What does everyone like best about keeping fish?

[Gill Passman]

Hi All,

I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the
new big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide
in to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week -
these fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he

While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae
scraping or the water changes although I don't really mind doing
them....I love creating the environments for them and tending the plants
and looking at a thing of beauty that contains happy, content
fish....but most of all I think I enjoy watching them going about their
little lives and how they all interact and have their own little
characters :-)

All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....

Gill

[Mellie101]

Was wandering the same thing only the other day. My husband likes to
watch them but that is where the interest stops. I just love the whole
'interaction' with them too. I get such a buzz when you are doing a
water change and they come and nibble your finger or arm. Makes you
feel so pleased that they are that comfortable with you. I love it
that they come to the corner whenever you walk past or come up to the
glass and watch you when you are doing something close by. I also love
the way they don't answer back, demand to watch 'The Wiggles' and tell
you that they don't like what you have given them for dinner.

I suppose mostly it is such a sense of achievement when everything is
going well and they are thriving.

Such a lovely topic
Mellie

[Nikki]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
> big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
> to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
> fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>
> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
> or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
> creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
> thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
> think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
> all interact and have their own little characters :-)
>
> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
> Gill

I like coming down the next morning after setting up a new tank & buying new
fish, and seeing it all worked out .... they all look good "not stuck to the
filter". I also like watching them at night just because its relaxing, the
sound of the water puts me to sleep. My adult three spot gourami, is now
acting like a parent of the two baby gourami, he will swim in-between when
they are chasing each other, which they do a lot, they will stop and go to
separate sides of the tank, its pretty funny to watch. One of my new angels
is shadowing the big gourami, stays right beside him all day until I shut
the light off, then he goes and hangs with the other angel.
Nik

[Mellie101]

On 14 May 2006 07:03:38 -0700, "Mellie101" >
wrote:
>><>Was wandering the same thing only the other day. My husband likes to
>><>watch them but that is where the interest stops. I just love the entire ordeal
>><>of ****ing them up and seeing them suffer. I get such a buzz when you are doing a
>><>water change using crappy water and they look at you in that slime asking for clear water,
>><> then you **** in the tank and laugh at their little face and tell em if they do not behave the
>><>next water change is dishwater.. I have made them endure nasty parameters for weeks.
>><>Much harder to keep a fish in crappy water than good water.
>><>Especiallly like it when they go belly up..man thats a trip.
>><>
>><>Such a lovely topic
>><>Mellie


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[Victor Martinez]

Gill Passman wrote:
> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....

Watching them seems to soothe most people.

--
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On 2006-05-14, Gill Passman > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the
> new big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide
> in to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week -
> these fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>
> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae
> scraping or the water changes although I don't really mind doing
> them....I love creating the environments for them and tending the plants
> and looking at a thing of beauty that contains happy, content
> fish....but most of all I think I enjoy watching them going about their
> little lives and how they all interact and have their own little
> characters :-)
>
> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
> Gill

I have wanted to keep fish since I was about 8 years old and fascinated
with marine/aquatic life. I only just began to do it about 3 months
ago. 30 years later. Part of the motive impulse was my daughter, but
she is too young to really care (although she always asks "can I help
you Daddy feed the fish?")

I think you hit the mark in noting how tending and caring for a small,
organized, happy environment (what the old Greeks would call a "kosmos"
[also an ornament, a "thing of beauty") reflects happiness to the
caretaker. Like gardening perhaps? I know that watching the fish in
the world I struggle to make a happy one for them gives me a lot of
inner peace.

I'm a beginner so that is just my neophyte consideration :)

Fred

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[Koi-Lo]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 15:30:08 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
> wrote:
SNip a bunch of Fredrick's hulla baloo.......and yu thought you were
posyting to a fish forum huh, what a dumbass....we just want yuyr
email address..............now get lost.

The Great Koi-Lo


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Mister Gardener]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:56:01 -0500, Victor Martinez >
wrote:

>Gill Passman wrote:
>> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....

I derive supreme satisfaction when I've been able to set up the right
conditions for fish to spawn successfully, and I enjoy raising the fry
and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
motive in everything.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

[Koi-Lo]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
> big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
> to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
> fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he

A takeover of your household. They've already captured your heart. ;-)

> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
> or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
> creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
> thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
> think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
> all interact and have their own little characters :-)

Ditto!

> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
> Gill

I find few things as relaxing as sitting in my sunroom, cup of coffee in
hand, watching the fish in the two 55g tanks go about their business. All
the little problems and stresses of life just seem to vanish........
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Koi-Lo]

The only supreme anything about you is that you are a supreme
asshole. Y'all tell Carol how you appreciate all these new posts in
this precious forum.


On Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:59 -0400, Mister Gardener
> wrote:
>><>On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:56:01 -0500, Victor Martinez >
>><>wrote:
>><>
>><>>Gill Passman wrote:
>><>>> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>><>
>><>I derive supreme satisfaction when I've been able to set up the right
>><>conditions for fish to spawn successfully, and I enjoy raising the fry
>><>and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
>><>motive in everything.
>><>
>><>-- Mister Gardener


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

No one really cares CArol, they are just doing the be nive thing to
make yu feel wanted, but they really abhore you just the same you
worthless twit!
On Sun, 14 May 2006 10:39:56 -0500, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Hi All,
>><>>
>><>> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
>><>> big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
>><>> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
>><>> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
>><>> to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
>><>> fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>><>
>><>A takeover of your household. They've already captured your heart. ;-)
>><>
>><>> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
>><>> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
>><>> or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
>><>> creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
>><>> thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
>><>> think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
>><>> all interact and have their own little characters :-)
>><>
>><>Ditto!
>><>
>><>> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>><>>
>><>> Gill
>><>
>><>I find few things as relaxing as sitting in my sunroom, cup of coffee in
>><>hand, watching the fish in the two 55g tanks go about their business. All
>><>the little problems and stresses of life just seem to vanish........


