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Mister Gardener

May 8th 06, 01:51 PM

On Sun, 07 May 2006 23:34:02 GMT, -ED > wrote:

>Mister Gardener wrote:
>> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
>> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>>
>I'm missing part of this thread...could anyone jump in and re-mention
>this software.......-ED

There is no more to this message. I have no aquarium software, I see a
couple on line, I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations. I
know it should be a simple spreadsheet program, but I have forgotten
everything I once knew about creating spreadsheets.

-- Mister Gardener
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netDenizen

May 8th 06, 02:07 PM

I
> know it should be a simple spreadsheet program...

On a recent trip I finally found a use for the low-end Sony Clie "Palm"
- type handheld I've had for years. The unit came with software called
"Sheets to Go" that allows you to make Microsoft Excel spreadsheets on
your computer, transfer them to the handheld, edit them there and
transfer back to the computer.

For the trip I made spreadsheets for gas and accomodation and it worked
fine! With your many tanks you might have a spreadsheet or spreadsheet
page of simple notations for each tank that you fill in daily, weekly...

After doing the rounds of your aquariums you could transfer the notes to
your main computer - at newsgroup time. Could be fun :) .

Adam

May 8th 06, 02:07 PM

I downloaded a trial of Aquarix 4. It seems like a pretty comprehensive
program. It has a lot of things in it that I wouldn't use on my little
tanks. If I were motivated to set up the scheduling reminders and do
regular testing, it would be much more useful for me. I would give it a
look though. Personally, I don't have the discipline for these types of
things. If I had a dollar for every daytimer, planner or calander I
have tried to use I would be a rich man. (PS... if anyone wants
partially used planners from years gone by, I may have some kicking
around. The days of the week may match the days of the month again
someday!)

Mister Gardener

May 8th 06, 02:14 PM

On 8 May 2006 06:07:39 -0700, "Adam" >
wrote:

>I downloaded a trial of Aquarix 4. It seems like a pretty comprehensive
>program. It has a lot of things in it that I wouldn't use on my little
>tanks. If I were motivated to set up the scheduling reminders and do
>regular testing, it would be much more useful for me. I would give it a
>look though. Personally, I don't have the discipline for these types of
>things. If I had a dollar for every daytimer, planner or calander I
>have tried to use I would be a rich man. (PS... if anyone wants
>partially used planners from years gone by, I may have some kicking
>around. The days of the week may match the days of the month again
>someday!)

Same here. I've tried numerous garden programs, and each year I find
myself returning to the spiral bound notebook and mechanical pencil.
Which is how I am currently tracking my aquariums. Paper and pencil
are very old tools, but sometimes they are the best for the job.

-- Mister Gardener
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-ED

May 8th 06, 03:47 PM

On Mon, 08 May 2006 08:07:24 -0500, netDenizen > wrote:

> I
>> know it should be a simple spreadsheet program...
>
> On a recent trip I finally found a use for the low-end Sony Clie "Palm"
> - type handheld I've had for years. The unit came with software called
> "Sheets to Go" that allows you to make Microsoft Excel spreadsheets on
> your computer, transfer them to the handheld, edit them there and
> transfer back to the computer.
>
> For the trip I made spreadsheets for gas and accomodation and it worked
> fine! With your many tanks you might have a spreadsheet or spreadsheet
> page of simple notations for each tank that you fill in daily, weekly....
>
> After doing the rounds of your aquariums you could transfer the notes to
> your main computer - at newsgroup time. Could be fun :) .

Then again..It would turn out to be another job you'd have to do...:-\
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Frederick B. Henry Jr.

May 8th 06, 09:49 PM

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On 2006-05-07, Mister Gardener > wrote:
> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me

I'm an utter neophyte aquarist, but the first thing I looked for after
getting my beginner's tank was some sort of logging software. I am a
die-hard open source/linux person, so, I searched the Debian archives
and freshmeat.net, with no luck.

I am seriously thinking of coding an open source application that uses a
postgresql database backend and has a nice GTK or qt user interface.
There is definitely a niche to be filled.

