Does anyone have any CORALINE ALGAE scrapings i can have

[Allisons Inc]

Does anyone have any CORALINE ALGAE scrapings I can have,

regards Craig



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[Roy]

I hate to say it, but IMNSHO seeding with coraline scrapings is a
myth. Coraline is gonna grow wi8thn or without it in there if the
water / tanaks parameters are right. Proper PH, temp, light, alk and
cal levels and SG, and it will grow all by itself. I initiated some
nice coraline al within a months time in a brand new tank which used
mainly lots of old bleached in chlorox rock that came from the ocean,
that was not in water in over 20+ years..it was totally snow white. I
used dead aragonite sand.......there was really nothing alinve that
died that was needed to cause a cycle to start and after 8 days no
ammonia or nitrite was found.......I added a small piece of liverock
with just a hint of coraline on it, that was perhaps 1, 1.5# to the
tank to seed it all and within a month had coraline growing on the
glass, filter tubesl power head and the rock that wsa white as snow
was now taking on a pinkish hue.....
Same thing for the additives like Purple up......it jmay accelerate
the coraline, but its not sa stong a growth and is more prone to
turnng whte than naturally accumulated coraline is.

Of course all the above is my experience and opinion tak eit for what
its worth.....but I certainbly do not have any faith in seeding
coraline, nor have faith in 99% of the supplemennts for nayhtng out
there except perhaps Caolcium....All the rest IMNSHO is snakeoils and
gimicks.
On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:40:42 -0700, "Allisons Inc"
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>><>Does anyone have any CORALINE ALGAE scrapings I can have,
>><>
>><>regards Craig
>><>
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I think that adding the "small piece of liverock with just a hint of
coraline on it" is what one might call "seeding". Obviously the
genetic instructions for how to create coraline algae is not just going
to spontaniously form inside of biochemical machinery capable of
reproduction within a couple of weeks just because the chemistry of the
environment is hospitable to the growth of such an organism. If you
have a tank that totally, absolutly lacks any form of coraline algae
then it is not going to magically appear unless you add it to the tank,
at which point if the proper conditions exist it will be fruitful and
multiply.

Blake.

[Roy]

Its a big topic on lots of the web based forums on getting coraline to
grow by the scrape / seed method. Theory has it that if you scrape the
coraline off the glass etc, and collect it, and place it in another
tank it spawns new coraline growth, or the mere process of using a
tooth brush to scrub coraline promotes it to spawn more.......I have a
tank (10 gal) I use for aQT, but as of late I have been keeping sand
in it. The sand wsa removed from an established tank I reduced the
sand be in, to 1" or so deep, and I did not want that sand to die off
on me. No live rock but there is a heap of that sand in there that has
pink scrapings from coraline in and there is not the first hint of
coraline growing anywhere in that tank like powerhead , filter intake
tubes / overflow weir etc......nowhere..Its been that way perhaps 8
months.......
On 20 May 2006 15:47:55 -0700, "
> wrote:
>><>I think that adding the "small piece of liverock with just a hint of
>><>coraline on it" is what one might call "seeding". Obviously the
>><>genetic instructions for how to create coraline algae is not just going
>><>to spontaniously form inside of biochemical machinery capable of
>><>reproduction within a couple of weeks just because the chemistry of the
>><>environment is hospitable to the growth of such an organism. If you
>><>have a tank that totally, absolutly lacks any form of coraline algae
>><>then it is not going to magically appear unless you add it to the tank,
>><>at which point if the proper conditions exist it will be fruitful and
>><>multiply.
>><>
>><>Blake.

[Thomas Bartkus]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I think that adding the "small piece of liverock with just a hint of
> coraline on it" is what one might call "seeding". Obviously the
> genetic instructions for how to create coraline algae is not just going
> to spontaniously form inside of biochemical machinery capable of
> reproduction within a couple of weeks just because the chemistry of the
> environment is hospitable to the growth of such an organism. If you
> have a tank that totally, absolutly lacks any form of coraline algae
> then it is not going to magically appear unless you add it to the tank,
> at which point if the proper conditions exist it will be fruitful and
> multiply.
>

You won't even get dandelions to grow unless you get at least one dandelion
seed from somewhere ;-)
Thomas Bartkus

[A. Paul Ing]

On Mon, 22 May 2006 15:55:37 -0500, "Thomas Bartkus"
> wrote:
>><>
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>><>> I think that adding the "small piece of liverock with just a hint of
>><>> coraline on it" is what one might call "seeding". Obviously the
>><>> genetic instructions for how to create coraline algae is not just going
>><>> to spontaniously form inside of biochemical machinery capable of
>><>> reproduction within a couple of weeks just because the chemistry of the
>><>> environment is hospitable to the growth of such an organism. If you
>><>> have a tank that totally, absolutly lacks any form of coraline algae
>><>> then it is not going to magically appear unless you add it to the tank,
>><>> at which point if the proper conditions exist it will be fruitful and
>><>> multiply.
>><>>
>><>
>><>You won't even get dandelions to grow unless you get at least one dandelion
>><>seed from somewhere ;-)
>><>Thomas Bartkus
>><>

I dunno about that. I had a 2 gal pico that had plain whie sand from
the beaches on the gulf of mexico i the panhandle, no live rock and
just a piece of bleached white coral that was at one time purchased
from a souviner shop many many years ago (probably around 1965 or so)
and in no time that piece of long dead bleached white coral had nice
pink hue to it, and in short order it started to get deeper darker
pinks and purple colors to it.......Now there may have been a tiny
spec of coraline in that beach sand, but coraline is not a very common
item in that area to be found......I found it kind of odd. BUt
generally what you say is correct you need something of what ever yur
looking to propagate if yu expect it to appear.

[Cindy]

Its a big topic on lots of the web based forums on getting coraline to
grow by the scrape / seed method. Theory has it that if you scrape the
coraline off the glass etc, and collect it, and place it in another
tank it spawns new coraline growth, or the mere process of using a
tooth brush to scrub coraline promotes it to spawn more.......I have a
tank (10 gal) I use for aQT, but as of late I have been keeping sand
in it. The sand wsa removed from an established tank I reduced the
sand be in, to 1" or so deep, and I did not want that sand to die off
on me. No live rock but there is a heap of that sand in there that has
pink scrapings from coraline in and there is not the first hint of
coraline growing anywhere in that tank like powerhead , filter intake
tubes / overflow weir etc......nowhere..Its been that way perhaps 8
months.......

Do you have light on it?

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I wouldn't be surprised if the algae can survive in a dormant form for
many years waiting for the right conditions. Besides, just because you
didn't see it go in didn't mean it didn't. How many of us saw the
first piece of green hair algae, pest anemone, or red slime we
introduced to our tanks?

[Sanderson9]

I found that the best way to seed a rock was to put it touching a rock that
already has coralline algae on it and after a couple months it starts to
grow onto the new rock. I have a lot of red coralline and pink, the red
comes when there is a darker corner of the tank. You must have good lights
for coraline. Don't get to fed up, Coraline is bad news for your glass it
is very difficult to shift, so when you do get your tank to seed make sure
you have a good scraper.

sanderson9

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I wouldn't be surprised if the algae can survive in a dormant form for
> many years waiting for the right conditions. Besides, just because you
> didn't see it go in didn't mean it didn't. How many of us saw the
> first piece of green hair algae, pest anemone, or red slime we
> introduced to our tanks?
>