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

*NOTE: There are two Koi-Lo's on this NG*

"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> I derive supreme satisfaction when I've been able to set up the right
> conditions for fish to spawn successfully, and I enjoy raising the fry
> and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
> motive in everything.
========================
I enjoyed spending the money more than making it when I sold all those young
koi this spring. ;-) I bought two more 680g tanks (only $14.99 each at
W*W), 2 more water pumps........
--
Koi-Lo....
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Aquariums since 1952.
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[netDenizen]

Gill Passman wrote:
> Hi All,
> ... All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
> Gill

I like having aquatic environments around the house. I like watching the
schools of fish swim, and watching plant growth over time.

I like learning about water chemistry, natural habitats, fish and plant
biology and classification, all that stuff. Sources of information were
books and some other aquarists, but in the last 10 years the Internet
has become a more important source.

I liked building an aquarium stand and a few light hoods. I also enjoy
slightly modifying the filter plumbing to suit.

And I regard some fish as pets: my old clown loaches and goldfish.

[Victor Martinez]

Mister Gardener wrote:
> and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
> motive in everything.

Speak for yourself.

--
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[-ED]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 08:04:44 -0500, Gill Passman
> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the
> new big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide
> in to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week -
> these fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>
> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly thatI
> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae
> scraping or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them.....

Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
something. It only takes a few minutes a week and makes such a difference
in the well-being of all the tankmates. And a 5gal buckets makes for good
exerice!

I love creating the environments for them and tending the plants
> and looking at a thing of beauty that contains happy, content
> fish....but most of all I think I enjoy watching them going about their
> little lives and how they all interact and have their own little
> characters :-)
>
> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish......
>
> Gill

You summed it up. People can throw together an aquarium of chaos and
disorder, or a blissful environment. 'Scaping is a big part of it IMHO.

--
Thanks-ED

[-ED]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:03:38 -0500, Mellie101 >
wrote:

> Was wandering the same thing only the other day. My husband likes to
> watch them but that is where the interest stops. I just love the whole
> 'interaction' with them too. I get such a buzz when you are doing a
> water change and they come and nibble your finger or arm. Makes you
> feel so pleased that they are that comfortable with you. I love it
> that they come to the corner whenever you walk past or come up to the
> glass and watch you when you are doing something close by. I also love
> the way they don't answer back, demand to watch 'The Wiggles' and tell
> you that they don't like what you have given them for dinner.
>
> I suppose mostly it is such a sense of achievement when everything is
> going well and they are thriving.
>
> Such a lovely topic
> Mellie
>

Not to mention the sub-conscience tranquility that it stimulates for any
aquarium admirer. Some setup tanks with a sense of pride. Some with a
sense of showmanship..some just because they care.

--
Thanks-ED

[Gill Passman]

Mister Gardener wrote:
> On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:56:01 -0500, Victor Martinez >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Gill Passman wrote:
>>
>>>All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
>
> I derive supreme satisfaction when I've been able to set up the right
> conditions for fish to spawn successfully, and I enjoy raising the fry
> and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
> motive in everything.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me

there is a great deal of satisfaction to be got from seeing that you
have created an environment that allows your fish to breed....that is
great....I remember and still feel the excitement when you spot a new
baby.....

I know you far better than to even believe that money plays a part -
however you may wish to portray yourself....you just get a kick out of
all those ickle, lickle fishies - admit it....store credit is a plus but
not the be all and end all for you or me....all it does is help finance
our addiction :-)

Gill

[Karen Green]

"-ED" > wrote in message
...

Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
=============
Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It takes
me two or three afternoons.
--
Me~ :-)
Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[ArchieBunker]

Whats a matter there Carol talking to the only friend you have in the
USAIsn;t it about time to morph again..were all onto you.

On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>><>
>><>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
>><>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>><>=============
>><>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It takes
>><>me two or three afternoons.


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[-ED]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, Karen Green > wrote:

>
> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
> for
> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
> =============
> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
> takes
> me two or three afternoons.


You've got an excellent point there, and I can look forward to more H2O
changing as I start building my next tank. :| Now that I think about it
in that perspective...given the size of my apartment and the upkeep costs
involved....OUCH!!
--
Thanks-ED

[Karen Green]

Frankly I don;t give a dam.....what you build or how much water costs
its a mundane statement like the one that made it.
On Mon, 15 May 2006 05:06:44 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, Karen Green > wrote:
>><>
>><>>
>><>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>><>> ...
>><>>
>><>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
>><>> for
>><>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>><>> =============
>><>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>><>> takes
>><>> me two or three afternoons.
>><>
>><>
>><>You've got an excellent point there, and I can look forward to more H2O
>><>changing as I start building my next tank. :| Now that I think about it
>><>in that perspective...given the size of my apartment and the upkeep costs
>><>involved....OUCH!!


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[-ED]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:04:48 -0500, ArchieBunker >
wrote:

> Whats a matter there Carol talking to the only friend you have in the
> USAIsn;t it about time to morph again..were all onto you.
>
Why are you morphing? You're mirroring your targets. Don't forget your
4:00 methadone treatments, now. And stop scratching the sore below your
nose or it won't heal properly.
And don't pick your nose and keep your elbows off the table when you're
eating.
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
> wrote:
>>> <>
>>> <>"-ED" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> <>
>>> <>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the
>>> store for
>>> <>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>> <>=============
>>> <>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks.
>>> It takes
>>> <>me two or three afternoons.
>
>
> ==============================================
> Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
> "The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
> given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
> my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
> only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
> ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Rôze N. Krânz]

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, Karen Green > wrote:

>
> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
> for
> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
> =============
> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
> takes
> me two or three afternoons.

