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TheBassMan
May 10th 06, 11:58 PM
Hey there,

I'm looking to interview a tropical fish expert for a 45-60 minute
session.

This person "must" be a qualified expert, preferrably with some decent
credentials behind him/her...
-ie. worked at pet store, degree in fishkeeping, many years
experience.. etc.

I have gathered up a list of about 40 questions or so that people have
actually asked, and
during the interview these questions will need to be answered.

I will supply you with all the questions that are going to be asked
beforehand, so
you can prepare etc...

Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
time.

If you have the knowledge, this should be quick and easy.

Also, it is a low-key project, no need to sound professional... just
let your wisdom shine!

I look forward to hearing from any qualified persons.

If you want to email me, it's:

Thanks,
Cory Friedman

Tedd Jacobs
May 11th 06, 04:38 AM
"TheBassMan" wrote...
[...]
> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
> time.

methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)

[...]

Nikki
May 11th 06, 01:58 PM
"Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "TheBassMan" wrote...
> [...]
>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>> time.
>
> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>
> [...]
>
this person posts on other forums also

Mister Gardener
May 11th 06, 02:15 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 08:58:58 -0400, "Nikki"
> wrote:

>
>"Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>> [...]
>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>> time.
>>
>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>
>> [...]
>>
>this person posts on other forums also
>
I think Nikki should volunteer - she could use the bucks after her
spending spree at the Odd fish place. And she could answer each
question with very long questions.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

Altum
May 11th 06, 06:45 PM
Nikki wrote:
> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>> [...]
>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>> time.
>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>
>> [...]
>>
> this person posts on other forums also
>
>
Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.

--
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-ED
May 11th 06, 07:04 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
wrote:

> Nikki wrote:
>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>> [...]
>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>> time.
>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>> this person posts on other forums also
> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>
Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
what?..
OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting security
issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to turn off in
WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all are Raw Sockets,
File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes modems/routers with
UPnP..turn them off)



--
Thanks-ED

netDenizen
May 11th 06, 07:23 PM
-ED wrote:

> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to
> turn off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all
> are Raw Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes
> modems/routers with UPnP..turn them off)
>
>
>

If you have an extra computer you could try Linux. Or buy a "surplus"
computer cheap and try Linux there. You may like Linux, and it's more
secure than the average Windows setup for a lot of reasons, mainly
because it doesn't encourage/ require you to run as the system
administrator account.

I'm running SUSE Professional 9.x Linux on a "surplus" computer
purchased used 4 years ago, a 350 MHZ Pentium 2 with decent memory and
hard disk. On this computer I mainly use the Firebird browser and
Thunderbird mail and news tool. The Linux distribution included these
tools, Open Offfice and lots of other great software.

I suggest using an extra computer to try Linux, because there can be
problems trying to install Linux to run on the same computer as Windows.
My son experienced problems these problems on a new HP home computer
that had a special back-up partition. One operating system per computer
seems best. That said Linux practically installed itself on the
"surplus" computer.

-ED
May 11th 06, 08:09 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 13:23:58 -0500, netDenizen > wrote:

> -ED wrote:
>
>> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
>> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to
>> turn off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all
>> are Raw Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes
>> modems/routers with UPnP..turn them off)
>>
>
> If you have an extra computer you could try Linux. Or buy a "surplus"
> computer cheap and try Linux there. You may like Linux, and it's more
> secure than the average Windows setup for a lot of reasons, mainly
> because it doesn't encourage/ require you to run as the system
> administrator account.
>
> I'm running SUSE Professional 9.x Linux on a "surplus" computer
> purchased used 4 years ago, a 350 MHZ Pentium 2 with decent memory and
> hard disk. On this computer I mainly use the Firebird browser and
> Thunderbird mail and news tool. The Linux distribution included these
> tools, Open Offfice and lots of other great software.
>
> I suggest using an extra computer to try Linux, because there can be
> problems trying to install Linux to run on the same computer as Windows.
> My son experienced problems these problems on a new HP home computer
> that had a special back-up partition. One operating system per computer
> seems best. That said Linux practically installed itself on the
> "surplus" computer.
Way Way OFF-Subject--
Ya know, I looked into Sun's Solaris..I grabbed some larges files off
their site and put them on disks for a later examinations. I'm not savy
on iso disks and what's entailed in preparing them..I burnt a couple of
starter disks that failed so I stopped wasting blanks.
For the most part, I don't believe the malicious crowd and the
conspirators have had time to disect its code long enough to discover
their weaknesses and security loopholes. But as long as we have
'script-kiddies' on computers all day with no supervision, its gonna take
place. PERIOD. The best thing that happened to computers and the internet
(in my humble opinion) was when Microsoft started placing bounties on
anyone connected with malware activities. 'Bout Damn Time.
I understand you would want about a 6 gig partition just for the os
alone. I'm too tied up at the moment to bother setting this system up.
But I do want to get around to learning linux. And I'm a huge fan of
FireFox and Thunderbird. Thanks for the holler.
Guess we'll get some feedback using FishNet's as a 'puter posting
(lol)..Later



