Beta turning water blue

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We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
a sign of problems with the fish?

I

[dc]

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> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> a sign of problems with the fish?

It is definitely not normal for a Betta to leak coloured fluids.

How new is your fish? Bettas are occasionally shipped in a malachite blue
solution--the water is stained blue--but I've never heard of this chemical
being trapped in the fish or later reappearing. Perhaps your Betta was
dosed inapproperiately and malachite was swallowed or absorbed somehow, but
that would still be extremely odd.

Are you sure there is not another factor at play somewhere?

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> Are you sure there is not another factor at play somewhere?
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Perhaps he's using blue gravel in the betta bowl/tank and it's leaching.
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DC,

No, Delphi is an old fish, we've had him since October 2002. Part of
our concern is that he's so old.

We just changed the water, water was rested a few days & treated with
Bowl Buddies. No other additive, nothing that would change the color.
The water in Snobol's bowl is still clear.

Delphi's bowl is always dirtier. He seems to defecate a lot! More than
Delphi or Pascal (another beta we used to have). But he's never turned
it colors before & this seemed to come from his mouth & gills.

--MikeW

dc wrote:
> " > wrote in
> oups.com:
>
> > We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> > Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> > blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> > a sign of problems with the fish?
>
> It is definitely not normal for a Betta to leak coloured fluids.
>
> How new is your fish? Bettas are occasionally shipped in a malachite blue
> solution--the water is stained blue--but I've never heard of this chemical
> being trapped in the fish or later reappearing. Perhaps your Betta was
> dosed inapproperiately and malachite was swallowed or absorbed somehow, but
> that would still be extremely odd.
>
> Are you sure there is not another factor at play somewhere?

[-ED]

The whole topic gives me the whillies!
> wrote in message
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> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> a sign of problems with the fish?
>
> I
>

[Koi-Lo]

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> wrote in message
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>
> Delphi's bowl is always dirtier. He seems to defecate a lot! More than
> Delphi or Pascal (another beta we used to have). But he's never turned
> it colors before & this seemed to come from his mouth & gills.
===============
This is very interesting. Please let us know if you find out more.....
I've had bettas on and off for ages and none ever did this.
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"-ED" > wrote in message
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> The whole topic gives me the whillies!

> > wrote in message
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>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>> a sign of problems with the fish?
====================
I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
pigments be coming from?
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[Glassman]

> wrote in message
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> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> a sign of problems with the fish?
>
> I
>


Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got to
be something other than the fish.

--

JK Sinrod
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www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[Koi-Lo]

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"Glassman" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>> a sign of problems with the fish?
>>
>> I
>>
>
>
> Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got to
> be something other than the fish.
========================
That's what I think as well. There is no way the fish's pigments can leave
the fish and enter the water to color it......
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[Koi-Lo]

Still more unsubstantiated remarks from a clueless wonder from
Tennesee that don;t have enough common sense to come in out of the
rain.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 20:42:20 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
>><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>><>
>><>"Glassman" > wrote in message
...
>><>>
>><>> > wrote in message
>><>> oups.com...
>><>>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>><>>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>><>>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>><>>> a sign of problems with the fish?
>><>>>
>><>>> I
>><>>>
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got to
>><>> be something other than the fish.
>><>========================
>><>That's what I think as well. There is no way the fish's pigments can leave
>><>the fish and enter the water to color it......

[~Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...
Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> a sign of problems with the fish?
>
> I
>

[~Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...

Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......

