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Papa Red
May 27th 06, 04:23 PM
I was just informed that on June 5th & 6th that the whole apartment
building is going to be tented for termites, and that I will have to
move all of my fish, all 11 aquariums full,...Two 30, one 20, and eight
10 gallon aquariums. And I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.
After talking to my brother yesterday about it, I condensed them all
down to one 30 gallon aquarium for most the adult fish [including most
of the female Bettas], and one ten gallon aquarium for all of the tiny
fry, one ten gallon tank for a pregnant Betta, and two 10 gallon tanks
for some other pregnant fish. Plus one gallon plastic storage containers
for each of my four male Bettas, which would take up far less space than
the 10 gallon tanks they were living in. But I don't know where I can
place all of them for at least two or three days. My brother first said
that he'd be coming over the next day and that he would come and move
one of my now empty 30 gallon tanks that we would then fill up there at
his house with treated water, and maybe one or two of the 10 gallon
tanks,...but he said that he didn't think that we could fit all of those
tanks in his small apartment for at least two or three days there. Well
some things have happened where he couldn't come the next day, and now I
have a much over- populated 30 gallon aquarium with 4 Whisper 20's
running, the 10 gallon with the pregnant Betta, the two 10 gal. with the
other pregnant fish, and the male Bettas, each still in their 10 gallon
tanks, awaiting to be moved to my brother's apartment, which he says
won't happen until Tuesday, May 30th. I know that all of this is very
stressful on my fish. I don't know whether I should move them all back
to their original tanks until Monday night, and then put them & I
through all of the stress of me having to hunt them down and remove them
with a net, or just leave them where they are until I put them in
containers or bags to move them to my brother's place. And also, can I
store them for the one to two hour trip to my brother's place in plastic
air-tight [food storage] containers, or should I use bags like the ones
that they use at pet stores? When fish are all jumbled together like
they are now, and will be even more so for two or three days, what
should I do and not do? Any help and or suggestions will be very much
appreciated.~Dean.

Dick
May 27th 06, 06:04 PM
How about putting a tent around the tanks and use medical oxygen or
scuba air tanks to fill the tent? Perhaps an outside air pump with
hoses to the tank tents. I sure hope you can find a solution without
moving the tanks. Maybe the termite people can suggest something.

Good luck

dick

On Sat, 27 May 2006 11:23:24 -0400, (Papa Red)
wrote:

> I was just informed that on June 5th & 6th that the whole apartment
>building is going to be tented for termites, and that I will have to
>move all of my fish, all 11 aquariums full,...Two 30, one 20, and eight
>10 gallon aquariums. And I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.
>After talking to my brother yesterday about it, I condensed them all
>down to one 30 gallon aquarium for most the adult fish [including most
>of the female Bettas], and one ten gallon aquarium for all of the tiny
>fry, one ten gallon tank for a pregnant Betta, and two 10 gallon tanks
>for some other pregnant fish. Plus one gallon plastic storage containers
>for each of my four male Bettas, which would take up far less space than
>the 10 gallon tanks they were living in. But I don't know where I can
>place all of them for at least two or three days. My brother first said
>that he'd be coming over the next day and that he would come and move
>one of my now empty 30 gallon tanks that we would then fill up there at
>his house with treated water, and maybe one or two of the 10 gallon
>tanks,...but he said that he didn't think that we could fit all of those
>tanks in his small apartment for at least two or three days there. Well
>some things have happened where he couldn't come the next day, and now I
>have a much over- populated 30 gallon aquarium with 4 Whisper 20's
>running, the 10 gallon with the pregnant Betta, the two 10 gal. with the
>other pregnant fish, and the male Bettas, each still in their 10 gallon
>tanks, awaiting to be moved to my brother's apartment, which he says
>won't happen until Tuesday, May 30th. I know that all of this is very
>stressful on my fish. I don't know whether I should move them all back
>to their original tanks until Monday night, and then put them & I
>through all of the stress of me having to hunt them down and remove them
>with a net, or just leave them where they are until I put them in
>containers or bags to move them to my brother's place. And also, can I
>store them for the one to two hour trip to my brother's place in plastic
>air-tight [food storage] containers, or should I use bags like the ones
>that they use at pet stores? When fish are all jumbled together like
>they are now, and will be even more so for two or three days, what
>should I do and not do? Any help and or suggestions will be very much
>appreciated.~Dean.