--
Thanks-ED

Altum
May 11th 06, 08:32 PM
-ED wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
> wrote:
>
>> Nikki wrote:
>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>>> time.
>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>> this person posts on other forums also
>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>>
> Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
> what?..
> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to turn
> off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all are Raw
> Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes modems/routers
> with UPnP..turn them off)
>
>
>
> --Thanks-ED

UPnP? Damn. But it works so well with LimeWire (I build my own
spyware-free version from the Java source). Is my XP network going to
go kaput when I turn off UPnP and how do I fix it? Is there a better
newsgroup you could suggest for me to ask this? I'm such a tyro when it
comes to networking and security - I was thrilled when I finally got all
the XP computers in the house sharing files so I could back stuff up.
(One had allowanonymous=0 in the $#*&#$% registry!)

--
Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

Mister Gardener
May 11th 06, 08:34 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 18:04:01 GMT, -ED > wrote:

>On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
>wrote:
>
>> Nikki wrote:
>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>>> time.
>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>> this person posts on other forums also
>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>>
>Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
>what?..
>OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting security
>issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to turn off in
>WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all are Raw Sockets,
>File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes modems/routers with
>UPnP..turn them off)

Now that's off topic for sure. So shall add to it by reminding people
that Microsoft releases their Windows updates on the second Tuesday of
every month and all you have to do is click on Windows Update in
Windows Explorer and let Microsoft do the driving for you. Tons of
security updates in the past year.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

Nikki
May 11th 06, 09:07 PM
"Altum" > wrote in message
om...
> Nikki wrote:
>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>> [...]
>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>> time.
>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>> this person posts on other forums also
> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>
> --
> Put the word aquaria in the subject to email me.
> Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

It is I think, I did a search on google because I thought I seen the name
before, and some other people in other groups were saying the same thing.
Nik

-ED
May 11th 06, 09:17 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:32:01 -0500, Altum >
wrote:

> -ED wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nikki wrote:
>>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>>>> time.
>>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>> this person posts on other forums also
>>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>>>
>> Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
>> what?..
>> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
>> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to
>> turn off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all
>> are Raw Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes
>> modems/routers with UPnP..turn them off)
>> --Thanks-ED
>
> UPnP? Damn. But it works so well with LimeWire (I build my own
> spyware-free version from the Java source). Is my XP network going to
> go kaput when I turn off UPnP and how do I fix it? Is there a better
> newsgroup you could suggest for me to ask this? I'm such a tyro when it
> comes to networking and security - I was thrilled when I finally got all
> the XP computers in the house sharing files so I could back stuff up.
> (One had allowanonymous=0 in the $#*&#$% registry!)
>

