Tank pics and Pleco question.

[JeffinMS]

I posted a while back about my Pleco getting pretty large. I would say he is
somewhere from tip to tail about 7 inches long now, maybe 8. I posted online
for a new home for him but nothing seems sufficient to hold this fish
considering how big he might get. I have a local pet store who offered to
take him and give me store credit for some other fish. I am thinking about
doing this. OTOH, if he isnt too big for the tank then I might just keep
him. Problem is he has definitly outgrown his sleeping quarters. Half the
fish sticks out when he tries to go in to hide. The local fish store gave me
a large 10 gallon bucket to put him in and bring him back to thier store.
But I also dont want to distress the fish so much that he dies. Hate to kill
it when its thriving in my tank. Here is a link to some pictures of my tank.
They arent too clear but you can see the Pleco and the tank. Would be
interested in anyones opinion (take the Pleco to the Fish Stor-Yes? No?) and
what changes they might make to this tank if it were theirs. Here's the
link, just click on the thumbnails to enlarge, Thanks. J

http://tinyurl.com/qhzav

[Roy]

Take a hike Jeff were talking serious **** here.........come back when
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[Koi-Lo]

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"JeffinMS" > wrote in message
...
Would be
> interested in anyones opinion (take the Pleco to the Fish Stor-Yes? No?)
> and what changes they might make to this tank if it were theirs. Here's
> the link, just click on the thumbnails to enlarge, Thanks. J
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He doesn't look like he outgrew the tank to me. And he looks healthy! :-)
I would keep him a little longer.

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[Koi-Lo]

On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:29:26 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
> wrote:

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The Koi lo that is acrtually Carol Gulley is the problem Koi
Lo.......she often times poses and posts as Roy or Fex of M---F but
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know I already answered your question a few minmtes ago, but trust me
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that are just simply a heaven for erroneous info and the chance to get
your email address harvested for future mailings of spam.....


Keep the fish....nothing at all wrong with it when its at. Or get a
small outside half barrel and put it out there as they do great
outside in the summer, with a simple box filter and pump and throw in
a water lilly and its a happy camper.....Your in Mississippi and the
temp outsid efor tropicals is just great 9 mopnths out of the
year.......give that a try for a new exciting way to keep tropicals...




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WORK HARDER, Carol Gulleys grandsons welfare income depends on it!

[dc]

"JeffinMS" > wrote in
:

> interested in anyones opinion (take the Pleco to the Fish Stor-Yes?
> No?) and what changes they might make to this tank if it were theirs.
> Here's the link, just click on the thumbnails to enlarge, Thanks. J

It is very hard to tell from the photos what sort of pleco you have. To
take a guess by the large spotted under-markings it is probably some form
of ultra-common Hypostomus sp.. If that is the case you can look forward to
this fish getting well over twice its current size. We have some trade-ins
at the store that are nearing 3' and are kept in huge ponds with our koi.

If you want to keep it a good while longer I would suggest getting a bigger
tank--the longer the better--or at least redesigning your tank around the
fish. Hypostomus plecos, like most other Loricariidae are river fish. If
you want to simulate the environment from which it was captured you should
add a powerhead to increase current and then build lots of caves and nooks
for the fish to hide in using driftwood and smooth rocks.

That said, these fish are extremely adaptable provided there is a lot of
oxygen and sufficient food. Your fish will probably be content in the tank
you have until he becomes too large to turn and maneuver without serious
difficulty.

If you trade in your fish it is very likely it will end up in a pond at
some point. At the size your pleco is now it is possible someone may buy
your fish to keep a large cichlid tank clean, but we only sell the really
big *******s (18" or so) to people who want them to eat the sludge on the
bottom of their outdoor ponds.

If you do trade in I suggest you look to get a L104 Clown Pleco (Panaque
maccus) as a replacement, provided you have at least some driftwood in your
tank. These little plecos are usually cheap and don't grow beyond 3", but
like most Panaque they require a lot of fiber in their diet in the form of
wood fiber to survive long term.

An even more stellar Panaque would be the L204 Flash Pleco--if you can find
them for sale. I have a collection of these guys I bought a year ago, and
though they get slightly larger than the clown, they are very striking.