Koi-Lo
May 27th 06, 06:29 PM
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Papa Red" > wrote in message
...
> I was just informed that on June 5th & 6th that the whole apartment
> building is going to be tented for termites, and that I will have to
> move all of my fish, all 11 aquariums full,...Two 30, one 20, and eight
> 10 gallon aquariums. And I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.

Start to call all your local Fish shops, explain the problem and ask if they
would "board" your fish for a few days. Many shops will do this for a
regular customer. Even if you just bought supplies and fish food there.
You can move them in a cheap tote from Wal*Mart. You have one heck of a
problem. :-( I suppose you can empty all the tanks and move them to a
friends garage.


> After talking to my brother yesterday about it, I condensed them all
> down to one 30 gallon aquarium for most the adult fish [including most
> of the female Bettas], and one ten gallon aquarium for all of the tiny
> fry, one ten gallon tank for a pregnant Betta, and two 10 gallon tanks
> for some other pregnant fish. Plus one gallon plastic storage containers
> for each of my four male Bettas, which would take up far less space than
> the 10 gallon tanks they were living in. But I don't know where I can
> place all of them for at least two or three days. My brother first said
> that he'd be coming over the next day and that he would come and move
> one of my now empty 30 gallon tanks that we would then fill up there at
> his house with treated water, and maybe one or two of the 10 gallon
> tanks,...but he said that he didn't think that we could fit all of those
> tanks in his small apartment for at least two or three days there. Well
> some things have happened where he couldn't come the next day, and now I
> have a much over- populated 30 gallon aquarium with 4 Whisper 20's
> running, the 10 gallon with the pregnant Betta, the two 10 gal. with the
> other pregnant fish, and the male Bettas, each still in their 10 gallon
> tanks, awaiting to be moved to my brother's apartment, which he says
> won't happen until Tuesday, May 30th. I know that all of this is very
> stressful on my fish. I don't know whether I should move them all back
> to their original tanks until Monday night, and then put them & I
> through all of the stress of me having to hunt them down and remove them
> with a net, or just leave them where they are until I put them in
> containers or bags to move them to my brother's place.

I would choose your second option. Let them be until Monday. Your bettas
can go into smaller, easier to move jars for a few days.

And also, can I
> store them for the one to two hour trip to my brother's place in plastic
> air-tight [food storage] containers, or should I use bags like the ones
> that they use at pet stores? When fish are all jumbled together like
> they are now, and will be even more so for two or three days, what
> should I do and not do? Any help and or suggestions will be very much
> appreciated.~Dean.

When I moved out here we moved the fish in "almost empty" tanks. There was
just enough water to cover them by about 1". The sloshing water must have
aerated them as none died and none were gasping for air. They were in those
2 tanks for at least 5 hours before the other tanks could be set up,
everyone moved etc., maybe even longer. There were angels, tetras, loaches,
goldfish, barbs....... It was one hectic day!
--
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Koi-Lo
May 27th 06, 06:43 PM
Hey Dick go **** up a ****ing rope.

On Sat, 27 May 2006 12:04:52 -0500, Dick >
wrote:
>><>How about putting a tent around the tanks and use medical oxygen or
>><>scuba air tanks to fill the tent? Perhaps an outside air pump with
>><>hoses to the tank tents. I sure hope you can find a solution without
>><>moving the tanks. Maybe the termite people can suggest something.
>><>
>><>Good luck
>><>
>><>dick
>><>
>><>On Sat, 27 May 2006 11:23:24 -0400, (Papa Red)
>><>wrote:
>><>
>><>> I was just informed that on June 5th & 6th that the whole apartment
>><>>building is going to be tented for termites, and that I will have to
>><>>move all of my fish, all 11 aquariums full,...Two 30, one 20, and eight
>><>>10 gallon aquariums. And I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.
>><>>After talking to my brother yesterday about it, I condensed them all
>><>>down to one 30 gallon aquarium for most the adult fish [including most
>><>>of the female Bettas], and one ten gallon aquarium for all of the tiny
>><>>fry, one ten gallon tank for a pregnant Betta, and two 10 gallon tanks
>><>>for some other pregnant fish. Plus one gallon plastic storage containers
>><>>for each of my four male Bettas, which would take up far less space than
>><>>the 10 gallon tanks they were living in. But I don't know where I can
>><>>place all of them for at least two or three days. My brother first said
>><>>that he'd be coming over the next day and that he would come and move
>><>>one of my now empty 30 gallon tanks that we would then fill up there at
>><>>his house with treated water, and maybe one or two of the 10 gallon
>><>>tanks,...but he said that he didn't think that we could fit all of those
>><>>tanks in his small apartment for at least two or three days there. Well
>><>>some things have happened where he couldn't come the next day, and now I
>><>>have a much over- populated 30 gallon aquarium with 4 Whisper 20's
>><>>running, the 10 gallon with the pregnant Betta, the two 10 gal. with the
>><>>other pregnant fish, and the male Bettas, each still in their 10 gallon
>><>>tanks, awaiting to be moved to my brother's apartment, which he says
>><>>won't happen until Tuesday, May 30th. I know that all of this is very
>><>>stressful on my fish. I don't know whether I should move them all back
>><>>to their original tanks until Monday night, and then put them & I
>><>>through all of the stress of me having to hunt them down and remove them
>><>>with a net, or just leave them where they are until I put them in
>><>>containers or bags to move them to my brother's place. And also, can I
>><>>store them for the one to two hour trip to my brother's place in plastic
>><>>air-tight [food storage] containers, or should I use bags like the ones
>><>>that they use at pet stores? When fish are all jumbled together like
>><>>they are now, and will be even more so for two or three days, what
>><>>should I do and not do? Any help and or suggestions will be very much
>><>>appreciated.~Dean.