You're a good person Altum, and I'll never try to waste your time. I
service computers here (X86 platforms..the hardware end, as well as MS),
and I don't want to paint you into a corner panicing for your life-
BUT..starting with Windows NT4...security went right out the window. MS
never once bothered entertaining the idea that malicious people were RIGHT
under their damn noses. The rest is history. Security Issues are not a
subject you want to study and ask about on USENETS...that would defeat the
purpose. USENETS are notorious for malware infestations. That's why I've
never bothered with them until my confidence level was on the roof as far
as my system being impenetrable. The script kiddies and their peer groups
are hard as hell to catch, thanks to internet users shouting privacy
rights and so forth.(Actually, the internet went to hell the day the
government turned it over for public abuse)..in my most certain opinion.
However, let me steer you towards Steve Gibson's site. Take your time. Its
alot to digest in one visit. Bookmark it and stop in there frequently.
Steve's one of the main driving forces in showing MS how vunerable their
os was and is. They've finally taken notice, hence the delay of Vista for
security reasons. http://www.grc.com is his site..you'll find priceless
utilities to help lock your system down, laymen's understanding of the MS
firewall, FBI warnings users should implement..gobbs and gobbs of FYI,
testing portals, archives from his weekly radio program in mp3 or PDF
downloads...
Like I mentioned..this is not the right newsgroup for this subject matter,
but think for a minute...of all the abuse and cross-postings and trolling
you've witnessed via this newsgroup..you can't get the straight and skinny
about security from a newsgroup and feel confident you've been told the
truth. It's information suicide. Bar None.
FBI warned the public of the breech of security UPnP allows (provides) via
Windows as well as modems and routers that employ that service. a big fat
no-no to have. MS found out late. They wanted to make Windows
fun....never mind the security. The internet, as you know, isn't a fun
place anymore. It's become a nasty-a-- zone, given the whole. And as long
as programmers issues betas of their product for people to test drive, the
malware community is laughing their ass off, since the 'ACE' is being
played. The playbook is practically given to them. Programmers don't or
won't see it that way.

I've rambled enough. I didn't want to scare your pants off, but the
reality is there, just the same. All the Best..

--
Thanks-ED

Koi-Lo
May 11th 06, 09:21 PM
"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> Now that's off topic for sure. So shall add to it by reminding people
> that Microsoft releases their Windows updates on the second Tuesday of
> every month and all you have to do is click on Windows Update in
> Windows Explorer and let Microsoft do the driving for you. Tons of
> security updates in the past year.
=====================
I have the updates set to automatic. They automatically download and
install with no input from me. You can't beat that with a stick.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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-ED
May 11th 06, 09:23 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:34:07 -0500, Mister Gardener
> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 May 2006 18:04:01 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nikki wrote:
>>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>>>> time.
>>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>> this person posts on other forums also
>>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>>>
>> Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
>> what?..
>> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
>> security
>> issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to turn off in
>> WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all are Raw
>> Sockets,
>> File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes modems/routers with
>> UPnP..turn them off)
>
> Now that's off topic for sure. So shall add to it by reminding people
> that Microsoft releases their Windows updates on the second Tuesday of
> every month and all you have to do is click on Windows Update in
> Windows Explorer and let Microsoft do the driving for you. Tons of
> security updates in the past year.
>
>
Yes, and that's the trouble with XP, its a bandaged operating system now..
Service Pack One was(is)excellent as far as stability. You can kill off
alot of fun features and 'lets make computing easier' features, and
employing a sound firewall and anti-virus...you're good to go. XP2 is
fine, regarding the security loopholes being closed, bit-by-bit. MS is
scrambling late in the game; with Vista rewrites and XP rewrites. Now
think about It! It's enough to turn your stomach in disgust. As for me,I
run XP SP1 with NO patches save the meta-fix after the new year diaster
that cropped up. As I pointed out to Altum, GRC is a great place to catch
up on 'the skinny' of what's really going down with MS. You won't get
anything from MS but spincity. HTH



--
Thanks-ED

-ED
May 11th 06, 09:35 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:32:01 -0500, Altum >
wrote:

