Should this group be moderated?

[Dr Engelbert Buxbaum]

Hi,

for the last couple of weeks I fail to find fish-related discussions
amongst all the troll posts by fools, who feel that religious issues
need to be discussed not only in an inappropriate group, but also in a
totally inappropriate language.

I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as well. Since
the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their own, we need to kick
them out. So I move that this group should be moderated, and any
non-related posts should be cleansed from the feed.

What do you think?

Engelbert

[Wendelina]

"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> for the last couple of weeks I fail to find fish-related discussions
> amongst all the troll posts by fools, who feel that religious issues
> need to be discussed not only in an inappropriate group, but also in a
> totally inappropriate language.

I don't see any religious discussions here, just the same profanity and
personal attacks by Roy using the Koi-Lo (and other people's) Nym. Everyone
turned against him because of these disgusting messages so he decided to
destroy this group and all the aquarium groups using "Koi-Lo" as his excuse.
It's not easy to get groups moderated I was told.

> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as well. Since
> the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their own, we need to kick
> them out. So I move that this group should be moderated, and any
> non-related posts should be cleansed from the feed.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Engelbert

Join their new "lightly moderated" group where you should be spared the
profanity and other nonsense.......

[Tedd Jacobs]

"Wendelina" > wrote in message
.com...
>
> "Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> for the last couple of weeks I fail to find fish-related discussions
>> amongst all the troll posts by fools, who feel that religious issues
>> need to be discussed not only in an inappropriate group, but also in a
>> totally inappropriate language.
>
> I don't see any religious discussions here, just the same profanity and
> personal attacks by Roy using the Koi-Lo (and other people's) Nym.
> Everyone turned against him because of these disgusting messages so he
> decided to destroy this group and all the aquarium groups using "Koi-Lo"
> as his excuse. It's not easy to get groups moderated I was told.
>
>> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as well. Since
>> the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their own, we need to kick
>> them out. So I move that this group should be moderated, and any
>> non-related posts should be cleansed from the feed.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Engelbert
>
> Join their new "lightly moderated" group where you should be spared the
> profanity and other nonsense.......

reposted from NexMax's original:

Due to users beyond our control, a group of regulars from
rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc created and moved to:
'The Freshwater Aquarium'.
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

This is a 'lightly' moderated group, by members who volunteer to act as its
managers. They watch for, and delete any posts which are SPAM, grossly
inappropriate, or of an antisocial behaviour as has been seen in the Usenet
groups lately.

We also have members and managers from alt.aquaria,
alt.aquaria.tropical.fish.hobbist, rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants and
rec.ponds.

This group is open to anyone (new or old to the hobby) interested in
discussions regarding freshwater animals (fish, shrimps, snails etc), plants
and the operation of their set-ups (lighting, filters etc). The Google
interface is a little different, but the company is great.

http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

--
www.NetMax.tk

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in message
...
>
> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as well. Since
> the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their own, we need to kick
> them out. So I move that this group should be moderated, and any
> non-related posts should be cleansed from the feed.
=========================
I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and then who
will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to read and approve
of every message. On a busy day that can be very time consuming and in time
very boring.

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer:
I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
Rude or obscene messages are not mine .
The person impersonating me is posting
through Earthlink.net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[Dick]

On Wed, 24 May 2006 01:13:36 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:

>*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
>"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as well. Since
>> the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their own, we need to kick
>> them out. So I move that this group should be moderated, and any
>> non-related posts should be cleansed from the feed.
>=========================
>I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and then who
>will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to read and approve
>of every message. On a busy day that can be very time consuming and in time
>very boring.
>
>Koi-Lo....
>Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
>My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
>Disclaimer:
>I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
>Rude or obscene messages are not mine .
>The person impersonating me is posting
>through Earthlink.net.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

How about moderation that accepts all posts until a crisis happens?

dick

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 01:13:36 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>>I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and then who
>>will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to read and approve
>>of every message. On a busy day that can be very time consuming and in
>>time
>>very boring.
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
>
> How about moderation that accepts all posts until a crisis happens?
>
> dick
===========================
I understand what you're saying but it's extremely difficult to get a group
moderated at all. I haven't looked into it myself. I'm going by what
someone from this group told me. Evidently they did look into it and chose
a Google forum instead.

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer:
I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> "Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in
> message ...
>>
>> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as
>> well. Since the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their
>> own, we need to kick them out. So I move that this group should
>> be moderated, and any non-related posts should be cleansed from
>> the feed.
> =========================
> I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
> then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
> read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
> time consuming and in time very boring.
>

The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.

Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
solution. Getting away from broken newsreaders like Outlook Express is
an even better idea. Exercise your brain cells and learn how to use the
tools that are availalbe. Don't depend on some alturistic moderator to
protect you from the undesirables.

--
Cheers,
Kurt (whose killfile is growing daily)

[Doc Holliday]

The of the Best things in life are free. And some ain't.
Go moderated or buy a book or both.