Papa Red
May 27th 06, 06:47 PM
I am on Social Security Disability and have no extra money, especially
for the things that you talk about. I will call the Termite people
onTuesday.~Dean.

Nikki
May 27th 06, 06:56 PM
Sorry to hear about that. Lets see if we can figure something out. I dont
know but did you ask them about using plastic wrap over the top of the tank,
with air hose. Are you going to empty all the tanks out? A local pet store
would be a good idea or a neighbor who was close. Let me ask a couple people
over at google maybe they could come up with something.
Nik
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium



"Papa Red" > wrote in message
...
> I was just informed that on June 5th & 6th that the whole apartment
> building is going to be tented for termites, and that I will have to
> move all of my fish, all 11 aquariums full,...Two 30, one 20, and eight
> 10 gallon aquariums. And I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.
> After talking to my brother yesterday about it, I condensed them all
> down to one 30 gallon aquarium for most the adult fish [including most
> of the female Bettas], and one ten gallon aquarium for all of the tiny
> fry, one ten gallon tank for a pregnant Betta, and two 10 gallon tanks
> for some other pregnant fish. Plus one gallon plastic storage containers
> for each of my four male Bettas, which would take up far less space than
> the 10 gallon tanks they were living in. But I don't know where I can
> place all of them for at least two or three days. My brother first said
> that he'd be coming over the next day and that he would come and move
> one of my now empty 30 gallon tanks that we would then fill up there at
> his house with treated water, and maybe one or two of the 10 gallon
> tanks,...but he said that he didn't think that we could fit all of those
> tanks in his small apartment for at least two or three days there. Well
> some things have happened where he couldn't come the next day, and now I
> have a much over- populated 30 gallon aquarium with 4 Whisper 20's
> running, the 10 gallon with the pregnant Betta, the two 10 gal. with the
> other pregnant fish, and the male Bettas, each still in their 10 gallon
> tanks, awaiting to be moved to my brother's apartment, which he says
> won't happen until Tuesday, May 30th. I know that all of this is very
> stressful on my fish. I don't know whether I should move them all back
> to their original tanks until Monday night, and then put them & I
> through all of the stress of me having to hunt them down and remove them
> with a net, or just leave them where they are until I put them in
> containers or bags to move them to my brother's place. And also, can I
> store them for the one to two hour trip to my brother's place in plastic
> air-tight [food storage] containers, or should I use bags like the ones
> that they use at pet stores? When fish are all jumbled together like
> they are now, and will be even more so for two or three days, what
> should I do and not do? Any help and or suggestions will be very much
> appreciated.~Dean.
>

Dick
May 27th 06, 09:46 PM
On Sat, 27 May 2006 13:47:57 -0400, (Papa Red)
wrote:

>I am on Social Security Disability and have no extra money, especially
>for the things that you talk about. I will call the Termite people
>onTuesday.~Dean.