"Glassman" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> > Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> > blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> > a sign of problems with the fish?
> >
> > I
> >
>
>
> Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got
to
> be something other than the fish.
>
> --
>
> JK Sinrod
> www.sinrodstudios.com
> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>
>

[Nikki]

bowl buddies (the white pill shape things) have blue in there if not done
fizzing...the couple times i used them and did not stir the water i have
blue color at the bottom of the tank.
Nik

> wrote in message
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> DC,
>
> No, Delphi is an old fish, we've had him since October 2002. Part of
> our concern is that he's so old.
>
> We just changed the water, water was rested a few days & treated with
> Bowl Buddies. No other additive, nothing that would change the color.
> The water in Snobol's bowl is still clear.
>
> Delphi's bowl is always dirtier. He seems to defecate a lot! More than
> Delphi or Pascal (another beta we used to have). But he's never turned
> it colors before & this seemed to come from his mouth & gills.
>
> --MikeW
>
> dc wrote:
>> " > wrote in
>> oups.com:
>>
>> > We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>> > Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>> > blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>> > a sign of problems with the fish?
>>
>> It is definitely not normal for a Betta to leak coloured fluids.
>>
>> How new is your fish? Bettas are occasionally shipped in a malachite
>> blue
>> solution--the water is stained blue--but I've never heard of this
>> chemical
>> being trapped in the fish or later reappearing. Perhaps your Betta was
>> dosed inapproperiately and malachite was swallowed or absorbed somehow,
>> but
>> that would still be extremely odd.
>>
>> Are you sure there is not another factor at play somewhere?
>

[swarvegorilla]

"Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
...
> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "-ED" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The whole topic gives me the whillies!
>
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>>> a sign of problems with the fish?
> ====================
> I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
> pigments be coming from?

Well the fins hold a lot of pigment, perhaps they are rotting or have some
sort of infection.
Dead betta stain tanks and surfaces with their colour.
not a good look tho.
somethings wrong!

[Roy]

"Roy" Hauer aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...

Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
dickhead. See you should have spent more time studying instead of
playing with yourself. Has anyone ever told you that you look like a
Dick with ears? Well if not, you do!

Well I am of the belief that your still a ****ing asshole.

"Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
...
> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "Glassman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> >> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> >> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> >> a sign of problems with the fish?
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >
> >
> > Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got
to
> > be something other than the fish.
> ========================
> That's what I think as well. There is no way the fish's pigments can
leave
> the fish and enter the water to color it......
> --
> Koi-Lo....
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[Koi-Lo]

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"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
u...
>
> "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
> ...
>> I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
>> pigments be coming from?

> Well the fins hold a lot of pigment, perhaps they are rotting or have some
> sort of infection.
> Dead betta stain tanks and surfaces with their colour.
> not a good look tho.
> somethings wrong!
========================
I agree. I hope he finds out what caused it and lets us know.
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[Koi-Lo]

Well I am totaly surprised that the infamous CArol Gulley could not
find the proper copy paste to "cure" that duimbased bettas problem.

I know just the cause and its out on the internet....duh..you mjust
need to do a bit of looking instead of trashing the
groups..........and I am not going to tell you until I read that the
betta bit the dust and went tits up! The answer is very very simple
and it wil amaze you when / if I ever reveal it.



On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:39:06 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
>><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>><>
>><>"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
u...
>><>>
>><>> "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
>><>> ...
>><>>> I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
>><>>> pigments be coming from?
>><>
>><>> Well the fins hold a lot of pigment, perhaps they are rotting or have some
>><>> sort of infection.
>><>> Dead betta stain tanks and surfaces with their colour.
>><>> not a good look tho.
>><>> somethings wrong!
>><>========================
>><>I agree. I hope he finds out what caused it and lets us know.

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OK, we''ll see what we can do.

His fins aren't as large and showy as they once were, but we attributed
that to old age. In the past we've tried the normal remedies for fin
disease to no avail.

Time to try again.

Thanks & will keep you updated.

--MikeW
swarvegorilla wrote:
> "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
> ...
> > *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
> >
> > "-ED" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> The whole topic gives me the whillies!
> >
> >> > wrote in message
> >> oups.com...
> >>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> >>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> >>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> >>> a sign of problems with the fish?
> > ====================
> > I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
> > pigments be coming from?
>
> Well the fins hold a lot of pigment, perhaps they are rotting or have some
> sort of infection.
> Dead betta stain tanks and surfaces with their colour.
> not a good look tho.
> somethings wrong!