> -ED wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nikki wrote:
>>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>>>> time.
>>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>> this person posts on other forums also
>>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>>>
>> Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
>> what?..
>> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
>> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to
>> turn off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all
>> are Raw Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes
>> modems/routers with UPnP..turn them off)
>> --Thanks-ED
>
> UPnP? Damn. But it works so well with LimeWire (I build my own
> spyware-free version from the Java source). Is my XP network going to
> go kaput when I turn off UPnP and how do I fix it? Is there a better
> newsgroup you could suggest for me to ask this? I'm such a tyro when it
> comes to networking and security - I was thrilled when I finally got all
> the XP computers in the house sharing files so I could back stuff up.
> (One had allowanonymous=0 in the $#*&#$% registry!)
>
Well, trial and error is your course of action here. Do you use broadband
or dial-up(Broadband is the monster to tame, dial-up is too slow for
hackers to waste their time with)..Broadbanders need to access their
modem/router's control panel and disable the UPnP..now with
Windows..that's another matter. Your network will most likely depend on
it. Dump the messanger at all costs..a two-way firewall is a must. Most
routers have them integrated in their circuitry these days, I'm almost
sure! Operative word here is almost.
File and printer sharing is needed for the home-network, so that's MS job
to patch that up, and I suppose they have. What I'd like for you to do, at
the risk of sounding like a product rep, is grab the trial version of
TrojanHunter (one-word). It's a 30 trial, and probably the 'best' trojan
seeker on the market. I personally employ BitDefender Nine(out of
Germany).
I ran XP2 for awhile..It slowed the system down, didn't matter how much
ram or clock speed I threw at it. So I went back to XP1, dumped using
system restore (which can become corrupt ie-recovery options are shot if
Restore file gets infected),Recycle Bin is not longer used, and Windows
System Backup Files deleted since root-kits can make them useless just the
same. I'm tell'in ya..the trojan community are a slick bunch...HTH


--
Thanks-ED

Gill Passman
May 11th 06, 09:45 PM
Koi-Lo wrote:
>
> "Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Now that's off topic for sure. So shall add to it by reminding people
>> that Microsoft releases their Windows updates on the second Tuesday of
>> every month and all you have to do is click on Windows Update in
>> Windows Explorer and let Microsoft do the driving for you. Tons of
>> security updates in the past year.
>
> =====================
> I have the updates set to automatic. They automatically download and
> install with no input from me. You can't beat that with a stick.

But maybe you should do (beat it with a stick I mean).....IME applying
updates without due testing can result in your computer dieing or at the
very least not doing what you are used to having it do....now of course
most home users don't have the resources of companies to do the
necessary testing so the best bet is to wait a few weeks before applying
any updates - if there is a problem with the update the corporates will
normally have reported it (doesn't mean necessarily that it has been
fixed but one can live in hope)....the only exception to this rule I
make is for security updates when some hacker yet again has found a hole
in MS security that leaves the user open to abuse....JME

netDenizen
May 11th 06, 09:55 PM
-ED wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2006 13:23:58 -0500, netDenizen > wrote:
>
>> -ED wrote:
>>
> Way Way OFF-Subject--
> Ya know, I looked into Sun's Solaris..I grabbed some larges files off
> their site and put them on disks for a later examinations. I'm not
> savy on iso disks and what's entailed in preparing them..I burnt a
> couple of starter disks that failed so I stopped wasting blanks.
> For the most part, I don't believe the malicious crowd and the
> conspirators have had time to disect its code long enough to discover
> their weaknesses and security loopholes. But as long as we have
> 'script-kiddies' on computers all day with no supervision, its gonna
> take place. PERIOD. The best thing that happened to computers and the
> internet (in my humble opinion) was when Microsoft started placing
> bounties on anyone connected with malware activities. 'Bout Damn Time.
> I understand you would want about a 6 gig partition just for the os
> alone. I'm too tied up at the moment to bother setting this system
> up. But I do want to get around to learning linux. And I'm a huge fan
> of FireFox and Thunderbird. Thanks for the holler.
> Guess we'll get some feedback using FishNet's as a 'puter posting
> (lol)..Later
>
>
>

How to tie this topic back to fish? Well, there's been discussion of
frugal fishkeeping for retired people - I'm retired more or less.
Aquarium keeping is a hobby and computers are a hobby. Linux and other
open/ free software plus an old computer allow frugal pursuit of the
computer hobby. Furthermore, the availability of information via the
Internet has enhanced my aquarium hobby, and our newsgroups are in
Usenet, which started before wide Internet adoption, but on Unix
computers (Linux is Unix-like).

The only time I burned ISO disk images was for the Mandrake Linux I
started with. Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4 had an option for this,
discovered by Google search. This was on a Windows 98 computer. On my
Win XP computer I just use Windows to burn data CDs and have no idea how
to do ISO images, sorry.