It would be interesting to hear from expert aquarists what features
would be most useful. I was thinking an interface for water chemistry,
and a "diary" sort of tab. One could have a different "tracker" for
each aquarium. And of course a graphing feature.

I saw Excel mentioned. You could certainly work with that but I think a
finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
far better and "most excellent." Only problem for me is being able to
share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.

Cheers,

Fred

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Mister Gardener

May 8th 06, 10:19 PM

On Mon, 08 May 2006 20:49:39 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
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>On 2006-05-07, Mister Gardener > wrote:
>> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
>> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>
>I'm an utter neophyte aquarist, but the first thing I looked for after
>getting my beginner's tank was some sort of logging software. I am a
>die-hard open source/linux person, so, I searched the Debian archives
>and freshmeat.net, with no luck.
>
>I am seriously thinking of coding an open source application that uses a
>postgresql database backend and has a nice GTK or qt user interface.
>There is definitely a niche to be filled.
>
>It would be interesting to hear from expert aquarists what features
>would be most useful. I was thinking an interface for water chemistry,
>and a "diary" sort of tab. One could have a different "tracker" for
>each aquarium. And of course a graphing feature.
>
>I saw Excel mentioned. You could certainly work with that but I think a
>finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
>far better and "most excellent." Only problem for me is being able to
>share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fred
>
Sounds like fun. There are bound to be a few open source aquarists
stumbling around over there. Gotta keep us windozers happy.

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Altum

May 8th 06, 10:24 PM

Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote:
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> On 2006-05-07, Mister Gardener > wrote:
>> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
>> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>
> I'm an utter neophyte aquarist, but the first thing I looked for after
> getting my beginner's tank was some sort of logging software. I am a
> die-hard open source/linux person, so, I searched the Debian archives
> and freshmeat.net, with no luck.
>
> I am seriously thinking of coding an open source application that uses a
> postgresql database backend and has a nice GTK or qt user interface.
> There is definitely a niche to be filled.
>
> It would be interesting to hear from expert aquarists what features
> would be most useful. I was thinking an interface for water chemistry,
> and a "diary" sort of tab. One could have a different "tracker" for
> each aquarium. And of course a graphing feature.
>
> I saw Excel mentioned. You could certainly work with that but I think a
> finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
> far better and "most excellent." Only problem for me is being able to
> share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.

What about building something in Open Office? I'm very impressed with
its stability and flexibility these days and have completely switched
form M$ Office.

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Frederick B. Henry Jr.

May 8th 06, 10:52 PM

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On 2006-05-08, Altum > wrote:
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>> On 2006-05-07, Mister Gardener > wrote:
>>> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
>>> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>>>
>>> -- Mister Gardener
>>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>>
>> I'm an utter neophyte aquarist, but the first thing I looked for after
>> getting my beginner's tank was some sort of logging software. I am a
>> die-hard open source/linux person, so, I searched the Debian archives
>> and freshmeat.net, with no luck.
>>
>> I am seriously thinking of coding an open source application that uses a
>> postgresql database backend and has a nice GTK or qt user interface.
>> There is definitely a niche to be filled.
>>
>> I saw Excel mentioned. You could certainly work with that but I think a
>> finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
>> far better and "most excellent." Only problem for me is being able to
>> share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.
>
> What about building something in Open Office? I'm very impressed with
> its stability and flexibility these days and have completely switched
> form M$ Office.

The OpenOffice postgresql support is just fine, so that would work. Not
sure about graphing, etc., but it is a good suggestion. I'll look into
it. Glad you are using OO.org too :-)

Cheers,

Fred

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Ben

May 9th 06, 01:32 AM

I just saw this in some newsgroup a few weeks ago, downloaded it, have
yet had the chance to play with it really (about to do that now). It
is called PyAcqua, it is an Italian open source project.

http://tinyurl.com/jdarl

Three helpful hints-
1. If your running XP, make sure you download the XP GUI version.
2. When you first run the program, it will run in Italian. Check the
box, click next, change the language to English, then re-start the
program.
3. It will not make a shortcut automatically, pay attention to where
it installs to.