[Tynk]

Koi-Lo wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:29:26 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
> > wrote:
>
> Note: There are not several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups
> Koi Lo known by the real name of CArol Gulley is a nym shifter, adn is
> prone to stealing posts and nyms. The Koi lo with the excessivley oong
> signature is the imposter, as she tries to get attention off her by
> her use of long signatures and lead in titles as such........pay her
> no attention.
>
> The Koi lo that is acrtually Carol Gulley is the problem Koi
> Lo.......she often times poses and posts as Roy or Fex of M---F but
> all those posters are nice people and.......Roy is a heck of a nice
> guy. That as her that posted that reply to stay away previously.... I
> know I already answered your question a few minmtes ago, but trust me
> n this, go to a real web based forum for best possible answers to yur
> questions instead of asking these skrewballs inthese usenet forums
> that are just simply a heaven for erroneous info and the chance to get
> your email address harvested for future mailings of spam.....
>
>
> Keep the fish....nothing at all wrong with it when its at. Or get a
> small outside half barrel and put it out there as they do great
> outside in the summer, with a simple box filter and pump and throw in
> a water lilly and its a happy camper.....Your in Mississippi and the
> temp outsid efor tropicals is just great 9 mopnths out of the
> year.......give that a try for a new exciting way to keep tropicals...
>
>
>
>
> ================================================== ==
> WORK HARDER, Carol Gulleys grandsons welfare income depends on it!

What a bunch of bull****!
It's so sad that idiots like this "Roy" have to disguise themsleves as
others.
Don't believe any of the crap by this person.
He has ruined this newsgroup for everyone.
He took the actual Koi-Lo's name and is using it and posting as if he
were her.
He and his other freaks have killed this newsgroup.
So much so, that we had to move the group!
Just look at the crap that is listed for topics.
It's idiots like this guy who steals screen names and claims to be
somebody else.
What a coward!
Doesn't have the balls to stand behind his true identity.
A true coward.

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 19:01:47 -0500, Tynk > wrote:

>
> Koi-Lo wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:29:26 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Note: There are not several *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups
>> Koi Lo known by the real name of CArol Gulley is a nym shifter, adn is
>> prone to stealing posts and nyms. The Koi lo with the excessivley oong
>> signature is the imposter, as she tries to get attention off her by
>> her use of long signatures and lead in titles as such........pay her
>> no attention.
>>
>> The Koi lo that is acrtually Carol Gulley is the problem Koi
>> Lo.......she often times poses and posts as Roy or Fex of M---F but
>> all those posters are nice people and.......Roy is a heck of a nice
>> guy. That as her that posted that reply to stay away previously.... I
>> know I already answered your question a few minmtes ago, but trust me
>> n this, go to a real web based forum for best possible answers to yur
>> questions instead of asking these skrewballs inthese usenet forums
>> that are just simply a heaven for erroneous info and the chance to get
>> your email address harvested for future mailings of spam.....
>>
>>
>> Keep the fish....nothing at all wrong with it when its at. Or get a
>> small outside half barrel and put it out there as they do great
>> outside in the summer, with a simple box filter and pump and throw in
>> a water lilly and its a happy camper.....Your in Mississippi and the
>> temp outsid efor tropicals is just great 9 mopnths out of the
>> year.......give that a try for a new exciting way to keep tropicals....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ================================================== ==
>> WORK HARDER, Carol Gulleys grandsons welfare income depends on it!
>
> What a bunch of bull****!
> It's so sad that idiots like this "Roy" have to disguise themsleves as
> others.
> Don't believe any of the crap by this person.
> He has ruined this newsgroup for everyone.
> He took the actual Koi-Lo's name and is using it and posting as if he
> were her.
> He and his other freaks have killed this newsgroup.
> So much so, that we had to move the group!
> Just look at the crap that is listed for topics.
> It's idiots like this guy who steals screen names and claims to be
> somebody else.
> What a coward!
> Doesn't have the balls to stand behind his true identity.
> A true coward.
>

Look Familiar?

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

On Wed, 31 May 2006 19:01:47 -0500, Tynk > wrote:

> What a bunch of bull****!
> It's so sad that idiots like this "Roy" have to disguise themsleves as
> others.
> Don't believe any of the crap by this person.
> He has ruined this newsgroup for everyone.
> He took the actual Koi-Lo's name and is using it and posting as if he
> were her.
> He and his other freaks have killed this newsgroup.
> So much so, that we had to move the group!
> Just look at the crap that is listed for topics.
> It's idiots like this guy who steals screen names and claims to be
> somebody else.
> What a coward!
> Doesn't have the balls to stand behind his true identity.
> A true coward.
>

Look Familiar?
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[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Tynk" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> What a bunch of bull****!
> It's so sad that idiots like this "Roy" have to disguise themsleves as
> others.
> Don't believe any of the crap by this person.
> He has ruined this newsgroup for everyone.
> He took the actual Koi-Lo's name and is using it and posting as if he
> were her.
> He and his other freaks have killed this newsgroup.
> So much so, that we had to move the group!
> Just look at the crap that is listed for topics.
> It's idiots like this guy who steals screen names and claims to be
> somebody else.
> What a coward!
> Doesn't have the balls to stand behind his true identity.
> A true coward.
===========================
Thank you. A brave voice of reason in the wilderness.

I suppose he'll claim it's "my fault" he's now cross-posting, attacking
others and flooding other NGs I don't even lurk on, no less post on.
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http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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