The SUSE professional disks were purchased from a web site (not SUSE's)
that burned and provided all kinds of Linux distributions. It was $20
Canadian I think. The package of about 10 CDs arrived within 5 days!

As to size of boot partition etc I don't know. There are default options
I used, or you can specify. I did run Linux on a 3GB hard drive at
first, but now have 80 GB - mostly unused.

How useful is desktop Linux? Well, it comes with a pretty good suite of
applications ready for use. It's rock stable, and a very interesting
system to learn about, especially the server applications that come with
it. The downside: applications that are not provided in the distribution
may be tough to install. Experimenting with Linux, as opposed to just
using basic Web and office applications, requires some techy knowledge.
I've been learning as I go using the Internet and books, but also
benefit from Unix training and experience gained before Windows became
ubiquitous.

I adopted Linux mainly to play with a free, open geographic information
system and was successful at the cost of considerable effort. I also
experienced one instance of an application that came with my Linux
distribution no longer installing - because I regularly update my SUSE
Linux over the net using tools that are provided - much like Windows
update.

If you want to discuss this stuff further, perhaps we should go to a
group where the nerds hang out :) . Does anyone know of an aquarium
screensaver for my Suse KDE desktop?

-ED
May 11th 06, 09:58 PM
On Thu, 11 May 2006 15:45:31 -0500, Gill Passman
> wrote:

> Koi-Lo wrote:
>> "Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Now that's off topic for sure. So shall add to it by reminding people
>>> that Microsoft releases their Windows updates on the second Tuesday of
>>> every month and all you have to do is click on Windows Update in
>>> Windows Explorer and let Microsoft do the driving for you. Tons of
>>> security updates in the past year.
>> =====================
>> I have the updates set to automatic. They automatically download and
>> install with no input from me. You can't beat that with a stick.
>
> But maybe you should do (beat it with a stick I mean).....IME applying
> updates without due testing can result in your computer dieing or at the
> very least not doing what you are used to having it do....now of course
> most home users don't have the resources of companies to do the
> necessary testing so the best bet is to wait a few weeks before applying
> any updates - if there is a problem with the update the corporates will
> normally have reported it (doesn't mean necessarily that it has been
> fixed but one can live in hope)....the only exception to this rule I
> make is for security updates when some hacker yet again has found a hole
> in MS security that leaves the user open to abuse....JME

Thanks, Gill..That's exactly the position I wanted to convey. Patchwork
is just that, nothing more...a half-rigged computer serves noone..save the
ill-intended.

--
Thanks-ED

Koi-Lo
May 11th 06, 10:12 PM
"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Koi-Lo wrote:
>> I have the updates set to automatic. They automatically download and
>> install with no input from me. You can't beat that with a stick.
=====================
> But maybe you should do (beat it with a stick I mean).....IME applying
> updates without due testing can result in your computer dieing or at the
> very least not doing what you are used to having it do....now of course
> most home users don't have the resources of companies to do the necessary
> testing so the best bet is to wait a few weeks before applying any
> updates - if there is a problem with the update the corporates will
> normally have reported it (doesn't mean necessarily that it has been fixed
> but one can live in hope)....the only exception to this rule I make is for
> security updates when some hacker yet again has found a hole in MS
> security that leaves the user open to abuse....JME
=========================
So far so good Gill. I haven't run into any problems with the updates. I
can always delete them or do a sys-restore if something went wrong. We also
have this PC Norton-ghosted. That reminds me, it has to be done again.....

I have several PC-prophylactics on this PC including ZoneAlarm. I run
Spybot and AdAware at least once a month. I have a start-up manager etc.
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Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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netDenizen
May 11th 06, 10:43 PM
ED_ wrote Re: Windows auto-update etc:
>
> Thanks, Gill..That's exactly the position I wanted to convey.
> Patchwork is just that, nothing more...a half-rigged computer serves
> noone..save the ill-intended.
>

IMHO Windows auto-update is fine for home users like me, as long as
their important data is backed up and theyre willing to restore the
computer from scratch in case of disaster. That's a big if, I know...

With ready availability of USB hard drives, memory keys, CD and DVD
burners it's a lot easier for a home user to stay backed up than it used
to be.

