Best fish for alkaline water

[Frederick B. Henry Jr.]

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So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.

The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
for this very hard/alkaline water?

TIA,

Fred

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On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
> wrote:

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> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
>
> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
> for this very hard/alkaline water?

What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
up since then.

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"Frederick B. Henry Jr." > wrote in message
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> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
>
> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
> for this very hard/alkaline water?
--Alphonse Allais
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My water is off the test-stick as far as hardness goes. The African Cichlids
thrived for me. But I also had clown-loaches, plecos, bettas and angelfish
do well.
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[Frederick B. Henry Jr.]

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On 2006-05-15, -ED > wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
> wrote:
>
>> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
>> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
>> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
>>
>> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
>> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
>> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
>> for this very hard/alkaline water?
>
> What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
> answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
> up since then.

Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.


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[Charles]

On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:08:13 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
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>On 2006-05-15, -ED > wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
> wrote:
>>
>>> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
>>> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
>>> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
>>>
>>> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
>>> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
>>> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
>>> for this very hard/alkaline water?
>>
>> What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
>> answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
>> up since then.
>
>Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
>
>

Livebearers, guppies, platties, swordtails would do well in that
water. I'm partial to Endler's Livebearers.

Central American cichlids, but most of them that I know about get
rather large.

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"Frederick B. Henry Jr." > wrote in message
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> Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
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Oh, then forget the cichlids. Stick to smaller fish like the livebearers.
As for plants, the hornwart does well in really hard alkaline water and
doesn't need a lot of light and extra fertilizer.
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[Frederick B. Henry Jr.]

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On 2006-05-16, Koi-Lo > wrote:
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> "Frederick B. Henry Jr." > wrote in message
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>> Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
>=====================
> Oh, then forget the cichlids. Stick to smaller fish like the livebearers.
> As for plants, the hornwart does well in really hard alkaline water and
> doesn't need a lot of light and extra fertilizer.
> --

Thank you all for the advice! It is indeed a huge help. Aside from
the-troll-who-shall-remain-nameless, this group has been a huge help to
me as a beginner.

Cheers,

Fred
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[Jim Anderson]

In article >, Charles says...

> On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:08:13 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
> > wrote:
>
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> >On 2006-05-15, -ED > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
> >>> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
> >>> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
> >>>
> >>> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
> >>> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
> >>> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
> >>> for this very hard/alkaline water?
> >>
> >> What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
> >> answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
> >> up since then.
> >
> >Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
> >
> >
>
> Livebearers, guppies, platties, swordtails would do well in that
> water. I'm partial to Endler's Livebearers.
>
> Central American cichlids, but most of them that I know about get
> rather large.
>

Only seen Endlers at one LFS, a 15 USG long with about 1,000 @ <1/2
inch, all males. An amazing sight to behold.
<http://badmanstropicalfish.com/who/mystery_september_04.jpg> This is
the color morf, red instead of orange with just a touch of purple and
that beautiful emerald green.
I suppose no females, so no one cuts into his supply chain?

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[Charles]

On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:03:34 GMT, Jim Anderson
> wrote:

>In article >, Charles says...
>
>> On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:08:13 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
>> > wrote:
>>
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>> >On 2006-05-15, -ED > wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
>> >>> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
>> >>> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
>> >>>
>> >>> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
>> >>> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
>> >>> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
>> >>> for this very hard/alkaline water?
>> >>
>> >> What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
>> >> answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
>> >> up since then.
>> >
>> >Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Livebearers, guppies, platties, swordtails would do well in that
>> water. I'm partial to Endler's Livebearers.
>>
>> Central American cichlids, but most of them that I know about get
>> rather large.
>>
>
>Only seen Endlers at one LFS, a 15 USG long with about 1,000 @ <1/2
>inch, all males. An amazing sight to behold.
><http://badmanstropicalfish.com/who/mystery_september_04.jpg> This is
>the color morf, red instead of orange with just a touch of purple and
>that beautiful emerald green.
>I suppose no females, so no one cuts into his supply chain?

The males only trick has been going for quite a while, females are out
there, I've given mixed males and females to a couple shops.

Mail order works well. Aquabid,

http://swampriveraquatics.com/,

Tampa fish man can be reached at

site for general interest:

http://www.endlersr.us/

[Jim Anderson]

In article >, Charles says...

> On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:03:34 GMT, Jim Anderson
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Charles says...
> >
> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:08:13 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
> >> > wrote:
> >>
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> >> >On 2006-05-15, -ED > wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:17:10 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr.
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> So my tank is still gradually cycling. The ammonia isn't spiking, and
> >> >>> is hovering just over 1 ppm, while the nitrite is about 0.5 ppm and the
> >> >>> nitrate at 20 ppm. I have been continuing with very limited feeding.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The pH of the tank is about 7.7 or 8. Our water is very hard. Since I
> >> >>> don't wish to manipulate the pH, would cichlids be a better fit than the
> >> >>> tetras and rasboras I have currently? Could anyone recommend good fish
> >> >>> for this very hard/alkaline water?
> >> >>
> >> >> What was your tank size again, Fred? Knowing this would help post some
> >> >> answers. You probably mentioned the tank before, but I've cleaned postings
> >> >> up since then.
> >> >
> >> >Just a 10g starter tank, but I plan to expand.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Livebearers, guppies, platties, swordtails would do well in that
> >> water. I'm partial to Endler's Livebearers.
> >>
> >> Central American cichlids, but most of them that I know about get
> >> rather large.
> >>
> >
> >Only seen Endlers at one LFS, a 15 USG long with about 1,000 @ <1/2
> >inch, all males. An amazing sight to behold.
> ><http://badmanstropicalfish.com/who/mystery_september_04.jpg> This is
> >the color morf, red instead of orange with just a touch of purple and
> >that beautiful emerald green.
> >I suppose no females, so no one cuts into his supply chain?
>
> The males only trick has been going for quite a while, females are out
> there, I've given mixed males and females to a couple shops.
>
> Mail order works well. Aquabid,
>
> http://swampriveraquatics.com/,
>
> Tampa fish man can be reached at
>
> site for general interest:
>
> http://www.endlersr.us/
>

Thanks Charles

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"Frederick B. Henry Jr." > wrote in message
...
>
> On 2006-05-16, Koi-Lo > wrote:
>> Oh, then forget the cichlids. Stick to smaller fish like the
>> livebearers.
>> As for plants, the hornwart does well in really hard alkaline water and
>> doesn't need a lot of light and extra fertilizer.

> Thank you all for the advice! It is indeed a huge help. Aside from
> the-troll-who-shall-remain-nameless, this group has been a huge help to
> me as a beginner.
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