[Koi-Lo]

"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
>> I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
>> then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
>> read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
>> time consuming and in time very boring.
---------------->
> The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
> get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.
>
> Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
> solution. Getting away from broken newsreaders like Outlook Express is
> an even better idea. Exercise your brain cells and learn how to use the
> tools that are availalbe. Don't depend on some alturistic moderator to
> protect you from the undesirables.
==========================
Moderators make me nervous because I have witnessed favoritism in the past.
If there's a disagreement they'll side with one group and alienate the other
side - you know what I mean. And you know who they'll ban!

Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll here is he
constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate posters to do his
trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym) they killfiled the legitimate
poster as well. People don't want to to that. When not trolling us he
uses his own nym. Very slick troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly
making it hard to avoid his posts.

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[Dick]

On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:24:34 -0000, Kurt > wrote:

>"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> "Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>>
>>> I am tired of this nonsense, and probably many others are as
>>> well. Since the pot-heads show no intention to leave on their
>>> own, we need to kick them out. So I move that this group should
>>> be moderated, and any non-related posts should be cleansed from
>>> the feed.
>> =========================
>> I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
>> then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
>> read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
>> time consuming and in time very boring.
>>
>
>The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
>get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.
>
>Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
>solution. Getting away from broken newsreaders like Outlook Express is
>an even better idea. Exercise your brain cells and learn how to use the
>tools that are availalbe. Don't depend on some alturistic moderator to
>protect you from the undesirables.


I really don't like the moderated idea. Just looking for ideas. It
is strange that the troll is killing its golden geese. If everyone
leaves who can it screem at?

dick

[Roy]

Your about a lying bitch carol. YOu wil not go to a moderated forum
because you can not pull the **** you pull in a open
forum.........your not center of attentin creating crap......you would
be banned from em all.............YOu already seem cocked and loaded
and anticipating a confrontation in any moderated forum from the
sounds of your post, which is nothing unusual......Whats wrong cup
cake is all yuyr friends packed up and left yu with nothing more than
a few old wore out sock puppets and dumbasses.........you ****ing dyed
in the wool looser.


On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:24:01 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>><>
>><>"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
>><>>> I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
>><>>> then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
>><>>> read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
>><>>> time consuming and in time very boring.
>><>---------------->
>><>> The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
>><>> get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.
>><>>
>><>> Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
>><>> solution. Getting away from broken newsreaders like Outlook Express is
>><>> an even better idea. Exercise your brain cells and learn how to use the
>><>> tools that are availalbe. Don't depend on some alturistic moderator to
>><>> protect you from the undesirables.
>><>==========================
>><>Moderators make me nervous because I have witnessed favoritism in the past.
>><>If there's a disagreement they'll side with one group and alienate the other
>><>side - you know what I mean. And you know who they'll ban!
>><>
>><>Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll here is he
>><>constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate posters to do his
>><>trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym) they killfiled the legitimate
>><>poster as well. People don't want to to that. When not trolling us he
>><>uses his own nym. Very slick troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly
>><>making it hard to avoid his posts.
>><>
>><>Koi-Lo....
>><>Aquariums since 1952. Frugal ponding since 1995.
>><>My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
>><>Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
>><>Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
>><>The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
>><>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll
> here is he constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate
> posters to do his trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym)
> they killfiled the legitimate poster as well. People don't want
> to to that. When not trolling us he uses his own nym. Very slick
> troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly making it hard to
> avoid his posts.
>
>

Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
local proxy to do your filtering.

Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
combonation of those three elements works.

--
Cheers,
Kurt

[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:31:25 -0000, Kurt > wrote:

>"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll
>> here is he constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate
>> posters to do his trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym)
>> they killfiled the legitimate poster as well. People don't want
>> to to that. When not trolling us he uses his own nym. Very slick
>> troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly making it hard to
>> avoid his posts.
>>
>>
>
>Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
>newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
>Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
>local proxy to do your filtering.
>
>Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
>combonation of those three elements works.

He changes nym, IP and servers or else there is more than one troll.
I think he is turned on by bad words, masochistic like. Being ignored
is hell.

I am sorry the regulars have left. Oddly, the beast has killed the
golden goose. No one to yell at and no one yelling back.

I plan to only post to alert people to not feed the troll.
Of course I also plan to respond to legitimate posts if I have
experience to share.

dick

[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:31:25 -0000, Kurt > wrote:

>"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll
>> here is he constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate
>> posters to do his trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym)
>> they killfiled the legitimate poster as well. People don't want
>> to to that. When not trolling us he uses his own nym. Very slick
>> troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly making it hard to
>> avoid his posts.
>>
>>
>
>Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
>newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
>Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
>local proxy to do your filtering.
>
>Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
>combonation of those three elements works.

