Lily Pad and mud

[Peter Smith]

I picked up a lily, put it in my 60 gal. pond.
I woke up this morning to find the water all milky. I did a water
change, but the water was a gray milky color again.

Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
out and left only the round bark and roots.
I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
it back in.
Do lily's have soil?
If so.
What kind of soil?
How deep?

[Peter Smith]

Oh ya, I did a water change again.
All clear now : )

[Koi-Lo]

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"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
>I picked up a lily, put it in my 60 gal. pond.
> I woke up this morning to find the water all milky. I did a water
> change, but the water was a gray milky color again.
>
> Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
> out and left only the round bark and roots.
> I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
> it back in.
> Do lily's have soil?
> If so.
> What kind of soil?
> How deep?
============================
For myself they do best in a rich garden clay type soil with a Jobe's Rose
Spike broken into thirds and inserted around the pot. The leaves are large,
numerous and there are many flowers over the summer. The soil is covered
with gravel to keep the the soil from easily escaping the pots.
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[Gail Futoran]

"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
>I picked up a lily, put it in my 60 gal. pond.
> I woke up this morning to find the water all milky. I did a water
> change, but the water was a gray milky color again.
>
> Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
> out and left only the round bark and roots.
> I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
> it back in.
> Do lily's have soil?
> If so.
> What kind of soil?
> How deep?

Plants I buy from a local pond store are
potted in soil. I get the gray milky color but
it settles in time. A 60 gal pond is very small
and might take a bit longer to settle.

If you're really concerned, you might call
or revisit your supplier and ask what the lily
was planted in.

Gail
near San Antonio TX USA

[~Roy]

Probably was planted in ikitty litter or bentonite (sodium )
clay...........that woul dmake it thecolor you state, and its a common
medium for companies to use it to plant aquatic plants in.

On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 21:56:14 -0400, (Peter Smith)
wrote:
>><>I picked up a lily, put it in my 60 gal. pond.
>><>I woke up this morning to find the water all milky. I did a water
>><>change, but the water was a gray milky color again.
>><>
>><>Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
>><>out and left only the round bark and roots.
>><> I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
>><>it back in.
>><>Do lily's have soil?
>><>If so.
>><>What kind of soil?
>><>How deep?

[~Roy]

But CArol Gulley says tomatoe and rose fertilizer stakes are more
thansufficient for lily fertilization........duh! Probably why she has
to add all the supplements she has to add.........aout like her cat
fish chow for her koi being more than adequate......Nothing but a
cheap ased bitch

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:09:37 -0400, Hal > wrote:
>><>On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 21:56:14 -0400, (Peter Smith)
>><>wrote:
>><>
>><>>Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
>><>>out and left only the round bark and roots.
>><>> I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
>><>>it back in.
>><>>Do lily's have soil?
>><>>If so.
>><>>What kind of soil?
>><>>How deep?
>><>
>><>I found it more difficult to fertilize the pebbles media, but some
>><>have ponds that apparently don't need fertilizer added to make good
>><>lily growth, or perhaps the see things differently from me. I wish
>><>you well, and I would suggest a long lasting fertilizer like
>><>Aquatic-Spikes once a year fertilizer (Time Released) fertilizer since
>><>my experience with regular fertilizers like Job's tomato stakes didn't
>><>seem to last well. They dissolve into the water and leach out of the
>><>stones much quicker than they would out of garden soil or clay media.
>><>
>><>Regards,
>><>
>><>Hal

[Koi-Lo]

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"Hal" > wrote in message
...
> I found it more difficult to fertilize the pebbles media, but some
> have ponds that apparently don't need fertilizer added to make good
> lily growth, or perhaps the see things differently from me.

Derek has water that grows lilies without soil or fertilizer. I have no
such luck and have to plant mine in soil and fertilize them if I want decent
growth an any flowers at all.

I wish
> you well, and I would suggest a long lasting fertilizer like
> Aquatic-Spikes once a year fertilizer (Time Released) fertilizer since
> my experience with regular fertilizers like Job's tomato stakes didn't
> seem to last well.

In soil they last all summer.

They dissolve into the water and leach out of the
> stones much quicker than they would out of garden soil or clay media.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hal
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[Koi-Lo]

Koi-Lo

> Thankless fast-girl with generous camel hoof and emasculated mogambos
> wants to meet inferior handy andy for atrocious bit of ****. Mail me
> at <Reply to NG Only>

[Koi-Lo]

Who cares about your
Neibors" pnd carol you certianly do not have one now do yu, no matter
whose pics yu put up and proclaim to be yours, you simply do not have
a pond..........nor the common sense requred to keep a pnd or aquatic
plants. Its what you find on the web and claim as yours..........

Once a liar always a liar,

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:06:43 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
>><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>><>
>><>"Hal" > wrote in message
...
>><>> I found it more difficult to fertilize the pebbles media, but some
>><>> have ponds that apparently don't need fertilizer added to make good
>><>> lily growth, or perhaps the see things differently from me.
>><>
>><>Derek has water that grows lilies without soil or fertilizer. I have no
>><>such luck and have to plant mine in soil and fertilize them if I want decent
>><>growth an any flowers at all.
>><>
>><> I wish
>><>> you well, and I would suggest a long lasting fertilizer like
>><>> Aquatic-Spikes once a year fertilizer (Time Released) fertilizer since
>><>> my experience with regular fertilizers like Job's tomato stakes didn't
>><>> seem to last well.
>><>
>><>In soil they last all summer.
>><>
>><> They dissolve into the water and leach out of the
>><>> stones much quicker than they would out of garden soil or clay media.
>><>>
>><>> Regards,
>><>>
>><>> Hal

[Peter Smith]

Thank's to all
2 questions that were not answered.
1. Do they have to have soil?
2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?

