Not so.Yellow Ogon

[BoyPete]

Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish grey,
except their tails.
We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had dropped 4
degrees in that time.
Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
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[Koi-Lo]

"BoyPete" > wrote in message
...
> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish grey,
> except their tails.
> We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had dropped 4
> degrees in that time.
> Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
======================
I have yellow Ogon and never saw this happen after a heavy rain and
temperature drop. I never saw it happen in their fry either. My biggest
koi, a female 7 or 8 years old, is a yellow Ogon. Her color never changes.
Please post back if you discover what caused the change of color. I'm
curious.......
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[BoyPete]

Koi-Lo wrote:
> "BoyPete" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish
>> grey, except their tails.
>> We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had
>> dropped 4 degrees in that time.
>> Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
> ======================
> I have yellow Ogon and never saw this happen after a heavy rain and
> temperature drop. I never saw it happen in their fry either. My
> biggest koi, a female 7 or 8 years old, is a yellow Ogon. Her color
> never changes. Please post back if you discover what caused the
> change of color. I'm curious.......

I'm only a few months into pond/fish keeping. I'm not keen on netting them
for a better look, in case the stress is detrimental. All the fish were slow
to eat tonight............never known that before. I'll test the water
tomorrow evening (I'm in London UK).
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ßôyþëtë

[Koi-Lo]

"BoyPete" > wrote in message
...
> Koi-Lo wrote:
>> "BoyPete" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish
>>> grey, except their tails.
>>> We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had
>>> dropped 4 degrees in that time.
>>> Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
>> ======================
>> I have yellow Ogon and never saw this happen after a heavy rain and
>> temperature drop. I never saw it happen in their fry either. My
>> biggest koi, a female 7 or 8 years old, is a yellow Ogon. Her color
>> never changes. Please post back if you discover what caused the
>> change of color. I'm curious.......
>
> I'm only a few months into pond/fish keeping. I'm not keen on netting them
> for a better look, in case the stress is detrimental. All the fish were
> slow to eat tonight............never known that before. I'll test the
> water tomorrow evening (I'm in London UK).
> --
> ßôyþëtë
==========================
If something is wrong you may not want to wait that long. Loss of appetite
is not a good sign. That and changing color that quickly would have me out
there running every test I have. Could the torrential rain have caused a
serious rapid drop in PH and TDS (total dissolved solids)? Just a
suggestion, but I wouldn't wait.
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[BoyPete]

Koi-Lo wrote:
> "BoyPete" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Koi-Lo wrote:
>>> "BoyPete" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish
>>>> grey, except their tails.
>>>> We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had
>>>> dropped 4 degrees in that time.
>>>> Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
>>> ======================
>>> I have yellow Ogon and never saw this happen after a heavy rain and
>>> temperature drop. I never saw it happen in their fry either. My
>>> biggest koi, a female 7 or 8 years old, is a yellow Ogon. Her color
>>> never changes. Please post back if you discover what caused the
>>> change of color. I'm curious.......
>>
>> I'm only a few months into pond/fish keeping. I'm not keen on
>> netting them for a better look, in case the stress is detrimental.
>> All the fish were slow to eat tonight............never known that
>> before. I'll test the water tomorrow evening (I'm in London UK).
>> --
>> ßôyþëtë
> ==========================
> If something is wrong you may not want to wait that long. Loss of
> appetite is not a good sign. That and changing color that quickly
> would have me out there running every test I have. Could the
> torrential rain have caused a serious rapid drop in PH and TDS (total
> dissolved solids)? Just a suggestion, but I wouldn't wait.

I don't know..........that's why I asked........I'm new to this. It's 10pm
here, I'm I have to go to bed .....up at 5am for work.
All the fish did eat eventually.........all the food given. I'll visually
check them before I go tomorrow. Thanks for your input :)
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[~ janj]

>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:09:03 +0100, "BoyPete" > wrote:

>Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish grey,
>except their tails. We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had dropped 4
>degrees in that time. Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??

Usually sudden color changes are related to water quality. So it will be
interesting to see what your's tests out to be. Besides pH you'll need to
test KH, buffering. Not enough buffering causes pH to crash. ~ jan
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~Keep 'em Wet!~
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[Lone Gunner]

I see Boi Pete is back to droll all over Koi Lo some more, I hope this
itme he remembers to mop uo the floor. The degenerate little puke. I
bet Pete Boi screws his Ogon, and hollers out Oh Carolyn, Oh Carolyn.
But he oculd also holler out Oh, Randy. Oh Randy......But I have a
question for little pete boi.Wjhat makes that yellow stripe up the
middle of your back there boi?

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:08:54 -0500, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:

>
>"BoyPete" > wrote in message
...
>> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish grey,
>> except their tails.
>> We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had dropped 4
>> degrees in that time.
>> Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
>======================
>I have yellow Ogon and never saw this happen after a heavy rain and
>temperature drop. I never saw it happen in their fry either. My biggest
>koi, a female 7 or 8 years old, is a yellow Ogon. Her color never changes.
>Please post back if you discover what caused the change of color. I'm
>curious.......


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[Lone Gunner]

Reall says who? Carolyn Gulley must have taught this Jsan everythng
she knows.......O have a fe minutes tel me all you know Jan, but leave
ouot your love affair for Caroloyn Gulley. The remaining knowledge
should fill a 3 minute window if you stutter.