You've got an excellent point there, and I can look forward to more H2O
changing as I start building my next tank. :| Now that I think about it
in that perspective...given the size of my apartment and the upkeep costs
involved....OUCH!!
--
Thanks-ED
=======================
Our water bill is sky high. Not only do I have the fishtanks inside but the
ponds and tanks outside. Water changes are time consuming and my least
favorite activity. I almost liked the "old days" better because we didn't
know about water changes. Geeze, it's a wonder any of our fish survived
over a year back then.
--
Me~
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
I do not post from Earthlink.net
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[Dick]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:04:44 +0100, Gill Passman
> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the
>new big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
>looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
>Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide
>in to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week -
>these fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>
>While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
>love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae
>scraping or the water changes although I don't really mind doing
>them....I love creating the environments for them and tending the plants
>and looking at a thing of beauty that contains happy, content
>fish....but most of all I think I enjoy watching them going about their
>little lives and how they all interact and have their own little
>characters :-)
>
>All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
>Gill

I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
I will miss the activity of something happening.

dick

[Mister Gardener]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:04:14 +0100, Gill Passman
> wrote:

>Mister Gardener wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 09:56:01 -0500, Victor Martinez >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gill Passman wrote:
>>>
>>>>All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>>
>>
>> I derive supreme satisfaction when I've been able to set up the right
>> conditions for fish to spawn successfully, and I enjoy raising the fry
>> and taking them to market. Hey, this is amerika - there's a money
>> motive in everything.
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>
>there is a great deal of satisfaction to be got from seeing that you
>have created an environment that allows your fish to breed....that is
>great....I remember and still feel the excitement when you spot a new
>baby.....
>
>I know you far better than to even believe that money plays a part -
>however you may wish to portray yourself....you just get a kick out of
>all those ickle, lickle fishies - admit it....store credit is a plus but
>not the be all and end all for you or me....all it does is help finance
>our addiction :-)
>
>Gill

Nice thing about having young fish that stores really want is that I
don't deal in store credit, I get cash dollars. Generally half of
whatever the dealer's selling price is.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

[Gill Passman]

Mister Gardener wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
>>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>=============
>>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It takes
>>me two or three afternoons.
>
>
> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
> foot Python Clone.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me

I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....

Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....I've just
been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home -
and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels....

Gill

[Karen Green]

**** off and die Carol

You can run but you can not hide......

On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:03:50 -0500, Rôze N. Krânz
> wrote:
>><>
>><>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, Karen Green > wrote:
>><>
>><>>
>><>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>><>> ...
>><>>
>><>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
>><>> for
>><>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>><>> =============
>><>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>><>> takes
>><>> me two or three afternoons.
>><>
>><>You've got an excellent point there, and I can look forward to more H2O
>><>changing as I start building my next tank. :| Now that I think about it
>><>in that perspective...given the size of my apartment and the upkeep costs
>><>involved....OUCH!!
>><>--
>><>Thanks-ED
>><>=======================
>><>Our water bill is sky high. Not only do I have the fishtanks inside but the
>><>ponds and tanks outside. Water changes are time consuming and my least
>><>favorite activity. I almost liked the "old days" better because we didn't
>><>know about water changes. Geeze, it's a wonder any of our fish survived
>><>over a year back then.


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[-ED]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:42:22 -0500, Gill Passman
> wrote:

> Mister Gardener wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
>>> for
>>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>> =============
>>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>>> takes
>>> me two or three afternoons.
>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my35
>> foot Python Clone.
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>
> I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....
>
> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....I've just
> been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home-
> and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels....
>
> Gill

Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
for one oscar. Help me Gill.

--
Thanks-ED

[Charlië]

"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
>>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>=============
>>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>>takes
>>me two or three afternoons.
>
> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
> foot Python Clone.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me
=======================
I have a Python and use it to drain the 55s out the back door, but it
doesn't reach with the 10s. I wont waste water using the sink
water-pressure to drain them with. That's waste of potable water beyond
reason. I do need to get some kind of adapter to use it to fill the tanks.
The original one was crap and cracked. I ordered another one and that one
also cracked after a few months. I want to see if I can get something made
of brass at Lowe's or Home Depot. Now if I could only remember to take the
hose with me........
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-ED wrote:

>>
>> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....I've
>> just been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their
>> new home - and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black
>> angels....
>>
>> Gill
>
>
> Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do
> with this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that
> oscars and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I
> know the oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a
> pair of blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than
> building a tank for one oscar. Help me Gill.
>

I would assume that they wouldn't mix either - both being cichlids - and
I would guess the angels would come off worse....but Hannibal is so cute
from the picture....it'll be a tough decision for you....glad I don't
have to make it ;-)

Gill

[Charlië]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
>
> I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....

How much water do you change at one time? I do large changes every 2 to 3
weeks.
>
> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....

This is the favorite part of the hobby! :-))

I've just
> been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home -
> and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels....

Now you need three gold ones to go with them. A small group of mixed angels
is a sight to see in a large tank. I've even seen pearlscale angels in that
large Aquarium store in Nashville.
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"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
> I will miss the activity of something happening.
====================
Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
nature and an occasional barking dog.

If you are old or ill you can make plans for your dogs ahead of time at a
no-kill shelter.
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[Charlië]

I am koi lo in disguies, please do not tell anyone who I am......duh I
am a retard as well, Love you all
whose info you gonna belive those of consistent poster
or a fly by poster like me, with no credibility!
Carol...........





