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>> On 1 May 2006 17:51:22 -0700, "IDzine01" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I don't think there is a definitively correct betta book. I've read
>> >good ones but have found minor discrepancies that I don't fully agree
>> >with. A lot of these things are opinion based so you kind of have to
>> >use your own judgment. The Barron's Betta Owners Manual is a great
>> >overview of all types of bettas and reads like a manual. It's good if
>> >you are considering breeding.
>>
>> ***Note: There are more than one Koi Lo's on the NG, but only one Roy.
>>
>> I've found everything I've read from Barron's to be worth the money.
>> Their availability seems to be spotty, but they are among the first I
>> grab off the shelf for a good general background on certain types of
>> fish, plants, whatever. Not overly technical, but not dumbed down,
>> either.
>>
>
>You read my mind.....thanks,-ED
>
Yeah, it's kind of spooky in there. You have a couple of corners than
could really use a good dusting.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

-ED
May 6th 06, 06:35 PM
> > "-ED" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon
and
> > > I
> > > get mixed reviews on their listings.
> > > Thanx in advance...-ED
>
> just go to Google or any search engine
> > and type the name of the fish you want to learn about. Loads of
webpages
> > will come up that you can spend many happy hours reading.
>
> Here's the problem with getting tons of web pages to sort through.
> Anyone can make a web page.
> There's too much incorrect info out there on Bettas as it is.
> A person who doesn't know the correct info isn't going to know the
> difference.
> Your best bet is to stick with this newgroup.
> IDzine has great Betta knowledge (my self included), and I'm also a
> (semi) retired breeder.
> One of the most commonly recommended sites (Bettatalk.com) has some
> things that just aren't exaclty 100% true. However, most of her info is
> great.
>
> Here's your first lesson....(goofy snicker)
> Are you pronouncing Betta properly?
> It's "Bet-uh" (not the commonly - incorrect way of saying it
> "Bay-tuh").
> People with often give ya the old "Toe-maytoe" - "Tah mah- toe" thing,
> but that doesn't apply here. To be "Bay-tuh" it would need a spelling
> change to "beta".
>
> Males do not prefer smaller places. They also benefit from filtration,
> as any fish will and require warm water of 78*f to 80*f.
>
> Were you looking for any specifics or just general ed on them?
> Ask away! They're my favorite subject, lol.
>
General and specific is always a good way to go.....I saw the prices for
advice at BettaTalk.com....pass. I'm treating my betta pair like other
tropical fishes...They are in a well planted 55gal...mostly silk plants with
some live asparagus and philadendrum. I just added 10 zebra danios and a
red-tailed black shark. That's all that will go in this tank. I do weekly
water changes...provide a variety of foods..the tank appears to have
finished its cycle..The inhabitants look healthy and are full of
personality. I didn't anticipate the danios being of such a 'swift' nature;
as such they have become aware of the feeding area of the tank (opposite the
filter). I'm going to attempt to train the danios towards the filter
end...their ability to dart and eat on the run is impressive, to say the
least. And trying to get food down for the shark is another matter. Their
diet consists of TetraMin Granules, Flake..with English Peas and Tubifex on
occasion (roughly meaning weekly).
My typing always gets ahead of my train of thought. I pronounce it
Betta...but my spelling could prove otherwise.
Thanks for the help, as always...-ED

Nikki
May 6th 06, 07:33 PM
"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>> > "-ED" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at
>> > > amazon
> and

> I just added 10 zebra danios and a
> red-tailed black shark. That's all that will go in this tank

Be careful and watchful with adding any new fish with betta's, for nipping
and fighting, I have seen people put them with fancy guppies and they got
along fine, and others who ended up with dead guppies, you will see lists of
fish that are fine with betta's on the net and I have found that it just
depends on the fish, there is no *definite* if fish will get along or fight,
I tend to just watch and see.
Most people will tell you that you cant keep a male and female together
(unless spawning) but you have and they get along, I have a male betta who
loves being with the females and I never seen him as much as chase one *hell
he wont even spawn with one*
Tynk is right about web pages, there is so much info out there, some wrote
from people who know nothing more then we do, and sometime info is wrong,
however if you use common sense as to what is wrote you will find good info
out there. I have read bettatalk also, but have found some of her info is
not correct (not correct to me, meaning I have had different experiences
then her) She has wrote never put a male /female together, and again some
times you can and some times you cant...I think she has wrote never use
table salt and while I don't use it just because.. I use aquarium salt or
kosher salt, something with no additives. But people who keep bettas will
tell you their experiences and usually think they are right.
and just as Tynk said if you have questions just ask then you have the
benefit of following up if you have more questions, people who keep betta's
love talking about them, I drive people crazy with mine.
Nik