One other thought about filtering, newbies aren't going to bother or
won't know how. Also not everyone has sophisticated newsreaders.

For the group to revive we need newbies and regulars. The troll has
one short term as the regulars have left, but he has lost his
audience. I only glance at the post bodies if I think there is a
legitimate post such as yours. I would never respond with hate or
anger which seem to really turn him on.. I know the beast may be a
female, but the old habits are easier. I really don't like refering
to him as a beast. Obviously he is a very needy person aching for
attention.

dick

[-ED]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 06:31:25 -0500, Kurt > wrote:

> "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll
>> here is he constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate
>> posters to do his trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym)
>> they killfiled the legitimate poster as well. People don't want
>> to to that. When not trolling us he uses his own nym. Very slick
>> troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly making it hard to
>> avoid his posts.
>>
>>
>
> Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
> newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
> Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
> local proxy to do your filtering.
>
> Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
> combonation of those three elements works.
>

I'm new to usenet and newsgroup readers. What I learned quickly was the
difference a decent newsreader makes. I would have thought the MS Gates
would have implemented a respectable reader within his os. That's how I
discovered Thunderbird and then Opera. I looked into Forte' Agent and I
wasn't ready to cough up money for it. I also learned that it was more
than the nym, IP, and server. All someone has to do to bypass those
filter elements was to post via internet group hostings and the like. So
after a call to a friend of mine (my college peer) He pointed out to me
that the usenets were archaic and their structure would never be
overhauled. He also pointed out in a most matter of fact way that they
were a notorious source of malware..that I should have all defense ware on
full screen. It ended up a mute debate. But what we both couldn't
understand is the work load involved that a troller must put in place. We
both realized that for normal people, there's not enough hours in the day
for one to put forth the work and receive what monetary reward. My nephew
is using this arena as part of his thesis towards his psychology degree.
I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
of Grand Central Station, now?!
or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.

[Kurt]

-ED > wrote in
:

> I'm new to usenet and newsgroup readers. What I learned quickly
> was the difference a decent newsreader makes. I would have
> thought the MS Gates would have implemented a respectable reader
> within his os.

Hi Ed,
We're vering off topic, and I'm the one who hijacked the thread. My
bad.

I could speculate why MS did what it did with OE. But it would only be
speculation.

WRT Usenet being archaic, while that it true, it is also a huge source
of information and amusement. As a source of malware, yes it can be
that also. Just as surfing unprotected on the Internet/WWW can be
dangerous. But I have yet to see some malware manage to do a 'drive-by
install' from a news group. Operator error and cluelessness are the two
things that lead to infected computers. How do you manage to remain
safe on or in usenet? Be very cautious about downloading anything and
scan it with multilple AV/AT. Don't download from sites you donn't know
anything about. Practice "safe hex".

And I'm done and outta here.

--
Cheers,
Kurt

[Koi-Lo]

"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
> Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
> newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
> Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
> local proxy to do your filtering.
>
> Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
> combonation of those three elements works.
=======================
Since I am no software techie which NR would you recommend? I would need
something for a real newbie. Something easy to use and understand. I tried
Hamster and Free Agent (and another I can't remember the name of - Pegasus?)
and either couldn't get connected to my NSs or couldn't figure out how to
send messages, or the sent messages never showed on the servers. I ended up
deleting them. I found OE the easiest to use. I can filter out a lot of
garbage but can't filter on IP. That's the one thing I wish OE could do.

A local proxy do my filtering? You must be the techie-type. :-)
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Roy]

Thats because your such a ****ing dumbass Carol.....Agent is so
simple even a "Caveman" can use it.....you dumb assed bimbo.


On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:18:02 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>><>
>><>"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
>><>> newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
>><>> Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
>><>> local proxy to do your filtering.
>><>>
>><>> Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
>><>> combonation of those three elements works.
>><>=======================
>><>Since I am no software techie which NR would you recommend? I would need
>><>something for a real newbie. Something easy to use and understand. I tried
>><>Hamster and Free Agent (and another I can't remember the name of - Pegasus?)
>><>and either couldn't get connected to my NSs or couldn't figure out how to
>><>send messages, or the sent messages never showed on the servers. I ended up
>><>deleting them. I found OE the easiest to use. I can filter out a lot of
>><>garbage but can't filter on IP. That's the one thing I wish OE could do.
>><>
>><>A local proxy do my filtering? You must be the techie-type. :-)

[Dick]

I hhave used Agent for years and now feel comfortable with handling
most activities.