On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:35:13 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
>><>>
>><>> I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....
>><>
>><>How much water do you change at one time? I do large changes every 2 to 3
>><>weeks.
>><>>
>><>> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....
>><>
>><>This is the favorite part of the hobby! :-))
>><>
>><>I've just
>><>> been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home -
>><>> and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels....
>><>
>><>Now you need three gold ones to go with them. A small group of mixed angels
>><>is a sight to see in a large tank. I've even seen pearlscale angels in that
>><>large Aquarium store in Nashville.
>><> --
>><>Me~
>><>Aquariums since 1952.
>><>My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
>><>http://tinyurl.com/9do58
>><>I do not post from Earthlink.net
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>><>
>><>
>><>
>><>
>><>
>><>


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[Charlië]

We do not care what you have CArol
How do yu expect to have anyone pay any attention to any strange name
that pops up now, as it could be a ghost, and no track record except
for paranoia such as yu suffer from.....boooooooooooo


On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:31:07 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>><>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>><>> wrote:
>><>>
>><>>>
>><>>>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>><>>>
>><>>>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
>><>>>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>><>>>=============
>><>>>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>><>>>takes
>><>>>me two or three afternoons.
>><>>
>><>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
>><>> foot Python Clone.
>><>>
>><>> -- Mister Gardener
>><>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>><>=======================
>><>I have a Python and use it to drain the 55s out the back door, but it
>><>doesn't reach with the 10s. I wont waste water using the sink
>><>water-pressure to drain them with. That's waste of potable water beyond
>><>reason. I do need to get some kind of adapter to use it to fill the tanks.
>><>The original one was crap and cracked. I ordered another one and that one
>><>also cracked after a few months. I want to see if I can get something made
>><>of brass at Lowe's or Home Depot. Now if I could only remember to take the
>><>hose with me........


==============================================
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given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Charlië]

Yea, I steal em all from the fish market...

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:25:26 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Nice thing about having young fish that stores really want is that I
>><>> don't deal in store credit, I get cash dollars. Generally half of
>><>> whatever the dealer's selling price is.
>><>>
>><>> -- Mister Gardener
>><>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>><>==============================
I am the great Carol Gulley......


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[Charlië]

Screw a TV I like to do it on the washer......with an unbalanced
oad.....UNbalanced just ike my mind is.


On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>><>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>><>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>><>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>><>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>><>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>><>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>><>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>><>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>><>====================
>><>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>><>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>><>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>><>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>><>nature and an occasional barking dog. I use dogs for an early warning system. It tells me when the law is near
>><>
>><>

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[Charlië]

I did not write that message:


Note there are three Charlië on this forum.


On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:55:34 GMT, (Charlië)
wrote:
>><>
>><>Screw a TV I like to do it on the washer......with an unbalanced
>><>oad.....UNbalanced just ike my mind is.
>><>
>><>
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
>><>wrote:
>><>>><>
>><>>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>><>>><>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>><>>><>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>><>>><>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>><>>><>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>><>>><>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>><>>><>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>><>>><>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>><>>><>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>><>>><>====================
>><>>><>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>><>>><>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>><>>><>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>><>>><>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>><>>><>nature and an occasional barking dog. I use dogs for an early warning system. It tells me when the law is near
>><>>><>
>><>>><>
>><>
>><>==============================================
>><>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>><>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>><>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>><>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>><>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
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[Charlië]

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
for one oscar. Help me Gill.
==========================
I never kept an Oscar but every friend I had had problems keeping anything
with them. I have heard of them not eating a feeder GF for some reason.
They'd just ignore one and allow it to share their tank and eat all the
others. From what I saw they grow into large aggressive fish with great
personalities (except with other fish). Great if you don't mind keeping a
large tank containing only one fish.
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On Mon, 15 May 2006 11:19:38 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>><>Ah bitch....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
>><>this oscar and get kinky too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
>><>and sluts like me don't mix well, I haven't looked good today. I know the
>><>oscar needs a bigger dick where as the drunk down the road would do ok for
>><>blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than buying a stud
>><>for me. Help me I want sex but have been csatrated
>><>==========================
>><>I never kept an stud but every friend I had had problems keeping anything
>><>with them. I have heard of them not eating a slut out for some reason.
>><>They'd just ignore one and allow it to share their meat and eat all the
>><>others. From what I saw they grow into large aggressive dicks with great
>><>size (except with other women like me). Great if you don't mind keeping a
>><>large stud harem containing only one good dick

Just Carol aka charlie


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[Mister Gardener]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:25:26 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:

>
>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>> Nice thing about having young fish that stores really want is that I
>> don't deal in store credit, I get cash dollars. Generally half of
>> whatever the dealer's selling price is.
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>==============================
>I get whatever the wholesalers are charging "at the moment" when I sell GF
>and koi. It's usually a little less than 50%.

The main lfs I sell to doesn't put me into competition with the
wholesalers, because he would rather do without than try to keep alive
and sell what comes from the wholesalers. So the market is all mine,
if I want it.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

[Mister Gardener]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:31:07 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:

>
>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store for
>>>something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>>=============
>>>Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>>>takes
>>>me two or three afternoons.
>>
>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
>> foot Python Clone.
>>
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>=======================
>I have a Python and use it to drain the 55s out the back door, but it
>doesn't reach with the 10s. I wont waste water using the sink
>water-pressure to drain them with. That's waste of potable water beyond
>reason. I do need to get some kind of adapter to use it to fill the tanks.
>The original one was crap and cracked. I ordered another one and that one
>also cracked after a few months. I want to see if I can get something made
>of brass at Lowe's or Home Depot. Now if I could only remember to take the
>hose with me........

I don't use water pressure to drain my tanks, gravity does just fine
through the python clone. The tanks are only a few inches higher than
the sink in the next room, but that's enough to keep the siphon going.
I've read about the outrageous amount of good water that a python
wastes in proportion to the relatively small amount siphoned from the
tanks. My water is expensive, I don't waste it, indoors or out. I use
soaker hoses for all of my gardens, as well. I would be perfectly
happy reducing the frequency of my showers, but Missus Gardener draws
the line at that particular water saving action. Or inaction.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

[Nikki]

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:42:22 -0500, Gill Passman
> wrote:

> Mister Gardener wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
>>> for
>>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>> =============
>>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>>> takes
>>> me two or three afternoons.
>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
>> foot Python Clone.
>> -- Mister Gardener
>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>
> I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....
>
> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....I've just
> been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home -
> and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels....
>
> Gill

Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
for one oscar. Help me Gill.