[swarvegorilla]

See if the water was brown it would be the fish leaking blood out it's arse!
Blue means that it has to be leaking the pigment, not the melanin or guanine
or whatever but the actual chromo fingys.
This bowl buddys chemical is probably the cause, or it could be some strange
food.
I would say though that something in the move stressed the fish, not a good
sign as it must equate with perhaps an ammonia burn or something to destroy
and free pigments from the skin.
Anyway around 100 betta's in my life atm, all sorts of stuff.
I say it's not a good sign but then I'm not sure about this bowl buddy
thingy





"Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
...
> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>
> "Glassman" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
>>> a sign of problems with the fish?
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe he's an aristocratic fish and thus a blue blood? It 100% has got
>> to
>> be something other than the fish.
> ========================
> That's what I think as well. There is no way the fish's pigments can
> leave
> the fish and enter the water to color it......
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> All rude and/or obscene messages posted
> by my impersonator Roy.
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>
>
>

[swarvegorilla]

Well done Nikki.
had no idea what they were hey


"Nikki" > wrote in message
. ..
> bowl buddies (the white pill shape things) have blue in there if not done
> fizzing...the couple times i used them and did not stir the water i have
> blue color at the bottom of the tank.
> Nik
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> DC,
>>
>> No, Delphi is an old fish, we've had him since October 2002. Part of
>> our concern is that he's so old.
>>
>> We just changed the water, water was rested a few days & treated with
>> Bowl Buddies. No other additive, nothing that would change the color.
>> The water in Snobol's bowl is still clear.
>>
>> Delphi's bowl is always dirtier. He seems to defecate a lot! More than
>> Delphi or Pascal (another beta we used to have). But he's never turned
>> it colors before & this seemed to come from his mouth & gills.
>>
>> --MikeW
>>
>> dc wrote:
>>> " > wrote in
>>> oups.com:
>>>
>>> > We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
>>> > Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
>>> > blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal,
>>> > or
>>> > a sign of problems with the fish?
>>>
>>> It is definitely not normal for a Betta to leak coloured fluids.
>>>
>>> How new is your fish? Bettas are occasionally shipped in a malachite
>>> blue
>>> solution--the water is stained blue--but I've never heard of this
>>> chemical
>>> being trapped in the fish or later reappearing. Perhaps your Betta was
>>> dosed inapproperiately and malachite was swallowed or absorbed somehow,
>>> but
>>> that would still be extremely odd.
>>>
>>> Are you sure there is not another factor at play somewhere?
>>
>
>

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We dosed his bowl with bowl buddy. Since the bowl buddy stains water
blue it's hard to tell what is going on while he's being medicated.

However, after changing back to clean & unmedicated water, it seems to
have helped. No more blue from the mouth & gills and he seems a bit
more active.

He sems to be doing OK for such an old fella.

--MikeW


wrote:
> OK, we''ll see what we can do.
>
> His fins aren't as large and showy as they once were, but we attributed
> that to old age. In the past we've tried the normal remedies for fin
> disease to no avail.
>
> Time to try again.
>
> Thanks & will keep you updated.
>
> --MikeW
> swarvegorilla wrote:
> > "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
> > >
> > > "-ED" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> The whole topic gives me the whillies!
> > >
> > >> > wrote in message
> > >> oups.com...
> > >>> We have 2 betas, blue & pink. Jean changed their water today, and
> > >>> Delphi (the blue one) started exuding blue. The water is now a pale
> > >>> blue. It seemed to come from near his mouth & gills. Is this normal, or
> > >>> a sign of problems with the fish?
> > > ====================
> > > I never heard of this happening. It's really odd. Where would the color
> > > pigments be coming from?
> >
> > Well the fins hold a lot of pigment, perhaps they are rotting or have some
> > sort of infection.
> > Dead betta stain tanks and surfaces with their colour.
> > not a good look tho.
> > somethings wrong!