Usenets may be archaic, but I find several values.
Don't have to register or sign in
Easy access to all posters
Easy to sort

I have seen spam before, but this troll spends more time than any I
have encountered before. I imagine the troll found a worthy opponent
with Koi-Lo who gave as good as she got, but I think the troll found
it exciting and followed her wherever she went to get more exchanges.
Then found there were others willing to attack. I think of a mother
spanking her boy's bottom for using nasty language only to discover
the boy liked to be spanked.

dick

On Thu, 25 May 2006 14:29:34 GMT, -ED > wrote:

>On Thu, 25 May 2006 06:31:25 -0500, Kurt > wrote:
>
>> "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>>
>>> Part of the difficulty people have in killfiling the main troll
>>> here is he constantly uses the names of other posters, legitimate
>>> posters to do his trolling. If they killfiled that name (nym)
>>> they killfiled the legitimate poster as well. People don't want
>>> to to that. When not trolling us he uses his own nym. Very slick
>>> troll. The other troll nym-shifts constantly making it hard to
>>> avoid his posts.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
>> newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
>> Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
>> local proxy to do your filtering.
>>
>> Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
>> combonation of those three elements works.
>>
>
>I'm new to usenet and newsgroup readers. What I learned quickly was the
>difference a decent newsreader makes. I would have thought the MS Gates
>would have implemented a respectable reader within his os. That's how I
>discovered Thunderbird and then Opera. I looked into Forte' Agent and I
>wasn't ready to cough up money for it. I also learned that it was more
>than the nym, IP, and server. All someone has to do to bypass those
>filter elements was to post via internet group hostings and the like. So
>after a call to a friend of mine (my college peer) He pointed out to me
>that the usenets were archaic and their structure would never be
>overhauled. He also pointed out in a most matter of fact way that they
>were a notorious source of malware..that I should have all defense ware on
>full screen. It ended up a mute debate. But what we both couldn't
>understand is the work load involved that a troller must put in place. We
>both realized that for normal people, there's not enough hours in the day
>for one to put forth the work and receive what monetary reward. My nephew
>is using this arena as part of his thesis towards his psychology degree.
> I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
>wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
>of Grand Central Station, now?!
>or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.

[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:18:02 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:

>
>"Kurt" > wrote in message
...
>> Yes this is true. However, it is possible to do IF you are using a
>> newsreader that isn't broken to begin with. In this case, Outlook
>> Express. There are other and better newsreaders, you can even use a
>> local proxy to do your filtering.
>>
>> Specific filtering on 1) nym, 2) IP address 3) server used. A
>> combonation of those three elements works.
>=======================
>Since I am no software techie which NR would you recommend? I would need
>something for a real newbie. Something easy to use and understand. I tried
>Hamster and Free Agent (and another I can't remember the name of - Pegasus?)
>and either couldn't get connected to my NSs or couldn't figure out how to
>send messages, or the sent messages never showed on the servers. I ended up
>deleting them. I found OE the easiest to use. I can filter out a lot of
>garbage but can't filter on IP. That's the one thing I wish OE could do.
>
>A local proxy do my filtering? You must be the techie-type. :-)

Hi Loi-Lo.

I use Agent and like it just fine.

I don't think any newsreader could filter for our troll.

I think we need to quit attacking back. It is like a mother spanking
her boy for using bad language only to learn later the boy really
liked to be spanked.

dick

[Koi-Lo]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:18:02 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>>Since I am no software techie which NR would you recommend? I would need
>>something for a real newbie.
>
> Hi Loi-Lo.
>
> I use Agent and like it just fine.
>
> I don't think any newsreader could filter for our troll.
>
> I think we need to quit attacking back. It is like a mother spanking
> her boy for using bad language only to learn later the boy really
> liked to be spanked.
>
> dick
=============================
I think I'll give Agent another try. But if I filter on the IP wouldn't
that block innocent posters using the same IP as the troll?

That's why I don't read or reply to any of his messages. I can almost spot
100% of them now. He's screaming into in a void as far as I'm concerned.
Just so much sulfurous hot air blown away by the winds of
cyberspace......... :-)
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
I do not post from Earthlink.net
I do not post rude, inane or obscene messages.
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Gail Futoran]

"-ED" > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
of Grand Central Station, now?!
>or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.

Have you ever heard the expression "different
strokes for different folks"?

I've been a Usenet newsgroup reader and poster
for at least 10 years. Yes, it's a drag at times but
I've tried other venues and I keep coming back to
Usenet. For some reason the format suits me. I
read a number of newsgroups, some of them go
through what the aquaria and ponds newsgroups
are going through, most eventually recover.

Bottom line: The trolls are a major pain, but so
are people who tell me
(1) I'm an idiot for using Outlook Express
(2) I should be anywhere but Usenet.

Gail

[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> Since I am no software techie which NR would you recommend? I
> would need something for a real newbie. Something easy to use and
> understand. I tried Hamster and Free Agent (and another I can't
> remember the name of - Pegasus?) and either couldn't get connected
> to my NSs or couldn't figure out how to send messages, or the sent
> messages never showed on the servers. I ended up deleting them.
> I found OE the easiest to use. I can filter out a lot of garbage
> but can't filter on IP. That's the one thing I wish OE could do.
>
> A local proxy do my filtering? You must be the techie-type. :-)
>

I find that Xnews is very close to the ideal newsreader. However, you
might try Thunderbird which is a combined email client and newsreader.
It is somewhat easier to configure for the non-techie. Xnews does
require some effort. Hamster can be setup (it is a local proxy) but
agian requiers some effort. OE will not likely ever be fixed. You could
also look at Dialog as a newsreader.