--
Thanks-ED

Oscars are not to happy to share their tank with others, i was the one who
would put feeders in and he would always leave one i think for something to
do, but my pacu did the same thing. I would never of considered putting
angels in with him, good chance they would be dipped out with the net in a
few days.
Nik
My four angels are doing well getting used to the new home. (meaning taking
over the tank)

[Koi-Lo]

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"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:25:26 -0500, Charlië >
> wrote:
>>I get whatever the wholesalers are charging "at the moment" when I sell GF
>>and koi. It's usually a little less than 50%.
>
> The main lfs I sell to doesn't put me into competition with the
> wholesalers, because he would rather do without than try to keep alive
> and sell what comes from the wholesalers. So the market is all mine,
> if I want it.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me
==============================
I don't know if I would call it competition with them. I never saw it that
way. I still make a nice profit. :-)
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"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:23:31 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>>Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
>>this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
>>and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
>>oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
>>blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
>>for one oscar. Help me Gill.
>
> Do you have a bathtub? That might do.
>
> -- Mister Gardener
> -- Pull the WEED to email me
================
He needs to check out the second hand stores for cheap used tanks. I've
seen them as large as 100g+ here in Nashville. I passed up some good buys
simply because I have no more space - NONE!
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Yes, but we keep beer i n it and only drag it out once a month to wash
our ass.........Randy sleeps in it sometimes though.........On Mon, 15
May 2006 12:37:59 -0400, Mister Gardener
> wrote:
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:23:31 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>><>
>><>>On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:42:22 -0500, Gill Passman
> wrote:
>><>>
>><>>> Mister Gardener wrote:
>><>>>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>><>>>> wrote:
>><>>>>
>><>>>>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>><>>>>> ...
>><>>>>>
>><>>>>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the store
>><>>>>> for
>><>>>>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>><>>>>> =============
>><>>>>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks. It
>><>>>>> takes
>><>>>>> me two or three afternoons.
>><>>>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my 35
>><>>>> foot Python Clone.
>><>>>> -- Mister Gardener
>><>>>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>><>>>
>pull that god dam weed and be done with it yu lazy twit!


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"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

Yea, check out how many Koi los are hewre, were like ****ing
rabbits...we multiply like they are going out of style.


Remebemer filter filter filter
On Mon, 15 May 2006 12:08:23 -0500, "Koi-Lo" > wrote:
>><>*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.*
>><> Disclaimer: I do not post from Goolge, Earthlink or Verizon.
>><>-----------
>><>"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>><>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:23:31 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>><>>>Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do with
>><>>>this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
>><>>>and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
>><>>>oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
>><>>>blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
>><>>>for one oscar. Help me Gill.
>><>>
>><>> Do you have a bathtub? That might do.
>><>>
>><>> -- Mister Gardener
>><>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>><>================
>><>He needs to check out the second hand stores for cheap used tanks. I've
>><>seen them as large as 100g+ here in Nashville. I passed up some good buys
>><>simply because I have no more space - NONE!


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[-ED]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 11:37:59 -0500, Mister Gardener
> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:23:31 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:42:22 -0500, Gill Passman
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Mister Gardener wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here...Water changing isn't any different from going to the
>>>>> store
>>>>> for
>>>>> something. It only takes a few minutes a week .............
>>>>> =============
>>>>> Not when you have two 55g tanks, four 10g tanks and 6 Betta tanks.
>>>>> It
>>>>> takes
>>>>> me two or three afternoons.
>>>> I don't think I'd be doing weekly water changes if I didn't have my
>>>> 35
>>>> foot Python Clone.
>>>> -- Mister Gardener
>>>> -- Pull the WEED to email me
>>>
>>> I still use buckets even on the 130g tank.....
>>>
>>> Another pleasure of course is going out and buying new fish....I've
>>> just
>>> been sitting watching my new aquisitions settling in to their new home
>>> -
>>> and yep, I relented, and am now the proud owner of 3 black angels.....
>>>
>>> Gill
>>
>> Ah man....You're killing me...I'm trying to figure out what I can do
>> with
>> this oscar and get me some black angels too !!! I'm assuming that oscars
>> and angels don't mix well, I haven't looked that up today. I know the
>> oscar needs a bigger tank where as the 55 would do ok for a pair of
>> blacks. And a pair of blacks would be alot cheaper than building a tank
>> for one oscar. Help me Gill.
>
> Do you have a bathtub? That might do.
>
>
The tub idea is looker better all the time. Who needs a shower anyway?


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[Koi-Lo]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:41:40 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 11:37:59 -0500, Mister Gardener
> wrote:
>><>
>><>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:23:31 GMT, -ED > wrote:
>><>>
>><>>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:42:22 -0500, Gill Passman
>><>>> > wrote:
>><>>>
>><>>>> Mister Gardener wrote:
>><>>>>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 00:02:51 -0500, "Karen Green" >
>><>>>>> wrote:
>><>>>>>
>><>>>>>> "-ED" > wrote in message
>><>>>>>> ...
snip a bunch of crap
er ah, well Ed, I really hate to say it, but you need a freaking
shower dude. your ass stinks like Carols breath.........wonder why,
you been kissing her ass again, ya old pervert? HINT HINT..dont give
up the tub or the shower.
>><>The tub idea is looker better all the time. Who needs a shower anyway?


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.*

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>
The tub idea is looker better all the time. Who needs a shower anyway?
================================
Who wants to look down on angelfish? You can put about 5 nice adult
Shubunkins in the tub. ;-)


Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
They can't get me fired. I'm retired.
They can't get my husband fired. He owns the Company.
They can't get me disfellowshipped because I left their Org.
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[Charlië]

*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.*

"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
>>I have a Python and use it to drain the 55s out the back door, but it
>>doesn't reach with the 10s. I wont waste water using the sink
>>water-pressure to drain them with. That's waste of potable water beyond
>>reason. I do need to get some kind of adapter to use it to fill the
>>tanks.
>>The original one was crap and cracked. I ordered another one and that one
>>also cracked after a few months. I want to see if I can get something
>>made
>>of brass at Lowe's or Home Depot. Now if I could only remember to take
>>the
>>hose with me........
===========================
> I don't use water pressure to drain my tanks, gravity does just fine
> through the python clone.