[Koi-Lo]

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"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Thank's to all
> 2 questions that were not answered.
> 1. Do they have to have soil?
> 2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?
==================================
Soil: In my opinion and in my ponds and water conditions - yes.
Depth: I try at have at least 18" of water over the rim of their pots.
About 12" for the mini lilies.
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[Lákáwáná]

Koi-Lo

> *Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

And your research is based on what?

> >.

Two Wongs Don't Make a White.

> "Peter Smith" > wrote in message
> news:4648-44873291-78@storefull-3314.

I told your boss about you.

> bay.

I don't need your help, thanks. [Sarcastically]

> webtv.net..

I work all night, and when your children skate on the sidewalk at 3:30
in the afternoon, it wakes me up.

> HELP! My brain has fallen out!

Is that your last Will and Testament, Koi-Lo?

> Soil: In my opinion and in my ponds and water conditions - yes.

Yes?

> Depth: I try at have at least 18" of water over the rim of their pots.

How many times have you tried at have at least 18" of water over the rim
of their pots?

> About 12" for the mini lilies.

For someone your age? Come on, you're a piker.

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LW..........
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>

[Koi-Lo]

You mean in your neighbors ponds don't you? YU do not have ponds and
you steal anduse others pics and say they are yur ponds and
tanks..your a liar and always will be a liar......

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:35:24 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
>><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
>><>
>><>"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Thank's to all
>><>> 2 questions that were not answered.
>><>> 1. Do they have to have soil?
>><>> 2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?
>><>==================================
>><>Soil: In my opinion and in my ponds and water conditions - yes.
>><>Depth: I try at have at least 18" of water over the rim of their pots.
>><>About 12" for the mini lilies.

[Roy]

"Koi-Lo" aka > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Who cares about your
> Neibors" pnd roy you certianly do not have one now do yu, no matter
> whose pics yu put up and proclaim to be yours, you simply do not have
> a pond..........nor the common sense requred to keep a pnd or aquatic
> plants. Its what you find on the web and claim as yours..........
>
> Once a liar always a liar,
>
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:06:43 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
> >><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
> >><>
> >><>"Hal" > wrote in message
> ...
> >><>> I found it more difficult to fertilize the pebbles media, but some
> >><>> have ponds that apparently don't need fertilizer added to make good
> >><>> lily growth, or perhaps the see things differently from me.
> >><>
> >><>Derek has water that grows lilies without soil or fertilizer. I have
no
> >><>such luck and have to plant mine in soil and fertilize them if I want
decent
> >><>growth an any flowers at all.
> >><>
> >><> I wish
> >><>> you well, and I would suggest a long lasting fertilizer like
> >><>> Aquatic-Spikes once a year fertilizer (Time Released) fertilizer
since
> >><>> my experience with regular fertilizers like Job's tomato stakes
didn't
> >><>> seem to last well.
> >><>
> >><>In soil they last all summer.
> >><>
> >><> They dissolve into the water and leach out of the
> >><>> stones much quicker than they would out of garden soil or clay
media.
> >><>>
> >><>> Regards,
> >><>>
> >><>> Hal
>

[Roy]

"Koi-Lo" aka > wrote in message
...
>
>
> You mean in your neighbors ponds don't you? YU do not have ponds and
> you steal anduse others pics and say they are yur ponds and
> tanks..your a liar and always will be a liar......
>
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:35:24 -0500, "Koi-Lo" <Reply to NG Only> wrote:
> >><>*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
> >><>
> >><>"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >><>> Thank's to all
> >><>> 2 questions that were not answered.
> >><>> 1. Do they have to have soil?
> >><>> 2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?
> >><>==================================
> >><>Soil: In my opinion and in my ponds and water conditions - yes.
> >><>Depth: I try at have at least 18" of water over the rim of their
pots.
> >><>About 12" for the mini lilies.
>

[Roy]

"Koi-Lo" aka Roy > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I think kevin is in dire need of a tranquillizer or two.Chill out
> dude, Princes Di is dead and no amound of hurrying up is gonna
> change that... better yet, go ask your stupid questions on google run
> by and for brits!

"Koi-Lo" <Reply t0 NG Only> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> Koi-Lo
>
> > Thankless fast-girl with generous camel hoof and emasculated mogambos
> > wants to meet inferior handy andy for atrocious bit of ****. Mail me
> > at <Reply to NG Only>

[~Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...


Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......

"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
> I picked up a lily, put it in my 60 gal. pond.
> I woke up this morning to find the water all milky. I did a water
> change, but the water was a gray milky color again.
>
> Today when I got home from work I took the plant out, washed all the mud
> out and left only the round bark and roots.
> I took pea gravel, put the plant in a terra cotta flower pot, then put
> it back in.
> Do lily's have soil?
> If so.
> What kind of soil?
> How deep?
>

[~Roy]

"~Roy" aka Koi-Lo > wrote in message
...


Its b****ing asholes like you that keep the noise level going. Your
the first ****ing moron to snap today......you poor pityful
looser......

"Peter Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Thank's to all
> 2 questions that were not answered.
> 1. Do they have to have soil?
> 2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?
>

[Derek Broughton]

Peter Smith wrote:

> Thank's to all
> 2 questions that were not answered.
> 1. Do they have to have soil?

No. I plant bare root - I just wire the tuber to a rock! I thought the
question _was_ in fact answered by the poster who said that some have
success...

> 2. How deep or how far do they have to be from the water line?

It all depends on the lilies. I've had some that did great down to 5'.
I've had dwarf varieties that shouldn't be more than a few inches below the
surface. Generally, I start dwarfs out at about 2" below the surface, and
lower them as they develop, to no more than 18" (sometimes as little as
6"). Larger varieties, I start at about 18" and lower them as their pads
start reaching the surface.
--
derek