It's easy to google for links. Xnews will offer up an old version,
instead get the test version.

--
Cheers,
Kurt

[Kurt]

"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> I think I'll give Agent another try. But if I filter on the IP
> wouldn't that block innocent posters using the same IP as the
> troll?
>

No, it's unlikely that filtering by IP will cause an innocent to be
bloked.

--
Cheers,
Kurt

[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:21:54 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
> wrote:

>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>[snip]
>> I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
>wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
>of Grand Central Station, now?!
>>or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.
>
>Have you ever heard the expression "different
>strokes for different folks"?
>
>I've been a Usenet newsgroup reader and poster
>for at least 10 years. Yes, it's a drag at times but
>I've tried other venues and I keep coming back to
>Usenet. For some reason the format suits me. I
>read a number of newsgroups, some of them go
>through what the aquaria and ponds newsgroups
>are going through, most eventually recover.
>
>Bottom line: The trolls are a major pain, but so
>are people who tell me
>(1) I'm an idiot for using Outlook Express
>(2) I should be anywhere but Usenet.
>
>Gail
>
I feel the same about the Usenet format. I visited the Google site,
but had the same reaction as to visits to popular blogs. I suspect
the blog users have never had the advantage of visiting a Usenet
group.

Don't feed the trolls.

dick

[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:23:31 -0000, Kurt > wrote:

>"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> I think I'll give Agent another try. But if I filter on the IP
>> wouldn't that block innocent posters using the same IP as the
>> troll?
>>
>
>No, it's unlikely that filtering by IP will cause an innocent to be
>bloked.

Earthlink is a pretty big IP. How will blocking one IP help when the
troll changes IP?

Don't feed the troll.

dick

[Ol'Buddy Jim]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:21:54 -0500, Gail Futoran
> wrote:

> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
> [snip]
>> I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
> wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
> of Grand Central Station, now?!
>> or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.
>
> Have you ever heard the expression "different
> strokes for different folks"?

Yes I have. And-
A)Have you ever conducted a classroom or a forum?
B)Have you given a public speech?
C)Have you ever watched presidential candidates debate at the superbowl?
D)Have you ever taken a shopping cart full to the express lane?
E)Do you park in the Handicapped Parking Zone when you're not handicapped?
F)Do you interrupt someone when they were asked to answer a question?
G)Would you swim in the river when its 0*F outside?
H)Do you remember the days of Nanny Nanny Boo Boo?
I)Have you ever heard of "A penney saved is a penny earned.."?



>
> I've been a Usenet newsgroup reader and poster
> for at least 10 years. Yes, it's a drag at times but
> I've tried other venues and I keep coming back to
> Usenet. For some reason the format suits me. I
> read a number of newsgroups, some of them go
> through what the aquaria and ponds newsgroups
> are going through, most eventually recover.
>

I'll admit, I get a chuckle at some of the postings. In fact, I've spilled
my coffee laughing so hard at some of the rhetoric.


> Bottom line: The trolls are a major pain, but so
> are people who tell me
> (1) I'm an idiot for using Outlook Express
> (2) I should be anywhere but Usenet.
>
> Gail
>
>
You're not an idiot for using outlook express. Microsoft has never
enlightened you on better options (as if they would bother pointing out
their weaknesses in their help files !!)

[Ol'Buddy Jim]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:21:54 -0500, Gail Futoran
> wrote:

> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
> [snip]
>> I could go on and on..Its just like this..you wouldn't want to discuss
> wildlife and their preservation among a group of 30 people in the middle
> of Grand Central Station, now?!
>> or better yet, at the runway end around O'Hara.
>
> Have you ever heard the expression "different
> strokes for different folks"?

Since this is supposed to be a forum for Aquarium Hobbyists..let me
restructure my questionaire-

1)Do you overfeed your fish right after reading such a practice is
ill-advised?
2)Would you alow your children to place their toys in the aquarium?
3)Would you purposely spend good time and hard-earned money -(operative
word there!)- to setup your aquarium, only to decide that was just an
impulse purchase?
4)Would you visit your local pet shop, just to spit on the tanks and find
humor in it?
5)Would you keep firearms in the house easily accessible to kids of all
ages?
6)Different Strokes?

I don't believe you're an idiot. And I don't believe you would practice
any of the above mentioned misbehaviors. You're consise, courteous and
respond to courtesy.