Yeah that works on my 55s but not the 10s since they're too far from the
doors and too low for the sinks.

The tanks are only a few inches higher than
> the sink in the next room, but that's enough to keep the siphon going.
> I've read about the outrageous amount of good water that a python
> wastes in proportion to the relatively small amount siphoned from the
> tanks.

I used it ONE TIME and the wastage was enough to make it the last time!

My water is expensive, I don't waste it, indoors or out. I use
> soaker hoses for all of my gardens, as well. I would be perfectly
> happy reducing the frequency of my showers, but Missus Gardener draws
> the line at that particular water saving action. Or inaction.

LOL! I'm sure my husband feels the same. :-D

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
They can't get me fired. I'm retired.
They can't get my husband fired. He owns the Company.
They can't get me disfellowshipped because I left their Org.
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[Gail Futoran]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
> big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
> looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
> Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
> to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
> fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>
> While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
> love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
> or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
> creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
> thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
> think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
> all interact and have their own little characters :-)
>
> All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>
> Gill

Pretty much like you do. Also, it's a lot
less stressful than, say, gardening - which
I also do. :)

Gail

[Gill Passman]

Gail Futoran wrote:
> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
>>big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
>>looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
>>Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
>>to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
>>fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>>
>>While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
>>love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
>>or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
>>creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
>>thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
>>think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
>>all interact and have their own little characters :-)
>>
>>All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>>
>>Gill
>
>
> Pretty much like you do. Also, it's a lot
> less stressful than, say, gardening - which
> I also do. :)
>
> Gail
>
>
Me too....

[-ED]

!!!!!


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[Koi-Lo]

I love to see then swellup when they are on a hot roadway or get dirt
in their gills when thrown in the compost pile...

On Tue, 16 May 2006 01:20:53 +0100, Gill Passman
> wrote:
>><>Gail Futoran wrote:
>><>> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
>><>> ...
>><>>
>><>>>Hi All,
>><>>>
>><>>>I was sitting down this morning just quietly watching the fish in the new
>><>>>big tank (130g)....a Panda Cory was sitting on a piece of driftwood
>><>>>looking like he was delivering a lecture to three, very attentive Clown
>><>>>Loaches sitting on the substrate facing him - then I saw the Pl*c glide in
>><>>>to find out what was going on...haven't seen him for over a week - these
>><>>>fish definitely seem to be plotting something....he, he
>><>>>
>><>>>While watching the fish I started musing about what it is exactly that I
>><>>>love the most about keeping fish....it certainly isn't the algae scraping
>><>>>or the water changes although I don't really mind doing them....I love
>><>>>creating the environments for them and tending the plants and looking at a
>><>>>thing of beauty that contains happy, content fish....but most of all I
>><>>>think I enjoy watching them going about their little lives and how they
>><>>>all interact and have their own little characters :-)
>><>>>
>><>>>All this set me to wonder how everyone else feels about their fish.....
>><>>>
>><>>>Gill
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> Pretty much like you do. Also, it's a lot
>><>> less stressful than, say, gardening - which
>><>> I also do. :)
>><>>
>><>> Gail
>><>>
>><>>
>><>Me too....


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Dick]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
wrote:

>
>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>====================
>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>nature and an occasional barking dog.
>
>If you are old or ill you can make plans for your dogs ahead of time at a
>no-kill shelter.

I don't mention TV because it is rarely on, mostly to catch the
evening news.

One thing about aging with relatively good health, hard to arrange for
a future. Further made difficult living in a small community. "No
kill shelter" may sound reasonable, but we don't even have a humane
society or a funeral parlor. Most of the available services are done
by individuals that may not be around when my need comes up. TV ads
make a bit of a do about financial planning. How do you plan when you
may live another 20 years, but old enough to die tomorrow (feeling
pretty good this morning <g>?

So planning for the fish and dogs is a continual concern. I may not
have a warning from some slow medical death. My dad was getting ready
for work one morning at the age of 52 when he had a thrombosis.

The fish are a very difficult problem. I bought everything via the
Internet. There are a few fish fanciers in town, but often they have
lost interest or don't want more. Besides, I don't think anyone can
care for my fish or dogs as I do, tongue in cheek of course.

dick

[Dick]

I am so sorry Carol that you feel you must defend yourself. I am sure
that is what the troll wants you to do. By your words you shall be
known.

Imagine the time and effort this poor soul/s is putting into this
crusade. Sad, sad, sad. So much anger. It seems the world is full
of such terror. Meaningless attacks bringing suffering to the world.

dick



On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:08:57 GMT, (Charlië)
wrote:

>I did not write that message:
>
>
>Note there are three Charlië on this forum.
>
>
>On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:55:34 GMT, (Charlië)
>wrote:
>>><>
>>><>Screw a TV I like to do it on the washer......with an unbalanced
>>><>oad.....UNbalanced just ike my mind is.
>>><>
>>><>
>>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
>>><>wrote:
>>><>>><>
>>><>>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>>><>>><>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>>><>>><>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>>><>>><>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>>><>>><>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>>><>>><>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>>><>>><>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>>><>>><>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>>><>>><>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>>><>>><>====================
>>><>>><>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>>><>>><>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>>><>>><>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>>><>>><>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>>><>>><>nature and an occasional barking dog. I use dogs for an early warning system. It tells me when the law is near
>>><>>><>
>>><>>><>
>>><>
>>><>==============================================
>>><>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>>><>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>>><>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>>><>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>>><>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>>><>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
>==============================================
>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