I thought the idea of contacting your LFS a possible or moving the
fish to trash bag. My outside temperature is great for fish. Move
the fish to something and tent the tanks with trash bags. No great
expense in that.

dick

-ED
May 28th 06, 12:24 AM
You could try picking up a smll kitchen plastic waste can from the dollar
store. If it comes down to it, I'd remove the fish, turn off the
pumps/filters...then cover the tanks with sheets and bedspreads and the
like. Then after the bug man leaves, air the apartment out with window fans
for some time. You should be ok it a few hours, I'd imagine. Hope that
helps....-ED

Koi-Lo
May 28th 06, 02:42 AM
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"-ED" > wrote in message
...
> You could try picking up a smll kitchen plastic waste can from the dollar
> store. If it comes down to it, I'd remove the fish, turn off the
> pumps/filters...then cover the tanks with sheets and bedspreads and the
> like. Then after the bug man leaves, air the apartment out with window
> fans for some time. You should be ok it a few hours, I'd imagine. Hope
> that helps....-ED
=========================
I would think sealing the tops with saran wrap or even a cut up old shower
curtain and cheap tape to be safer. A very fine mist (gas) can go through
bedspreads and sheets.

Koi-Lo....
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-ED
May 28th 06, 02:51 AM
"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in message ...
> *Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You could try picking up a smll kitchen plastic waste can from the dollar
>> store. If it comes down to it, I'd remove the fish, turn off the
>> pumps/filters...then cover the tanks with sheets and bedspreads and the
>> like. Then after the bug man leaves, air the apartment out with window
>> fans for some time. You should be ok it a few hours, I'd imagine. Hope
>> that helps....-ED
> =========================
> I would think sealing the tops with saran wrap or even a cut up old shower
> curtain and cheap tape to be safer. A very fine mist (gas) can go through
> bedspreads and sheets.
>
Froogle and Effective. That's the answer. Cool.

> Koi-Lo....
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> Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
> Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
> The person impersonating me is posting through Earthlink.net.
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>
Froogle and Effective. That's the answer.

dc
June 2nd 06, 01:20 PM
"Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :

> I would think sealing the tops with saran wrap or even a cut up old
> shower curtain and cheap tape to be safer. A very fine mist (gas) can
> go through bedspreads and sheets.

How long are these aquariums supposed to be sealed up?

Without proper gas exchange a heavily stocked aquarium can crash due to CO2
poisoning overnight. Sealing it up with pastic may keep industrial poisons
out, but it will also certainly keep natural poisons in.

LaieTechie
June 5th 06, 09:10 AM
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:20:07 -0500, dc wrote:

> "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote in :
>
>> I would think sealing the tops with saran wrap or even a cut up old
>> shower curtain and cheap tape to be safer. A very fine mist (gas) can
>> go through bedspreads and sheets.
>
> How long are these aquariums supposed to be sealed up?
>
> Without proper gas exchange a heavily stocked aquarium can crash due to
> CO2 poisoning overnight. Sealing it up with pastic may keep industrial
> poisons out, but it will also certainly keep natural poisons in.

Ed suggested removing the fish before sealing, so that shouldn't be that
big of an issue.

HTH,
Laie Techie

Dick
June 5th 06, 11:12 AM
On Sat, 27 May 2006 20:42:08 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <ZZZZ> wrote:

>*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
>"-ED" > wrote in message
...
>> You could try picking up a smll kitchen plastic waste can from the dollar
>> store. If it comes down to it, I'd remove the fish, turn off the
>> pumps/filters...then cover the tanks with sheets and bedspreads and the
>> like. Then after the bug man leaves, air the apartment out with window
>> fans for some time. You should be ok it a few hours, I'd imagine. Hope
>> that helps....-ED
>=========================
>I would think sealing the tops with saran wrap or even a cut up old shower
>curtain and cheap tape to be safer. A very fine mist (gas) can go through
>bedspreads and sheets.
>
>Koi-Lo....
>My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58
>Disclaimer: I do not post from Google, Earthlink, Usenetzone or Verizon.
>Rude, inane or obscene messages are not mine .
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Have you talked with the contracter? I bet this is not the first time
this problem has been encountered.

dick

dc
June 6th 06, 02:52 AM
LaieTechie > wrote in
news:pan.2006.06.05.08.10.20.228565@win_remove_get _nospam_solutions.com:

>> Without proper gas exchange a heavily stocked aquarium can crash due to
>> CO2 poisoning overnight. Sealing it up with pastic may keep industrial
>> poisons out, but it will also certainly keep natural poisons in.
>
> Ed suggested removing the fish before sealing, so that shouldn't be that
> big of an issue.

In that case he/she may want to consider something more heavy-duty than
saran wrap. I believe saran wrap is actually semi-permeable. It may be
possible for there to be seepage with prolonged contact with airborne
poisons.

At the very least I would be water changing and running a crapload of fresh
active carbon in my filters for a few days before bringing the fish back.