>
> I've been a Usenet newsgroup reader and poster
> for at least 10 years. Yes, it's a drag at times but
> I've tried other venues and I keep coming back to
> Usenet. For some reason the format suits me. I
> read a number of newsgroups, some of them go
> through what the aquaria and ponds newsgroups
> are going through, most eventually recover.
>
> Bottom line: The trolls are a major pain, but so
> are people who tell me
> (1) I'm an idiot for using Outlook Express
> (2) I should be anywhere but Usenet.
>
> Gail
>
>

[bassett]

I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do contribute to
a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are sent to a
panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the newsgroup.
If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous the post goes
no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his e-mail address
explaining why it was rejected.

But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team, which in our
groups case only consists of two people.

A Yahoo group, is moderated by the person starting the group, but in that
case, anyone causeing trouble, or consistintly posting ''off topic'' is
simply taken of the mailing list and banned from posting.. Of cause there is
no reason why , he can't re'regester under another name.
bassett

[Koi-Lo]

"bassett" > wrote in message
...
>I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do contribute to
>a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are sent to
>a panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the
>newsgroup. If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous
>the post goes no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his
>e-mail address explaining why it was rejected.
>
> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team, which in
> our groups case only consists of two people.
>
> A Yahoo group, is moderated by the person starting the group, but in that
> case, anyone causeing trouble, or consistintly posting ''off topic'' is
> simply taken of the mailing list and banned from posting.. Of cause there
> is no reason why , he can't re'regester under another name.
====================================
Sometimes moderation is the only answer. But as you saw moderation can have
it's problems as well. As far as a moderated NG, people can sneak on that
as well under a different name.
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at:
http://faq.thekrib.com/
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[-ED Alston]

"bassett" > wrote in message
...
>I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do contribute to
>a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are sent to
>a panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the
>newsgroup. If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous
>the post goes no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his
>e-mail address explaining why it was rejected.
>
> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team, which in
> our groups case only consists of two people.
>
> A Yahoo group, is moderated by the person starting the group, but in that
> case, anyone causing trouble, or consistently posting ''off topic'' is
> simply taken of the mailing list and banned from posting.. Of course there
> is no reason why he can't re-register under another name.
>
> bassett
>
The moderator can setup a group/forum for members only(monitored), anyone
(monitored), and anyone (adult content) as I understand it from Google.
Members only says it plain..Invites only. Anyone monitored...postings are
screened via managers' email accounts...
That's the gist I get from it, anyway....-ED

-Save The Planet For Another Day....

[-MEAlston]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:01:04 -0500, bassett >
wrote:

> I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do contribute
> to
> a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are sent
> to a
> panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the
> newsgroup.
> If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous the post
> goes
> no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his e-mail
> address
> explaining why it was rejected.
>
> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team, which in
> our
> groups case only consists of two people.
>
> A Yahoo group, is moderated by the person starting the group, but in that
> case, anyone causeing trouble, or consistintly posting ''off topic'' is
> simply taken of the mailing list and banned from posting.. Of cause
> there is
> no reason why , he can't re'regester under another name.
> bassett
>
===========
I'm sure half is just gleeming for email addresses. What a life.


--
- Save The Planet For Another Day...

[Koi-Lo]

Well for all the ****ing and moaning rthses fuktard have done they dam
sure could have had a moderated forum here all ready, but they are all
asswipes with no initiative.Now they can't make up their fuicked up
asswipe minds if they l ike to getb things rocking with trash posts
and agitation in the usenet groups or stay in their l ittle smi
managed google forum with all the other asswipes.....I think CArol aka
Koi Lo is sucking the ones off that frequent USENET, as most if not
all of those asswipes are kind of depraved soiciopaths and
hypocrondriacs.

On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:44:51 -0500, Diorite >
wrote:
>><>In article >,
>><> "bassett" > wrote:
>><>
>><>> I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do contribute to
>><>> a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are sent to a
>><>> panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the newsgroup.
>><>> If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous the post goes
>><>> no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his e-mail address
>><>> explaining why it was rejected.
>><>
>><>> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team, which in our
>><>> groups case only consists of two people.
>><>
>><>I post to one moderated newsgroup that has a robo-moderator. The bot
>><>approves posts from known users without human intervention. Humans
>><>basically maintain the bot, maintain the approved list, and handle
>><>exceptions and questions.
>><>
>><>Mighty Morphin Power Posters need not apply.
>><>
>><>Getting a group changed from unmoderated to moderated is functionally
>><>impossible and has been for many years. Setting up a
>><>rec.aquaria.freshwater.moderated or similar group would be quite
>><>difficult. Net news is less vital and flexible as a community than it
>><>once was. It would take a dedicated group of folks several months.