On Tue, 16 May 2006 05:04:47 -0500, Dick >
wrote:
>><>
>><>I am so sorry Carol that you feel you must defend yourself. I am sure
>><>that is what the troll wants you to do. By your words you shall be
>><>known.
>><>
>><>Imagine the time and effort this poor soul/s is putting into this
>><>crusade. Sad, sad, sad. So much anger. It seems the world is full
>><>of such terror. Meaningless attacks bringing suffering to the world.
>><>
>><>dick
>><>
>><>
>><>
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:08:57 GMT, (Charlië)
>><>wrote:
>><>
>><>>I did not write that message:
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>Note there are three Charlië on this forum.
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:55:34 GMT, (Charlië)
>><>>wrote:
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>Screw a TV I like to do it on the washer......with an unbalanced
>><>>>><>oad.....UNbalanced just ike my mind is.
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
>><>>>><>wrote:
>><>>>><>>><>
>><>>>><>>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>><>>>><>>><>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>><>>>><>>><>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>><>>>><>>><>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>><>>>><>>><>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>><>>>><>>><>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>><>>>><>>><>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>><>>>><>>><>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>><>>>><>>><>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>><>>>><>>><>====================
>><>>>><>>><>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>><>>>><>>><>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>><>>>><>>><>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>><>>>><>>><>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>><>>>><>>><>nature and an occasional barking dog. I use dogs for an early warning system. It tells me when the law is near
>><>>>><>>><>
>><>>>><>>><>
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>==============================================
>><>>>><>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>><>>>><>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>><>>>><>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>><>>>><>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>><>>>><>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>><>>>><>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>==============================================
>><>>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>><>>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>><>>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>><>>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>><>>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>><>>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

On Tue, 16 May 2006 04:59:38 -0500, Dick >
wrote:
>><>On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
>><>wrote:
>><>
>><>>
>><>>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>><>>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>><>>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>><>>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>><>>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>><>>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>><>>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>><>>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>><>>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>><>>====================
>><>>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>><>>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>><>>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>><>>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>><>>nature and an occasional barking dog.
>><>>
>><>>If you are old or ill you can make plans for your dogs ahead of time at a
>><>>no-kill shelter.
>><>
>><>I don't mention TV because it is rarely on, mostly to catch the
>><>evening news.
>><>
>><>One thing about aging with relatively good health, hard to arrange for
>><>a future. Further made difficult living in a small community. "No
>><>kill shelter" may sound reasonable, but we don't even have a humane
>><>society or a funeral parlor. Most of the available services are done
>><>by individuals that may not be around when my need comes up. TV ads
>><>make a bit of a do about financial planning. How do you plan when you
>><>may live another 20 years, but old enough to die tomorrow (feeling
>><>pretty good this morning <g>?
>><>
>><>So planning for the fish and dogs is a continual concern. I may not
>><>have a warning from some slow medical death. My dad was getting ready
>><>for work one morning at the age of 52 when he had a thrombosis.
>><>
>><>The fish are a very difficult problem. I bought everything via the
>><>Internet. There are a few fish fanciers in town, but often they have
>><>lost interest or don't want more. Besides, I don't think anyone can
>><>care for my fish or dogs as I do, tongue in cheek of course.
>><>
>><>dick


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.*

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>
> I am so sorry Carol that you feel you must defend yourself. I am sure
> that is what the troll wants you to do. By your words you shall be
> known.

This is true. If people quickly check headers they will see all the obscene
messages are from two trolls, one posting from
Earthlink.net and the other, hiding from his elders, a variety of services.

> Imagine the time and effort this poor soul/s is putting into this
> crusade. Sad, sad, sad. So much anger. It seems the world is full
> of such terror. Meaningless attacks bringing suffering to the world.

These meaningless attacks bring some kind of relief or satisfaction to these
people that they cannot achieve in normal ways. This is what teaching hate
and intolerance does to people. Mix in lack of education (ignorance) and
feelings of inferiority and there you go. Think how powerless this person
is and feels in real life that he must turn to a place like this to destroy
to gain power. Disrupting all these newsgroups and attacking a *female
senior citizen* makes him feel powerful and manly. But yes, I was advised
to use disclaimers and to defend myself from these unwholesome individuals.

Koi-Lo.
Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer:
Trolls. They can't get me fired. I'm retired.
They can't get my husband fired. He owns the Company.
They can't get me disfellowshipped because I left the Org.
I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Newsguy or Verizon.
Rude or obscene messages are not mine .
All messages under the name Carol or Randy Gulley are forgeries.
The person impersonating me is Roy Hauer of Hope Hull AL.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.*

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >also
> known as: Koi-Lo
> wrote:
>>>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and hearing
>>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>>nature and an occasional barking dog.
>>
>>If you are old or ill you can make plans for your dogs ahead of time at a
>>no-kill shelter.
>====================================
> I don't mention TV because it is rarely on, mostly to catch the
> evening news.
>
> One thing about aging with relatively good health, hard to arrange for
> a future. Further made difficult living in a small community.
"No
> kill shelter" may sound reasonable, but we don't even have a humane
> society or a funeral parlor. Most of the available services are done
> by individuals that may not be around when my need comes up. TV ads
> make a bit of a do about financial planning. How do you plan when you
> may live another 20 years, but old enough to die tomorrow (feeling
> pretty good this morning <g>?

I know what you mean. I'm also getting up in years and our plans go only so
far as moving back to town when this place is too much to take care of.

> So planning for the fish and dogs is a continual concern. I may not
> have a warning from some slow medical death. My dad was getting ready
> for work one morning at the age of 52 when he had a thrombosis.

We never know what tomorrow may bring. I do have a plan for my fish and
whatever pets will be here when my time comes. My stepdaughters will handle
everything if I'm a widow then. They're 100% dependable and trustworthy.
Both are fond of animals and that helps as well.

> The fish are a very difficult problem. I bought everything via the
> Internet. There are a few fish fanciers in town, but often they have
> lost interest or don't want more. Besides, I don't think anyone can
> care for my fish or dogs as I do, tongue in cheek of course.
>
> dick

Koi-Lo....
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They can't get my husband fired. He owns the Company.
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:30:12 -0500, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:
>><>*Note: There are several *assholes* on the pond and aquaria groups.*
>><>But I Carol Gulley of Mt. Julliet, TN is the head asshole.

