Sucking air

[Steve]

I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started falling
over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
of air in the pump when I stand it upright.

I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think it
might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and perhaps
the pump is sucking the air from the algea?

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Steve

[Koi-Lo]

Oh hell, I thought we were talking about Carol Gulleys bull****. It
also sucks a lot of air.




On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>><>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started falling
>><>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
>><>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>><>
>><>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think it
>><>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and perhaps
>><>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>><>
>><>Any ideas?
>><>
>><>Cheers,
>><>
>><>Steve
>><>

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Steve" > wrote in message
...
>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started falling
>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.

It sounds as though it may be defective. If still under warranty you need
to return it. The water may also be too shallow in your fountain or pond
allowing air to be sucked in. Can you release the air and try setting it in
deeper water?

> I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think
> it might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and
> perhaps the pump is sucking the air from the algea?

You may want to try removing this algae. If it's a fountain you can use one
of the products designed to keep algae from growing in the water.

>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[~ janj]

On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:

>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started falling
>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>
>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think it
>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and perhaps
>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>
>Any ideas?
>Steve

Clean it. Sounds like the pump isn't getting enough flow from clogged pads.
This can make the pump gravitate, knocking oxygen right out of suspension
causing bubbles to get caught in the filter (under the clogged pads). If it
continues to do this after cleaning, sometimes you just have to put a few
rocks in the box. ;o) ~ jan
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~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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[Steve]

Thanks Jan,
I cleaned it out yesterday, but withing 12 hours it had tipped over. Do you
not think it's the hair algea? Every time it's tipped over there's been
lots of it around the pump.
A while back the hair algea was very fine (i.e. not solid), but now it's
gone a darker green and is more clumpy and solid. Should I get rid of it?
The tadpoles and the newt seem to like it, but I don't think it's doing the
pond and fish much good in this state.

Cheers,

Steve

"~ janj" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>
>>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
>>falling
>>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
>>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>>
>>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think
>>it
>>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and perhaps
>>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>Steve
>
> Clean it. Sounds like the pump isn't getting enough flow from clogged
> pads.
> This can make the pump gravitate, knocking oxygen right out of suspension
> causing bubbles to get caught in the filter (under the clogged pads). If
> it
> continues to do this after cleaning, sometimes you just have to put a few
> rocks in the box. ;o) ~ jan
> --------------
> See my ponds and filter design:
> www.jjspond.us
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[Steve]

It's a shame you're still sucking air. ****.

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
> Oh hell, I thought we were talking about Carol Gulleys bull****. It
> also sucks a lot of air.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>>><>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
>>>falling
>>><>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's
>>>lots
>>><>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>>><>
>>><>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I
>>>think it
>>><>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and
>>>perhaps
>>><>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>>><>
>>><>Any ideas?
>>><>
>>><>Cheers,
>>><>
>>><>Steve
>>><>
>

[~ janj]

>Thanks Jan,
>I cleaned it out yesterday, but withing 12 hours it had tipped over. Do you
>not think it's the hair algea? Every time it's tipped over there's been
>lots of it around the pump.
>A while back the hair algea was very fine (i.e. not solid), but now it's
>gone a darker green and is more clumpy and solid. Should I get rid of it?
>The tadpoles and the newt seem to like it, but I don't think it's doing the
>pond and fish much good in this state.
>Cheers,
>Steve

Very well could be the algae, since it does produce a lot of O2 during the
day. Trying pulling a bunch of it out and see what happens. ~ jan

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[Steve]

Hi there,
I've removed a lot of this algea. I'll let you know if it does the trick.
I think the water is deep enough, as I needed to use an extension attachment
so the head of the fountain extended out of the water.

Cheers,

Steve
"Koi-Lo" <None> wrote in message ...
> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
>>falling over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond!
>>There's lots of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>
> It sounds as though it may be defective. If still under warranty you need
> to return it. The water may also be too shallow in your fountain or pond
> allowing air to be sucked in. Can you release the air and try setting it
> in deeper water?
>
>> I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think
>> it might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and
>> perhaps the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>
> You may want to try removing this algae. If it's a fountain you can use
> one of the products designed to keep algae from growing in the water.
>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steve
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>
>
>

[~Roy]

Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......


On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:24:11 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>><>It's a shame you're still sucking air. ****.
>><>
>><>"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Oh hell, I thought we were talking about Carol Gulleys bull****. It
>><>> also sucks a lot of air.
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>><>>>><>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
>><>>>>falling
>><>>>><>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's
>><>>>>lots
>><>>>><>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I
>><>>>>think it
>><>>>><>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and
>><>>>>perhaps
>><>>>><>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>Any ideas?
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>Cheers,
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>Steve
>><>>>><>
>><>>
>><>

[~Roy]

Who really gives a **** about your pump steve, evidently its too much
for your little freaking pea mind to comprehend and your loosing
it..Dumbass!

[Koi-Lo]

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> Hi there,
> I've removed a lot of this algea. I'll let you know if it does the trick.
> I think the water is deep enough, as I needed to use an extension
> attachment so the head of the fountain extended out of the water.
====================
Yes, please let us know if that worked Steve. If not, than do as Jan
suggested and weigh it down with something. Water lettuce, inexpensive and
easy to find starves this algae out if you toss in some potash.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Rude or obscene messages posted by my impersonator ~Roy.
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Roy]

"Koi-Lo" aka Roy > wrote in message
...
> Oh hell, I thought we were talking about Roy Hauer's bull****. It
> also sucks a lot of air.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:09:55 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
> >><>I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
falling
> >><>over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's
lots
> >><>of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
> >><>
> >><>I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I
think it
> >><>might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and
perhaps
> >><>the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
> >><>
> >><>Any ideas?
> >><>
> >><>Cheers,
> >><>
> >><>Steve
> >><>
>

[Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
> the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
> looser......
>

[~Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...

Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......

"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> I have an all-in-one pump/filter/fountain. Recently it has started
falling
> over and on one occasion it rose completely out of the pond! There's lots
> of air in the pump when I stand it upright.
>
> I don't know why it's started doing this (it's just a year old). I think
it
> might be to do with hair algea getting caught around the vents and perhaps
> the pump is sucking the air from the algea?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
>