Ben

Mister Gardener wrote:
> Seems like a natural, tracking aquarium info on my computer. Has
> anyone got any favorite software they are using?
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me

Ben

May 9th 06, 01:33 AM

Ben

May 9th 06, 01:55 AM

Ok, just played around with it for a while, and here are some of my
thoughts.
1. The English set for the program is not very user friendly.
2. The database types and ideas are good, but could be a bit more user
friendly (see number one).
3. At least in my install, the calculators don't work.

Looking at this though, next week once finals are over, I may program
something in Excel or more likely Access, possibly using some ideas I
have garnered from the program, and from some ideas of mine.

Ben

Ben wrote:
> I just saw this in some newsgroup a few weeks ago, downloaded it, have
> yet had the chance to play with it really (about to do that now). It
> is called PyAcqua, it is an Italian open source project.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/jdarl
>
> Three helpful hints-
> 1. If your running XP, make sure you download the XP GUI version.
> 2. When you first run the program, it will run in Italian. Check the
> box, click next, change the language to English, then re-start the
> program.
> 3. It will not make a shortcut automatically, pay attention to where
> it installs to.
>
> Ben

Larry Blanchard

May 9th 06, 01:56 AM

Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote:

> I saw Excel mentioned.**You*could*certainly*work*with*that*but *I*think
> a finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
> far better and "most excellent."**Only*problem*for*me*is*being*able*to
> share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.
>
I know it's old hat, but Tcl/Tk would probably do wha you want and it
does run under Windoze as well as unixes.

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Mister Gardener

May 9th 06, 01:16 PM

On 8 May 2006 17:32:15 -0700, "Ben" > wrote:

>I just saw this in some newsgroup a few weeks ago, downloaded it, have
>yet had the chance to play with it really (about to do that now). It
>is called PyAcqua, it is an Italian open source project.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/jdarl
>
>Three helpful hints-
>1. If your running XP, make sure you download the XP GUI version.
>2. When you first run the program, it will run in Italian. Check the
>box, click next, change the language to English, then re-start the
>program.
>3. It will not make a shortcut automatically, pay attention to where
>it installs to.

I can't find a box to check to switch to English. I'll have to spend
more time at the download site, maybe I missed something.
Thanks.

-- Mister Gardener
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-ED

May 9th 06, 01:43 PM

"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On 8 May 2006 17:32:15 -0700, "Ben" > wrote:
>
> >I just saw this in some newsgroup a few weeks ago, downloaded it, have
> >yet had the chance to play with it really (about to do that now). It
> >is called PyAcqua, it is an Italian open source project.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/jdarl
> >
> >Three helpful hints-
> >1. If your running XP, make sure you download the XP GUI version.
> >2. When you first run the program, it will run in Italian. Check the
> >box, click next, change the language to English, then re-start the
> >program.
> >3. It will not make a shortcut automatically, pay attention to where
> >it installs to.
>
> I can't find a box to check to switch to English. I'll have to spend
> more time at the download site, maybe I missed something.
> Thanks.
I'd scan it with a good trojan hunter...I remember that program...something
raised a flag about it. Just asking for caution, is all.

Adam

May 9th 06, 02:33 PM

I couldn't get it to run at all. Not surprisngly mind you. I have a
very fragile machine at home and a very "not-mine" machine at work. If
I had only put the start money from tanks into a computer... I would
have no fish.

Something that may be useful is a reminder for water changes, ferts
etc. To go even further... put in your plant species, tank size,
lighting etc. and the program gives you a reccomended dosing schedule.

EVEN further would be to integrate it with probes that some aquarists
use. I want a probe for some reason, I don't need one at all, I think I
just want to own a probe.

Frederick B. Henry Jr.

