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FishNut
March 24th 04, 10:22 PM
Hi,

I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:

My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed the
turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I brought
online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon tank,
1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.

My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
..1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time period
and my usage was only 1553 KWH.

Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started blow
drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
would be appreciated.

Dick
March 25th 04, 11:29 AM
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:22:58 GMT, "FishNut" > wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>
>My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
>turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed the
>turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I brought
>online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon tank,
>1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
>filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>
>My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
>.1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time period
>and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>
>Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started blow
>drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
>totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
>would be appreciated.
>
You sure are paying a lot for a kwh. My rate is $.077/kwh.

Limnophile
March 25th 04, 12:07 PM
The total wattage of your aquarium equipment is about 500 watts, this is 0.5
kilowatt. 0.5 kilowatts X 24 hrs/day X 30 days in a month = about 360 KWH .

Was this winter colder than it was last year in your area ? If you have
electric heat , or your furnace has an electric blower ( most do) your bill
could go up quite a bit.

"FishNut" > wrote in message
. net...
> Hi,
>
> I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>
> My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
> turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
the
> turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
brought
> online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
tank,
> 1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
> filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>
> My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
> .1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
period
> and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>
> Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
blow
> drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
> totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
> would be appreciated.
>
>

Dan J. S.
March 25th 04, 03:01 PM
"FishNut" > wrote in message
. net...
> Hi,
>
> I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>
> My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
> turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
the
> turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
brought
> online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
tank,
> 1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
> filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>
> My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
> .1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
period
> and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>
> Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
blow
> drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
> totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
> would be appreciated.
>
>

I would investigate the wife. Why is she blow drying the hair? Why the
change in lifestyle? Does she have a boyfriend who is keeping the fridge
open while searching for cold beers? I believe this will lead to answers.

luminos
March 26th 04, 07:28 AM
"FishNut" > wrote in message
. net...
> Hi,
>
> I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>
> My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
> turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
the
> turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
brought
> online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
tank,
> 1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
> filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>
> My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
> .1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
period
> and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>
> Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
blow
> drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
> totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
> would be appreciated.
>
>

I have had similar problems. I am convinced that the electric company is
dishonest. I have pulled documents, had investigations, etc. but they
always say something had to change in my situation. What? Little did. I
think they are crooks. Or something is wrong elsehwere.

They tell me: It's your refrigerator: I say: Hasn't changed in 3 years.

Well, you have more stuff in the refrigerator: Hasn't changed.

Do you have air conditioning: Yes, hasn't changed. Has been serviced and
verified efficient.

You must have more lights on...I was gone for two months, with power
off...explain that....they left without comment.

If your bill is for two months, you probably have California electric....

Velvet
March 26th 04, 08:57 AM
luminos wrote:

> "FishNut" > wrote in message
> . net...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>>
>>My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
>>turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
>
> the
>
>>turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
>
> brought
>
>>online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
>
> tank,
>
>>1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper 10
>>filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>>
>>My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH at
>>.1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
>
> period
>
>>and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>>
>>Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
>
> blow
>
>>drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
>>totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any advice
>>would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
> I have had similar problems. I am convinced that the electric company is
> dishonest. I have pulled documents, had investigations, etc. but they
> always say something had to change in my situation. What? Little did. I
> think they are crooks. Or something is wrong elsehwere.
>
> They tell me: It's your refrigerator: I say: Hasn't changed in 3 years.
>
> Well, you have more stuff in the refrigerator: Hasn't changed.
>
> Do you have air conditioning: Yes, hasn't changed. Has been serviced and
> verified efficient.
>
> You must have more lights on...I was gone for two months, with power
> off...explain that....they left without comment.
>
> If your bill is for two months, you probably have California electric....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Do you guys not have meters on your property (or on the boundary)?

We do in the UK, so we can work out from the bill and the meter if what
they are billing for is right, and then if it is, you know there *is*
something that's sucking more juice than there used to be.

One meter per house/dwelling/flat.

If this isn't the case out there, how on earth do they have ANY idea how
much you're using?