On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:33:44 -0700, ~ janj >
wrote:

>>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:09:03 +0100, "BoyPete" > wrote:
>
>>Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish grey,
>>except their tails. We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and water temp had dropped 4
>>degrees in that time. Could that be the problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
>
>Usually sudden color changes are related to water quality. So it will be
>interesting to see what your's tests out to be. Besides pH you'll need to
>test KH, buffering. Not enough buffering causes pH to crash. ~ jan
>--------------
>See my ponds and filter design:
>www.jjspond.us
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website


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[Lone Gunner]

Hello there sissy boy pete
See what urinating in your pond does, it makes the fishes color fade
out. ****ting in the water causes different problems so thats not the
cause.



On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:31:22 +0100, "BoyPete" >
wrote:

>~ janj wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:09:03 +0100, "BoyPete" >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Over the last 24 hours, my two Yellow Ogon have turned a darkish
>>> grey,
>>> except their tails. We had storms and torrential rain yesterday, and
>>> water temp had dropped 4 degrees in that time. Could that be the
>>> problem? Will it reverse?? Other ideas??
>>
>> Usually sudden color changes are related to water quality. So it will
>> be interesting to see what your's tests out to be. Besides pH you'll
>> need to test KH, buffering. Not enough buffering causes pH to crash.
>> ~ jan --------------
>> See my ponds and filter design:
>> www.jjspond.us
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website
>
>PH 8/Ammonia 0/nitrite 0/nitrate 0. I don't have a test for KH.
>However, one Ogon is beggining to return to it's proper colour, the other
>remains dark grey except it's tail. I'm still going with the torrential rain
>theory.....it mutr have been icey cold, and the water level rose by approx
>an inch. All fish fed well, and normally tonight.


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[~ janj]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:31:22 +0100, "BoyPete" > wrote:

>PH 8/Ammonia 0/nitrite 0/nitrate 0. I don't have a test for KH.

Rain usually dilute the buffering. Test pH at dusk and dawn, if there is a
swing of more than .4-.5 you need buffering. ~ jan
-----------------
(Do you know where your water quality is?)
Also ponding troll free at:
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

[BoyPete]

~ janj wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:31:22 +0100, "BoyPete" >
> wrote:
>
>> PH 8/Ammonia 0/nitrite 0/nitrate 0. I don't have a test for KH.
>
> Rain usually dilute the buffering. Test pH at dusk and dawn, if there
> is a swing of more than .4-.5 you need buffering. ~ jan
> -----------------
> (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> Also ponding troll free at:
> http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

thanks :)
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[Lone Gunner]

Read yet the other posts made by JanJ there Pete Boy, she is basically
telling you to take hike as she is throwing in the towel in the
rec.ponds group. You need to go sign up in ther google sanctuary.
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:13:06 +0100, "BoyPete" >
wrote:

>~ janj wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:31:22 +0100, "BoyPete" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PH 8/Ammonia 0/nitrite 0/nitrate 0. I don't have a test for KH.
>>
>> Rain usually dilute the buffering. Test pH at dusk and dawn, if there
>> is a swing of more than .4-.5 you need buffering. ~ jan
>> -----------------
>> (Do you know where your water quality is?)
>> Also ponding troll free at:
>>
>
>thanks :)


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[BoyPete]

Lone Gunner wrote:
> Read yet the other posts made by JanJ there Pete Boy, she is basically
> telling you to take hike as she is throwing in the towel in the
> rec.ponds group. You need to go sign up in ther google sanctuary.
> http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium

'Lone' gunner....... I'm not suprised.

[Köi-Lö]

Yea he is an asshole ain't he Pete. I want tot suck your dick Pete Boy

Love ya Carol Gulley

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:43:55 +0100, "BoyPete" >
wrote:

>Lone Gunner wrote:
>> Read yet the other posts made by JanJ there Pete Boy, she is basically
>> telling you to take hike as she is throwing in the towel in the
>> rec.ponds group. You need to go sign up in ther google sanctuary.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium
>
>'Lone' gunner....... I'm not suprised.
>


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[Köi-Lö]

Give me a call sometime Pete.....my address and telephone number is
plastered all over the internet and these groups...I am easy to find
and easy to lay.


On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:43:55 +0100, "BoyPete" >
wrote:

>Lone Gunner wrote:
>> Read yet the other posts made by JanJ there Pete Boy, she is basically
>> telling you to take hike as she is throwing in the towel in the
>> rec.ponds group. You need to go sign up in ther google sanctuary.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium
>
>'Lone' gunner....... I'm not suprised.
>


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[~ janj]

>Lone Gunner wrote:
>> Read yet the other posts made by JanJ there Pete Boy, she is basically
>> telling you to take hike as she is throwing in the towel in the
>> rec.ponds group. You need to go sign up in ther google sanctuary.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium
>
>'Lone' gunner....... I'm not suprised.
>
No one has to sign up, the suggestion is in my sig. for those who can't
handle the profanity here, and/or can't filter fast enough. As long as real
ponders post here, so shall I. :-p ~ jan
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(Do you know where your water quality is?)
Also ponding troll free at:
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