Must say I LIKE the Linux system for Internet work, though. Hard to say
whether it's more secure than the patched XP computer with a virus
scanner, XP firewall and a NAT firewall/ router.

Best improvement to security/ stability of our home computers was
sending our son away to University :) :) .

Gill Passman
May 11th 06, 11:09 PM
netDenizen wrote:
>
> ED_ wrote Re: Windows auto-update etc:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Gill..That's exactly the position I wanted to convey.
>> Patchwork is just that, nothing more...a half-rigged computer serves
>> noone..save the ill-intended.
>>
>
> IMHO Windows auto-update is fine for home users like me, as long as
> their important data is backed up and theyre willing to restore the
> computer from scratch in case of disaster. That's a big if, I know...
>
> With ready availability of USB hard drives, memory keys, CD and DVD
> burners it's a lot easier for a home user to stay backed up than it used
> to be.
>
> Must say I LIKE the Linux system for Internet work, though. Hard to say
> whether it's more secure than the patched XP computer with a virus
> scanner, XP firewall and a NAT firewall/ router.
>
> Best improvement to security/ stability of our home computers was
> sending our son away to University :) :) .

Well, all I can say is "long live the Penguin".......

We are getting way off topic here....I totally agree that Linux (and
UNIX) are far more stable as OS than Windows or anything MS cares to
throw at us - however Windows is the standard OS these days and one that
most people use and are comfortable with....and we are forced to accept
whatever is thrown at us.....

I remember being told on a Red Hat cert course "rebooting a machine is
only for Windows users" - lol

If either of you wish to continue this discussion (Ed/NetDenizen) please
feel free to mail me....just remove the spam trap....

Gill

Tedd Jacobs
May 12th 06, 03:24 AM
"Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "TheBassMan" wrote...
> [...]
>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>> time.
>
> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>
> [...]


geesh! try and add a little humor with props for a highly respected memeber
(as well as getting a free drink) and you get 19 posts of nothing.

yes we know the guy posts the same thing in other groups.
yes we know there are programs/aplications better suited to different
things.

lets think about the positive way this can be turned for *our* group.

1. who's an expert.
2. expert gets paid.
3. expert buys everyone a drink.
4. we all have a toast and be happy.
more importantly:
5. our 'experts' get a small token of the well desrved praise and thanks due
them in an enjoyable parody.

/me waits for M*x to buy us a drink.

-ED
May 12th 06, 04:05 AM
"Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "TheBassMan" wrote...
> > [...]
> >> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
> >> time.
> >
> > methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
> >
> > [...]
>
>
> geesh! try and add a little humor with props for a highly respected
memeber
> (as well as getting a free drink) and you get 19 posts of nothing.
>
> yes we know the guy posts the same thing in other groups.
> yes we know there are programs/aplications better suited to different
> things.
>
> lets think about the positive way this can be turned for *our* group.
>
> 1. who's an expert.
> 2. expert gets paid.
> 3. expert buys everyone a drink.
> 4. we all have a toast and be happy.
> more importantly:
> 5. our 'experts' get a small token of the well desrved praise and thanks
due
> them in an enjoyable parody.
>
> /me waits for M*x to buy us a drink.
>
> Have you tried the group of experts @alt.test

NetMax
May 12th 06, 04:31 AM
"Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>> [...]
>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>> time.
>>
>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>
>> [...]
>
>
> geesh! try and add a little humor with props for a highly respected
> memeber (as well as getting a free drink) and you get 19 posts of
> nothing.
>
> yes we know the guy posts the same thing in other groups.
> yes we know there are programs/aplications better suited to different
> things.
>
> lets think about the positive way this can be turned for *our* group.
>
> 1. who's an expert.
> 2. expert gets paid.
> 3. expert buys everyone a drink.
> 4. we all have a toast and be happy.
> more importantly:
> 5. our 'experts' get a small token of the well desrved praise and
> thanks due them in an enjoyable parody.
>
> /me waits for M*x to buy us a drink.


ok, but...
a) there are other, far more expert 'experts' than me, and
b) I'll just put it towards a good cause (and no, I don't need any more
fish!), ... but I can't think of any aquaria related charities, so you
just might be getting your drink as planned ;~)
--
www.NetMax.tk