May 9th 06, 04:31 PM

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On 2006-05-09, Larry Blanchard > wrote:
> Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote:
>
>> I saw Excel mentioned.**You*could*certainly*work*with*that*but *I*think
>> a finely-tuned application, meant solely for aquarists, would be
>> far better and "most excellent."**Only*problem*for*me*is*being*able*to
>> share it with Windows users---so I would need collaborators.
>>
> I know it's old hat, but Tcl/Tk would probably do wha you want and it
> does run under Windoze as well as unixes.
>

This is actually a fantastic suggestion, especially since I spent a good
deal of time about two years ago getting to know Tcl/Tk, and I certainly
know it better than GTK, and far better than qt. Thanks!

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Frederick B. Henry Jr.

May 9th 06, 04:32 PM

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On 2006-05-09, Ben > wrote:
> Ok, just played around with it for a while, and here are some of my
> thoughts.
> 1. The English set for the program is not very user friendly.
> 2. The database types and ideas are good, but could be a bit more user
> friendly (see number one).
> 3. At least in my install, the calculators don't work.
>
> Looking at this though, next week once finals are over, I may program
> something in Excel or more likely Access, possibly using some ideas I
> have garnered from the program, and from some ideas of mine.
>
> Ben
>
>
> Ben wrote:
>> I just saw this in some newsgroup a few weeks ago, downloaded it, have
>> yet had the chance to play with it really (about to do that now). It
>> is called PyAcqua, it is an Italian open source project.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/jdarl
>>
>> Three helpful hints-
>> 1. If your running XP, make sure you download the XP GUI version.
>> 2. When you first run the program, it will run in Italian. Check the
>> box, click next, change the language to English, then re-start the
>> program.
>> 3. It will not make a shortcut automatically, pay attention to where
>> it installs to.
>>
>> Ben
>

Hmm, written in Python. I've been long-intending to learn that.
Meanwhile I think I'll play with it as well and get some ideas.

Please keep the group posted with progress on your project, if you go
ahead with it.

If I manage any progress I will certainly chime in ;)

Cheers,

Fred

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Frederick B. Henry Jr.

May 9th 06, 05:13 PM

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On 2006-05-09, Larry Blanchard > wrote:
> Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote:
>
>>> I know it's old hat, but Tcl/Tk would probably do wha you want and it
>>> does run under Windoze as well as unixes.
>>>
>>
>> This is actually a fantastic suggestion, especially since I spent a
>> good deal of time about two years ago getting to know Tcl/Tk, and I
>> certainly know it better than GTK, and far better than qt.**Thanks!
>
> You probably know it a lot better than me. I retired several years ago
> and my Linux box is almost exclusively used for Internet/Usenet access
> and a few home spreadsheet applications.
>
> A question in return. Have you found any Xwindows newsreader (or email
> reader for that matter) that allows filtering on numeric addresses in
> the "received by" chain? Such as "trash all mail with 123.45.67.89" in
> the chain.
>

OT I know, but I will be brief!

Slrn, an s-lang (similar to ncurses) console newsreader has great
scoring/killfiling. You can score on any header, but the docs recommend
for efficiency that you try to stick to Subject, From, Xref, References,
and Lines, for "efficiency." You can score/kill on any header, however.

I score on NNTP-Posting-Host frequently to weed out known trolls and
other malfeasants.

It runs under Windows, *nix, and Mac.

I'm pretty certain that gnus and trn, and, if you are into a gui like
FreeAgent, Pan, will do similar filtering.

The slrn score-file format is really simple. Google "slrn scoring" or
see the docs at http://www.slrn.org

As for email: procmail is the greatest mail filtering app I can think
of. I read mail with mutt and sometimes thunderbird (which is on my
wife's mac). Procmail can do almost anything to your mail. It can be
used in Windows with the help of cygwin.

http://www.procmail.org
http://www.cygwin.com

Cheers,

Fred
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Larry Blanchard

May 9th 06, 05:48 PM

Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote:

>> I know it's old hat, but Tcl/Tk would probably do wha you want and it
>> does run under Windoze as well as unixes.
>>
>
> This is actually a fantastic suggestion, especially since I spent a
> good deal of time about two years ago getting to know Tcl/Tk, and I
> certainly know it better than GTK, and far better than qt.**Thanks!

