krib breeding

[amaskame]

We have twice now had our pair of kribs lay eggs in our tank. We have
lost them both times. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to keep the
offspring from being devoured by the other fish or the parents wichever
it is that is eating them? We thought the sucker fish got them the
first time, but the second time we moved the eggs to anouther tank but
when we put the parents in as well the eggs dissapeared in seconds. Can
we remove the eggs to anouther tank without the parents? Will they
really survive if we just leave them in the big tank? We have them in a
70 gal. tank with several other fish...angels, 2 sucker fishes, a
gourami, an eel, tetras, and some rainbow fish, and an elephant fish.
Someone please help!
Amy

[Koi-Lo]

"amaskame" > wrote in message
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> We have twice now had our pair of kribs lay eggs in our tank. We have
> lost them both times. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to keep the
> offspring from being devoured by the other fish or the parents wichever
> it is that is eating them? We thought the sucker fish got them the
> first time, but the second time we moved the eggs to anouther tank but
> when we put the parents in as well the eggs dissapeared in seconds. Can
> we remove the eggs to anouther tank without the parents? Will they
> really survive if we just leave them in the big tank? We have them in a
> 70 gal. tank with several other fish...angels, 2 sucker fishes, a
> gourami, an eel, tetras, and some rainbow fish, and an elephant fish.
> Someone please help!
======================
For the best chance of fry survival remove the parents to a tank of their
own. Allow them to breed in peace.
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Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
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[Dick]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:29:30 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:

>
>"amaskame" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> We have twice now had our pair of kribs lay eggs in our tank. We have
>> lost them both times. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to keep the
>> offspring from being devoured by the other fish or the parents wichever
>> it is that is eating them? We thought the sucker fish got them the
>> first time, but the second time we moved the eggs to anouther tank but
>> when we put the parents in as well the eggs dissapeared in seconds. Can
>> we remove the eggs to anouther tank without the parents? Will they
>> really survive if we just leave them in the big tank? We have them in a
>> 70 gal. tank with several other fish...angels, 2 sucker fishes, a
>> gourami, an eel, tetras, and some rainbow fish, and an elephant fish.
>> Someone please help!
>======================
>For the best chance of fry survival remove the parents to a tank of their
>own. Allow them to breed in peace.

Consider "unintended consequences". I had 3 beautiful black angels
in my 75 gallon tank. Two mated, of course the eggs did not survive.
I moved the pair to their own tank and both died of something that
left them disoriented, probably an air bladder infection. I have come
to move fish with great fear. I also hate to disrupt those that
remain behind. I blame change in behavior of my Siamese Algae Eaters
on a chase to separate the live bearer sexes. Before the big round
up, the SAEs always gathered around my arm to nibble while I weeded
plants. That behavior has never returned.

I sure miss the 2 angels, the 3rd was moved successfully to a
different tank and now is queen of the roost.

dick

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:29:30 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>>For the best chance of fry survival remove the parents to a tank of their
>>own. Allow them to breed in peace.
============
> Consider "unintended consequences". I had 3 beautiful black angels
> in my 75 gallon tank. Two mated, of course the eggs did not survive.
> I moved the pair to their own tank and both died of something that
> left them disoriented, probably an air bladder infection.

Did you make sure you acclimated them to the new tank? There may have been
a large difference in PH and TDS in the water. That can kill fish,
sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes hours.

I have come
> to move fish with great fear.

Just make sure you acclimate them to the water in the new tank. It's chancy
taking fish from an old established tank and plunking them down into a fresh
new tank with very different water parameters. It won't matter as much if
you do a lot of partial water changes on the established tank making the
water very similar.

I also hate to disrupt those that
> remain behind. I blame change in behavior of my Siamese Algae Eaters
> on a chase to separate the live bearer sexes. Before the big round
> up, the SAEs always gathered around my arm to nibble while I weeded
> plants. That behavior has never returned.
>
> I sure miss the 2 angels, the 3rd was moved successfully to a
> different tank and now is queen of the roost.

Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
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> dick

[Dick]

On Fri, 26 May 2006 22:21:54 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:

>*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:29:30 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:
>>>For the best chance of fry survival remove the parents to a tank of their
>>>own. Allow them to breed in peace.
>============
>> Consider "unintended consequences". I had 3 beautiful black angels
>> in my 75 gallon tank. Two mated, of course the eggs did not survive.
>> I moved the pair to their own tank and both died of something that
>> left them disoriented, probably an air bladder infection.
>
>Did you make sure you acclimated them to the new tank? There may have been
>a large difference in PH and TDS in the water. That can kill fish,
>sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes hours.
>
Anything is possible. The 2 tanks were established within a few
months of each other. All my tanks get 20% water changes twice a week
so I doubt there would be much difference in the conditions. I just
moved out the current tenants to other tanks and moved in the angels.

In any case, my caution was do not make changes unless they are
important. I was not serious about raising Angels and they were doing
fine in the 75 gallon.

dick


> I have come
>> to move fish with great fear.
>
>Just make sure you acclimate them to the water in the new tank. It's chancy
>taking fish from an old established tank and plunking them down into a fresh
>new tank with very different water parameters. It won't matter as much if
>you do a lot of partial water changes on the established tank making the
>water very similar.
>
> I also hate to disrupt those that
>> remain behind. I blame change in behavior of my Siamese Algae Eaters
>> on a chase to separate the live bearer sexes. Before the big round
>> up, the SAEs always gathered around my arm to nibble while I weeded
>> plants. That behavior has never returned.
>>
>> I sure miss the 2 angels, the 3rd was moved successfully to a
>> different tank and now is queen of the roost.
>
>Koi-Lo....
>Aquariums since 1952.
>My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
>Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
>Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
>The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~{@ ~~~~~<~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
>
>
>
>> dick