Velvet

luminos
March 26th 04, 09:47 AM
"Velvet" > wrote in message
...
> luminos wrote:
>
> > "FishNut" > wrote in message
> > . net...
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
> >>
> >>My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
> >>turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
> >
> > the
> >
> >>turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
> >
> > brought
> >
> >>online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
> >
> > tank,
> >
> >>1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper
10
> >>filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
> >>
> >>My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH
at
> >>.1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
> >
> > period
> >
> >>and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
> >>
> >>Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
> >
> > blow
> >
> >>drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
> >>totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any
advice
> >>would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I have had similar problems. I am convinced that the electric company
is
> > dishonest. I have pulled documents, had investigations, etc. but they
> > always say something had to change in my situation. What? Little did.
I
> > think they are crooks. Or something is wrong elsehwere.
> >
> > They tell me: It's your refrigerator: I say: Hasn't changed in 3
years.
> >
> > Well, you have more stuff in the refrigerator: Hasn't changed.
> >
> > Do you have air conditioning: Yes, hasn't changed. Has been serviced
and
> > verified efficient.
> >
> > You must have more lights on...I was gone for two months, with power
> > off...explain that....they left without comment.
> >
> > If your bill is for two months, you probably have California
electric....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Do you guys not have meters on your property (or on the boundary)?
>
> We do in the UK, so we can work out from the bill and the meter if what
> they are billing for is right, and then if it is, you know there *is*
> something that's sucking more juice than there used to be.
>
> One meter per house/dwelling/flat.
>
> If this isn't the case out there, how on earth do they have ANY idea how
> much you're using?
>
> Velvet

We have a meter per unit. They are, however here, locked up and cannot be
read by the tenants.

Velvet
March 26th 04, 10:02 AM
luminos wrote:

> "Velvet" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>luminos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"FishNut" > wrote in message
. net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I finally found my bill with all the facts: Here goes:
>>>>
>>>>My last bill was for 61 days. I set up two tanks in this time and has a
>>>>turtle tank that has been running for almost a year. I actually removed
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>turtle heater and used it for the smaller fish tank. Things that I
>>>
>>>brought
>>>
>>>
>>>>online in this time are: 1 250 watt Ebo Jager heater for a 55 gallon
>>>
>>>tank,
>>>
>>>
>>>>1 XP3 filter (pull about 28 watts), 2 Hagen powerheads and one Whisper
>
> 10
>
>>>>filter (for a 5 gallon tank) and 4 32 watt fluorescent bulbs.
>>>>
>>>>My actual usage was 2847 KWH and last year it was 1759. I used 508 KWH
>
> at
>
>>>>.1249 and 2339 KWH at .1179. I pulled last year's bill for this time
>>>
>>>period
>>>
>>>
>>>>and my usage was only 1553 KWH.
>>>>
>>>>Since I setup my 55 gallon tank my usage has doubled. My wife started
>>>
>>>blow
>>>
>>>
>>>>drying her hair but that is only for 5 minutes each morning. I'm
>>>>totally dazed by this new bill and am not sure what to think. Any
>
> advice
>
>>>>would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have had similar problems. I am convinced that the electric company
>
> is
>
>>>dishonest. I have pulled documents, had investigations, etc. but they
>>>always say something had to change in my situation. What? Little did.
>
> I
>
>>>think they are crooks. Or something is wrong elsehwere.
>>>
>>>They tell me: It's your refrigerator: I say: Hasn't changed in 3
>
> years.
>
>>>Well, you have more stuff in the refrigerator: Hasn't changed.
>>>
>>>Do you have air conditioning: Yes, hasn't changed. Has been serviced
>
> and
>
>>>verified efficient.
>>>
>>>You must have more lights on...I was gone for two months, with power
>>>off...explain that....they left without comment.
>>>
>>>If your bill is for two months, you probably have California
>
> electric....
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Do you guys not have meters on your property (or on the boundary)?
>>
>>We do in the UK, so we can work out from the bill and the meter if what
>>they are billing for is right, and then if it is, you know there *is*
>>something that's sucking more juice than there used to be.
>>
>>One meter per house/dwelling/flat.
>>
>>If this isn't the case out there, how on earth do they have ANY idea how
>>much you're using?
>>
>>Velvet
>
>
> We have a meter per unit. They are, however here, locked up and cannot be
> read by the tenants.
>
>

Ah, that might be understandable if you don't own the place but are
renting (not all tenants are trustworthy etc). Is it the leccy company
that holds the keys, or building maintenance/owner etc? might be worth
a chat to the latter to see if they'll let you take a reading in their
presence, given the circumstances.

Velvet

Boris
March 27th 04, 07:33 PM
> > One meter per house/dwelling/flat.
> >
> > If this isn't the case out there, how on earth do they have ANY idea
how
> > much you're using?
> >
> > Velvet
>
> We have a meter per unit. They are, however here, locked up and
cannot be
> read by the tenants.

The manager has the key. Turn off the main braker in your apartment and
look at your meter. It should be stopped. If it isn't someone (probably
the apartment complex) is stealing your electricity. If your manager
won't open the meter room then ask the electric company to do so.

NetMax
March 28th 04, 12:29 AM
"Dan J. S." > wrote in message
...
>
> "FishNut" > wrote in message
> . net...
<snip>
> I would investigate the wife. Why is she blow drying the hair? Why the
> change in lifestyle? Does she have a boyfriend who is keeping the
fridge
> open while searching for cold beers? I believe this will lead to
answers.

My best laugh today. Thanks Dan.

NetMax