You probably know it a lot better than me. I retired several years ago
and my Linux box is almost exclusively used for Internet/Usenet access
and a few home spreadsheet applications.

A question in return. Have you found any Xwindows newsreader (or email
reader for that matter) that allows filtering on numeric addresses in
the "received by" chain? Such as "trash all mail with 123.45.67.89" in
the chain.

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Mister Gardener

May 9th 06, 05:56 PM

On 9 May 2006 06:33:02 -0700, "Adam" >
wrote:

>I couldn't get it to run at all. Not surprisngly mind you. I have a
>very fragile machine at home and a very "not-mine" machine at work. If
>I had only put the start money from tanks into a computer... I would
>have no fish.
>
>Something that may be useful is a reminder for water changes, ferts
>etc. To go even further... put in your plant species, tank size,
>lighting etc. and the program gives you a reccomended dosing schedule.
>
>EVEN further would be to integrate it with probes that some aquarists
>use. I want a probe for some reason, I don't need one at all, I think I
>just want to own a probe.

Sounds like a guy thing. Or a girl with a probe envy thing.

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Ben

May 9th 06, 07:15 PM

Go to the menu, the second pull down one, labelled Impostazioni. From
there, select the option Lingua (second to last). Select Inglese,
click OK, exit the program, and re-launch.

Ben

Mister Gardener wrote:

>
> I can't find a box to check to switch to English. I'll have to spend
> more time at the download site, maybe I missed something.
> Thanks.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me

Mister Gardener

May 9th 06, 09:37 PM

On 9 May 2006 11:15:07 -0700, "Ben" > wrote:

>Go to the menu, the second pull down one, labelled Impostazioni. From
>there, select the option Lingua (second to last). Select Inglese,
>click OK, exit the program, and re-launch.
>
>Ben
>
>
>Mister Gardener wrote:
>
>>
>> I can't find a box to check to switch to English. I'll have to spend
>> more time at the download site, maybe I missed something.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me

Inglesis is not an option on that pulldown. Or any pulldown. Maybe I
need a newer version.

-- Mister Gardener
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Koi-Lo

May 9th 06, 10:27 PM

"Adam" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I couldn't get it to run at all. Not surprisngly mind you. I have a
> very fragile machine at home and a very "not-mine" machine at work. If
> I had only put the start money from tanks into a computer... I would
> have no fish.
================
My husband just bought a brand new PC with all the bells and whistles he
desired for under $700. That's with a 200G HD and a 3+ GHz CPU........ The
prices have come down tremendously.
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TCC Taking Care of Carol

May 12th 06, 03:11 PM

Well if there wa snot so many assholes in this and a few other forums
I now exactly where there is a fantastic program online to manage
aquariums, pnds etc.....and its easy to customize to suit ones needs,
all free for the download...........Its fantastic program too........I
have used it for years.........

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Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....
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CarolsNIghtmare

May 12th 06, 04:56 PM

On Fri, 12 May 2006 14:11:22 GMT, (TCC Taking
Care of Carol) wrote:
>><>Well if there wa snot so many assholes in this and a few other forums
>><>I now exactly where there is a fantastic program online to manage
>><>aquariums, pnds etc.....and its easy to customize to suit ones needs,
>><>all free for the download...........Its fantastic program too........I
>><>have used it for years.........
>><>
>><>==============================================
>><>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>><>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>><>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>><>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>><>only worth $1.....
>><>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>4.255.241.103

==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....
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John Allen

May 12th 06, 06:12 PM

Aquarix is a good one.

"CarolsNIghtmare" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 May 2006 14:11:22 GMT, (TCC Taking
> Care of Carol) wrote:
>>><>Well if there wa snot so many assholes in this and a few other forums
>>><>I now exactly where there is a fantastic program online to manage
>>><>aquariums, pnds etc.....and its easy to customize to suit ones needs,
>>><>all free for the download...........Its fantastic program too........I
>>><>have used it for years.........
>>><>
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>>><>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>>><>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>>><>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>>><>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>>><>only worth $1.....
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> Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
> "The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
> given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
> my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
> only worth $1.....
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