Tynk
May 7th 06, 02:07 PM
-ED wrote:
> > > "-ED" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Can anyone recommend an authorative Betta book?..I've looked at amazon
> and
> > > > I
> > > > get mixed reviews on their listings.
> > > > Thanx in advance...-ED
> >
> > just go to Google or any search engine
> > > and type the name of the fish you want to learn about. Loads of
> webpages
> > > will come up that you can spend many happy hours reading.
> >
> > Here's the problem with getting tons of web pages to sort through.
> > Anyone can make a web page.
> > There's too much incorrect info out there on Bettas as it is.
> > A person who doesn't know the correct info isn't going to know the
> > difference.
> > Your best bet is to stick with this newgroup.
> > IDzine has great Betta knowledge (my self included), and I'm also a
> > (semi) retired breeder.
> > One of the most commonly recommended sites (Bettatalk.com) has some
> > things that just aren't exaclty 100% true. However, most of her info is
> > great.
> >
> > Here's your first lesson....(goofy snicker)
> > Are you pronouncing Betta properly?
> > It's "Bet-uh" (not the commonly - incorrect way of saying it
> > "Bay-tuh").
> > People with often give ya the old "Toe-maytoe" - "Tah mah- toe" thing,
> > but that doesn't apply here. To be "Bay-tuh" it would need a spelling
> > change to "beta".
> >
> > Males do not prefer smaller places. They also benefit from filtration,
> > as any fish will and require warm water of 78*f to 80*f.
> >
> > Were you looking for any specifics or just general ed on them?
> > Ask away! They're my favorite subject, lol.
> >
> General and specific is always a good way to go.....I saw the prices for
> advice at BettaTalk.com....pass. I'm treating my betta pair like other
> tropical fishes...They are in a well planted 55gal...mostly silk plants with
> some live asparagus and philadendrum. I just added 10 zebra danios and a
> red-tailed black shark. That's all that will go in this tank. I do weekly
> water changes...provide a variety of foods..the tank appears to have
> finished its cycle..The inhabitants look healthy and are full of
> personality. I didn't anticipate the danios being of such a 'swift' nature;
> as such they have become aware of the feeding area of the tank (opposite the
> filter). I'm going to attempt to train the danios towards the filter
> end...their ability to dart and eat on the run is impressive, to say the
> least. And trying to get food down for the shark is another matter. Their
> diet consists of TetraMin Granules, Flake..with English Peas and Tubifex on
> occasion (roughly meaning weekly).
> My typing always gets ahead of my train of thought. I pronounce it
> Betta...but my spelling could prove otherwise.
> Thanks for the help, as always...-ED

Hi ya Ed.
Things sounds great for your 55g!
I love it when I hear of others putting Bettas into large tanks.
People have no idea how fast these fish can swim. = )
Everytime I hear "slow moving fish" and Betta in the same sentence, I
snicker.
I would add either frozen Brine Shrimp or Bloodworms to their diet.
If you can find the Hikari brand, get those. It's the best and least
messy.
I won't buy anything else. They go without if the shops out.
That's how much I prefer it, hehe.
Those Danios are fast moving little buggers, aren't they. = O
It's are good set up for them too, with the long swimming surface area.
They can really get moving for sure.
As for you feeding issues....no problems man. lol
All you need to do is feed a little at the surface for the Danios to
dash about with, and under the surface, release dry foods that don't
float so that the slower fish have a better chance to get some, or when
feeding frozen or live foods, use a (not used) medicine dropper, like
for liquid meds at the pharmacy, or even an eye dropper and release the
food near the fish, under the surface as well.
In no time your Bettas and RT Shark will learn that your hand or the
dropper = food and will go right to it before you can even get the food
out.
You can also control how much gets released, where it gets released,
and how much each fish gets to eat.
That right there is the best thing about feeding with a dropper. I know
the shy or slow fish are getting a hearty meal too.
I would (after quarantining) add 2 more female Bettas to the tank.
Just a pair of them doesn't always work so well.
How are they behaving? It's not always the males that are doing the
chasing or nipping. The females can be just as fiesty.