>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>><>>
>><>> I am so glad Carol that you must defend yourself. I am sure
>><>> that is what you love to do. By your words you shall be
>><>> known, as the USENETs kook of the century.
>><>
>><>This is true. If people quickly check headers they will see all the obscene
>><>messages are from from me and that I am worthless indeed.
>><>Free usenets servers are my choice as well as, hiding from my peers,..
>><>
>><>> Imagine the time and effort these poor ****ers are putting into this
>><>> crusade to try and silence me. Sad, sad, sad. So much anger, I have inside of me, and It seems the world is full
>><>> of such dumbassesr. Meaningless attacks bringing suffering to the world, but they get me off.
>><>
>><>These meaningless attacks bring some kind of relief or satisfaction to me and other
>><>people that they cannot achieve orgasims in normal ways. This is what teaching love
>><>and tolerance does to people. Mix in lack of education (ignorance) and
>><>feelings of inferiority and there you go. No more getting my rocks off. Think how powerfull I am
>><> in real life that I, Carol Gulley must turn to a place like this to destroy
>><>to gain power. Disrupting all these newsgroups and attacking all who visit here
>>-<>makes me feel powerful and uncastrated. But yes, I was advised
>><>to use disclaimers and to defend myself from these wholesome individuals.
>><>But when your addicted to dick like me, its had to quit.
>><>Koi-Lo.
>><>Being a ho since 1952. Being an asshole since 1950
>>-<>Being an dumb**** since I was born
>><>My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/87998
>>-<>My naked pics and porn pics http://pornamerica.com
>><>Disclaimer:
>>-<>Who need a disclaimer I am the ****ing pond queen

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On Tue, 16 May 2006 05:04:47 -0500, Dick > wrote:

>
> I am so sorry Carol that you feel you must defend yourself. I am sure
> that is what the troll wants you to do. By your words you shall be
> known.
>
> Imagine the time and effort this poor soul/s is putting into this
> crusade. Sad, sad, sad. So much anger. It seems the world is full
> of such terror. Meaningless attacks bringing suffering to the world.
>
> dick
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:08:57 GMT, (Charlië)
> wrote:
>
>> I did not write that message:
>>
>>
>> Note there are three Charlië on this forum.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:55:34 GMT, (Charlië)
>> wrote:
>>>> <>
>>>> <>Screw a TV I like to do it on the washer......with an unbalanced
>>>> <>oad.....UNbalanced just ike my mind is.
>>>> <>
>>>> <>
>>>> <>On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië
>>>> >
>>>> <>wrote:
>>>> <>>><>
>>>> <>>><>"Dick" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> <>>><>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I
>>>> lose
>>>> <>>><>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just
>>>> having
>>>> <>>><>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my
>>>> computer
>>>> <>>><>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as
>>>> graphs which
>>>> <>>><>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>>>> <>>><>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes
>>>> worry
>>>> <>>><>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all
>>>> I think
>>>> <>>><>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>>>> <>>><>====================
>>>> <>>><>Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited
>>>> anyone who
>>>> <>>><>didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm
>>>> alone here I
>>>> <>>><>often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving
>>>> and hearing
>>>> <>>><>human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the
>>>> sounds of
>>>> <>>><>nature and an occasional barking dog. I use dogs for an early
>>>> warning system. It tells me when the law is near
>>>> <>>><>
>>>> <>>><>
>>>> <>
>>>> <>==============================================
>>>> <>Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>>>> <>"The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>>>> <>given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>>>> <>my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>>>> <>only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>>>> <>~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>
>>
>>
>> ==============================================
>> Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
>> "The original frugal ponder.."Since my statements are
>> given freely, take em or leave em, I am entitled to
>> my opinion none the less. My opinion and $1 is still
>> only worth $1.....but I am entitled to "MY" opinion...
>> ~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>
>



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On Tue, 16 May 2006 04:59:38 -0500, Dick > wrote:

> On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:41:58 -0500, Charlië >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I do enjoy the scenery. There is no place in my home that I lose
>>> sight of at least one of my five tanks, but I also enjoy just having
>>> motion going on. I have a ceiling fan in 3 rooms, one of my computer
>>> monitors real time weather information a presents it as graphs which
>>> constantly change (imagine the excitement of watching the wind
>>> direction and speed change) and then my 2 dogs. I sometimes worry
>>> about the day I can no longer take care of them. Most of all I think
>>> I will miss the activity of something happening.
>> ====================
>> Odd you didn't mention a TV. I don't think I've ever visited anyone who
>> didn't have a TV playing somewhere in the house. When I'm alone here I
>> often have the TV on for no other reason than something moving and
>> hearing
>> human voices. I live out in the country so all I hear are the sounds of
>> nature and an occasional barking dog.
>>
>> If you are old or ill you can make plans for your dogs ahead of time at
>> a
>> no-kill shelter.
>
> I don't mention TV because it is rarely on, mostly to catch the
> evening news.
>
> One thing about aging with relatively good health, hard to arrange for
> a future. Further made difficult living in a small community. "No
> kill shelter" may sound reasonable, but we don't even have a humane
> society or a funeral parlor. Most of the available services are done
> by individuals that may not be around when my need comes up. TV ads
> make a bit of a do about financial planning. How do you plan when you
> may live another 20 years, but old enough to die tomorrow (feeling
> pretty good this morning <g>?
>
> So planning for the fish and dogs is a continual concern. I may not
> have a warning from some slow medical death. My dad was getting ready
> for work one morning at the age of 52 when he had a thrombosis.
>
> The fish are a very difficult problem. I bought everything via the
> Internet. There are a few fish fanciers in town, but often they have
> lost interest or don't want more. Besides, I don't think anyone can
> care for my fish or dogs as I do, tongue in cheek of course.
>
> dick



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