Tedd Jacobs
May 12th 06, 08:48 AM
"NetMax" wrote...
> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>>> [...]
>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>
>> geesh! try and add a little humor with props for a highly respected
>> memeber (as well as getting a free drink) and you get 19 posts of
>> nothing.
>>
>> yes we know the guy posts the same thing in other groups.
>> yes we know there are programs/aplications better suited to different
>> things.
>>
>> lets think about the positive way this can be turned for *our* group.
>>
>> 1. who's an expert.
>> 2. expert gets paid.
>> 3. expert buys everyone a drink.
>> 4. we all have a toast and be happy.
>> more importantly:
>> 5. our 'experts' get a small token of the well desrved praise and thanks
>> due them in an enjoyable parody.
>>
>> /me waits for M*x to buy us a drink.
>
>
> ok, but...
> a) there are other, far more expert 'experts' than me, and

.... and none more humble. my praise still goes to max who when he doesnt
know the answer says so, then goes and finds it. (and not only that, he is
a very patient with people) ;-)

> b) I'll just put it towards a good cause (and no, I don't need any more
> fish!), ... but I can't think of any aquaria related charities, so you
> just might be getting your drink as planned ;~)

woo hoo! see! being positive does get you something!

> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>

Tedd Jacobs
May 12th 06, 08:50 AM
"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "TheBassMan" wrote...
>> > [...]
>> >> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>> >> time.
>> >
>> > methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>> >
>> > [...]
>>
>>
>> geesh! try and add a little humor with props for a highly respected
> memeber
>> (as well as getting a free drink) and you get 19 posts of nothing.
>>
>> yes we know the guy posts the same thing in other groups.
>> yes we know there are programs/aplications better suited to different
>> things.
>>
>> lets think about the positive way this can be turned for *our* group.
>>
>> 1. who's an expert.
>> 2. expert gets paid.
>> 3. expert buys everyone a drink.
>> 4. we all have a toast and be happy.
>> more importantly:
>> 5. our 'experts' get a small token of the well desrved praise and thanks
> due
>> them in an enjoyable parody.
>>
>> /me waits for M*x to buy us a drink.
>>
> Have you tried the group of experts @alt.test

dont say "test",... i just got done with finals. ;-)

TCC Taking Care of Carol
May 12th 06, 03:05 PM
Well that leaves Carol out doesn't it.......She would have to have a
computer handy so she could find answers to question on websites.as
she is basically a dumbass without a clue.


On Thu, 11 May 2006 19:32:01 GMT, Altum >
wrote:
>><>-ED wrote:
>><>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:45:39 -0500, Altum >
>><>> wrote:
>><>>
>><>>> Nikki wrote:
>><>>>> "Tedd Jacobs" > wrote in message
>><>>>> ...
>><>>>>> "TheBassMan" wrote...
>><>>>>> [...]
>><>>>>>> Of course, this is a PAID interview. You will be paid $200 for you
>><>>>>>> time.
>><>>>>> methinks the next round of drinks are on N*tM*x. ;-)
>><>>>>>
>><>>>>> [...]
>><>>>>>
>><>>>> this person posts on other forums also
>><>>> Sounds like some sort of bizarre scam to me.
>><>>>
>><>> Looking at the .edu--He might be 'phishing' info regarding who knows
>><>> what?..
>><>> OFF SUBJECT-With MS putting off Vista 'till next year (rewriting
>><>> security issues)...I'd hope people have kept up on what features to turn
>><>> off in WindowsXP to halt malware intrusions. Biggest four of all are Raw
>><>> Sockets, File sharing, Messenger and UPnP.(That includes modems/routers
>><>> with UPnP..turn them off)
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> --Thanks-ED
>><>
>><>UPnP? Damn. But it works so well with LimeWire (I build my own
>><>spyware-free version from the Java source). Is my XP network going to
>><>go kaput when I turn off UPnP and how do I fix it? Is there a better
>><>newsgroup you could suggest for me to ask this? I'm such a tyro when it
>><>comes to networking and security - I was thrilled when I finally got all
>><>the XP computers in the house sharing files so I could back stuff up.
>><>(One had allowanonymous=0 in the $#*&#$% registry!)


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