[-MEAlston ®]

On Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:06 -0500, Koi-Lo > wrote:

>
>
> Well for all the ****ing and moaning rthses fuktard have done they dam
> sure could have had a moderated forum here all ready, but they are all
> asswipes with no initiative.Now they can't make up their fuicked up
> asswipe minds if they l ike to getb things rocking with trash posts
> and agitation in the usenet groups or stay in their l ittle smi
> managed google forum with all the other asswipes.....I think CArol aka
> Koi Lo is sucking the ones off that frequent USENET, as most if not
> all of those asswipes are kind of depraved soiciopaths and
> hypocrondriacs.
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:44:51 -0500, Diorite >
> wrote:
>>> <>In article >,
>>> <> "bassett" > wrote:
>>> <>
>>> <>> I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do
>>> contribute to
>>> <>> a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are
>>> sent to a
>>> <>> panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the
>>> newsgroup.
>>> <>> If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous the
>>> post goes
>>> <>> no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his
>>> e-mail address
>>> <>> explaining why it was rejected.
>>> <>
>>> <>> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team,
>>> which in our
>>> <>> groups case only consists of two people.
>>> <>
>>> <>I post to one moderated newsgroup that has a robo-moderator. The bot
>>> <>approves posts from known users without human intervention. Humans
>>> <>basically maintain the bot, maintain the approved list, and handle
>>> <>exceptions and questions.
>>> <>
>>> <>Mighty Morphin Power Posters need not apply.
>>> <>
>>> <>Getting a group changed from unmoderated to moderated is functionally
>>> <>impossible and has been for many years. Setting up a
>>> <>rec.aquaria.freshwater.moderated or similar group would be quite
>>> <>difficult. Net news is less vital and flexible as a community thanit
>>> <>once was. It would take a dedicated group of folks several months.
>

Diction Alone is the tell all...If I had that much energy surfing
newsgroupgs..I'd be the president of the free world.

--
-Save The Planet For Another Day...

[-MEAlston ®]

Why don't you just pick me for the target and leave the koi-lo alone. I'm
new so you would do well to target me and retain your bashing skills. -ED
That's Right...These colors Don't Run
Forever Neil Young
XGI
GClass
OHWhatFun
ThesisISdone

On Fri, 26 May 2006 13:36:06 -0500, Koi-Lo > wrote:

>
>
> Well for all the ****ing and moaning rthses fuktard have done they dam
> sure could have had a moderated forum here all ready, but they are all
> asswipes with no initiative.Now they can't make up their fuicked up
> asswipe minds if they l ike to getb things rocking with trash posts
> and agitation in the usenet groups or stay in their l ittle smi
> managed google forum with all the other asswipes.....I think CArol aka
> Koi Lo is sucking the ones off that frequent USENET, as most if not
> all of those asswipes are kind of depraved soiciopaths and
> hypocrondriacs.
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:44:51 -0500, Diorite >
> wrote:
>>> <>In article >,
>>> <> "bassett" > wrote:
>>> <>
>>> <>> I have no idea how a moderated news group is set-up, but I do
>>> contribute to
>>> <>> a moderated group from time to time, basically, all the posts are
>>> sent to a
>>> <>> panel of people , who read them and then forward them on to the
>>> newsgroup.
>>> <>> If something comes along, that is ''off-topic'' or libellous the
>>> post goes
>>> <>> no further, and the poster gets a rejection slip, sent to his
>>> e-mail address
>>> <>> explaining why it was rejected.
>>> <>
>>> <>> But it can be quite labour intencive, for the moderation team,
>>> which in our
>>> <>> groups case only consists of two people.
>>> <>
>>> <>I post to one moderated newsgroup that has a robo-moderator. The bot
>>> <>approves posts from known users without human intervention. Humans
>>> <>basically maintain the bot, maintain the approved list, and handle
>>> <>exceptions and questions.
>>> <>
>>> <>Mighty Morphin Power Posters need not apply.
>>> <>
>>> <>Getting a group changed from unmoderated to moderated is functionally
>>> <>impossible and has been for many years. Setting up a
>>> <>rec.aquaria.freshwater.moderated or similar group would be quite
>>> <>difficult. Net news is less vital and flexible as a community thanit
>>> <>once was. It would take a dedicated group of folks several months.
>



--
-Save The Planet For Another Day...

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"-MEAlston ®" > wrote in message
...
Why don't you just pick me for the target and leave the koi-lo alone. I'm
new so you would do well to target me and retain your bashing skills. -ED
That's Right...These colors Don't Run
=======================
Allow me to suggest he feels safe that his elderly victims (my self and my
husband) from TN are not likely to show up on his doorstep, whereas you live
closer to him, are not elderly, and just may make an unannounced appearance
at his door. He fears that above all else. Bullies want easy pickin's,
they don't want to face someone who can really fight back.........

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

[-ED]

On Sat, 27 May 2006 20:48:51 -0500, Koi-Lo <ZZZZ> wrote:

> *Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "-MEAlston ®" > wrote in message
> ...
> Why don't you just pick me for the target and leave the koi-lo alone.
> I'm
> new so you would do well to target me and retain your bashing skills.
> -ED
> That's Right...These colors Don't Run
> =======================
> Allow me to suggest he feels safe that his elderly victims (my self and
> my husband) from TN are not likely to show up on his doorstep, whereas
> you live closer to him, are not elderly, and just may make an
> unannounced appearance at his door. He fears that above all else.
> Bullies want easy pickin's, they don't want to face someone who can
> really fight back.........
>
> Koi-Lo....
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
> Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
> The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
>

I spent Friday PM with friends over posting like a madman. I stayed at it
'till Saturday Morn and I was beat from it. I'm still beat this PM. =\
--
-Save The Planet For Another Day...

[dc]

"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> whereas you live closer to him, are not elderly, and just may make an
> unannounced appearance at his door. He fears that above all else.

Until the day that you do just that, and then press your personal
confrontation by breaking down the door while he pretends not to be
home, he will continue to fear nothing from you or anyone here.

Continuing these endless threads of debate and follow-ups to his obvious
trolls and flames will do nothing but encourage him by letting him know
he has gotten to you. That is in the end, all he is after.

Most people on Usenet are smart enough to recognize a flame. They don't
need you or Ed, or whoever else, to follow up on each one of his replies
with a "that wasn't me! that wasn't me!" response.

Until the day that he is completely ignored by you and everyone and all
other conversation in this group goes on unheeded, he will continue his
childish game to his pleasure knowing that he has gotten to you.

My filters successfully screen out 90% of his posts, but the countless
"whatever shall we do" threads his intrusions provoke continue to get
through. I don't want to have to start screening the victims as well as
the victimizer.

Both logic and true-to-life real threats are completely wasted on a
troll.

Acknowledge a troll and he wins.

Abandon a group because of a troll and he wins.

Argue with a troll and he wins.

Argue with each other and a troll wins.

Ignore a troll and he goes on ignored.

I suppose all this is wasted. This is a lot like trying to reason with
rubber-neckers on the highway who stop traffic for 5 km because they've
slowed down to watch a man change a tire on the shoulder going the
opposite direction. It only takes one person to start a chain reaction
that screws everybody.

[Dr Engelbert Buxbaum]

Kurt wrote:


> > I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
> > then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
> > read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
> > time consuming and in time very boring.
> >
>
> The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
> get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.
>
> Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
> solution.

The technicalities of moderation are explained in the "moderated
newsgroup faq" at http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/moderated-ng-faq/

Filtering is unlikely to work if the perps (ab)use the names of regular
posters. IP-addresses are also unreliable, unless the posts come from a
permanent connection to the net (universities, large companies). If you
post from home (like I do) your IP-number will change each time you log
in. Many people even use different providers (to get the best tarrif
depending on the time of day) or even post from an internet cafe.

[Dick]

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:19:19 +0200, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum
> wrote:

>Kurt wrote:
>
>
>> > I was told it's almost impossible to get a group moderated, and
>> > then who will spend the time moderating it? Someone would have to
>> > read and approve of every message. On a busy day that can be very
>> > time consuming and in time very boring.
>> >
>>
>> The notion that moving to even a lightly moderated web based forum to
>> get away from the acromony and trolling is at best wishful thinking.
>>
>> Learning how to filter out the riff-raff/trolls/gremlins is a better
>> solution.
>
>The technicalities of moderation are explained in the "moderated
>newsgroup faq" at http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/moderated-ng-faq/
>
>Filtering is unlikely to work if the perps (ab)use the names of regular
>posters. IP-addresses are also unreliable, unless the posts come from a
>permanent connection to the net (universities, large companies). If you
>post from home (like I do) your IP-number will change each time you log
>in. Many people even use different providers (to get the best tarrif
>depending on the time of day) or even post from an internet cafe.


I considered moderation, but ultimately decided it was antithetical to
what I wanted in the newsgroups.

Having said that, I find that impersonation and cross posting give the
trolls quite an advantage. I don't like the web alternatives. What to
do, what to do?

dick

[Ross T.]

I scan it. 1 maybe 2 seconds. If its a piece of ****, it goes into the
garbage can. Just like a flyer does when it arives in my mail box,
uninvited. The first sentence, I come across that means to harm Carol I
just click Message/Filter/Create Filter from Message using Mozilla.

Poof!! The goof is gone! :)

[Dick]

On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:41:46 GMT, "Ross T."
> wrote:

>I scan it. 1 maybe 2 seconds. If its a piece of ****, it goes into the
>garbage can. Just like a flyer does when it arives in my mail box,
>uninvited. The first sentence, I come across that means to harm Carol I
>just click Message/Filter/Create Filter from Message using Mozilla.
>
>Poof!! The goof is gone! :)

I agree it really takes little time to sort through the posts and find
the trash, however there is a problem with filtering. Lot's of the
troll posts are impersonation, thus just filtering on a name
elimenates the real poster.

I just glance at the body and immediately move on to the next when I
first detect hate or garbage language.

dick