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July 13th 06, 05:52 PM
first, if you are seeing a lot of poops you are overfeeding the fish. it is
essential to buy the highest quality GF food you can find and keep it frozen. high
quality foods have something like krill or fish in first couple ingredients and VERY
LITTLE grains, like corn or wheat.
second, if you put in big airstones about an inch off the bottom of the tank the
water will circulate bottom to top and the big filter will suck all that stuff up. I
recommend something like a whisper filter, one rated for a 40 gallon tank put on a 20
gallon tank, an 80-100 rated for a 40 gallon tank, or, (2) 40 gallon whispers.
undergravel filters have problems. the crud really builds up.
here are all the reasons not to have gravel for goldfish. and in ponds gravel is
rarely used.
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/care/care1.htm#GRAVEL

You wrote:

>Thank your for your tips Ingrid!! The Fish is eating and seems to be
>doing fine now. It is still recovering its skin pretty slowly. . We
>took off the gravels...but their ammonia was still high. Them we wanted
>to put one more filter so we decided to get the under gravel filter,
>because a lot of their poop was showing in the bottom, we had to clean
>everyday, so we put the gravel back, under gravel filter and power
>head, to suck their waste and run air trough the gravel (we also have
>big gravels so they cant swallow it). it is a interesting system. I
>will let you know how it works, and if it works. If it doesn't I
>will remove the gravel again...I like the system without the gravels
>because you can see how much they eat, and they can eat all without
>losing in the gravel but it looks really odd without the gravel...so
>we are hopping the under gravel system works.



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July 15th 06, 12:39 AM
glass bottom which gradually turns green with algae. until then it is cool to see
the fish reflected in the bottom. Ingrid

wrote:

>so what is on the bottom of the tank if no gravel? Just big rocks and
>the bottom glass?
>I like the idea about no gravel.
>
>Craig
>
>
wrote:
>> first, if you are seeing a lot of poops you are overfeeding the fish. it is
>> essential to buy the highest quality GF food you can find and keep it frozen. high
>> quality foods have something like krill or fish in first couple ingredients and VERY
>> LITTLE grains, like corn or wheat.
>> second, if you put in big airstones about an inch off the bottom of the tank the
>> water will circulate bottom to top and the big filter will suck all that stuff up. I
>> recommend something like a whisper filter, one rated for a 40 gallon tank put on a 20
>> gallon tank, an 80-100 rated for a 40 gallon tank, or, (2) 40 gallon whispers.
>> undergravel filters have problems. the crud really builds up.
>> here are all the reasons not to have gravel for goldfish. and in ponds gravel is
>> rarely used.
>> http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/care/care1.htm#GRAVEL
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> >Thank your for your tips Ingrid!! The Fish is eating and seems to be
>> >doing fine now. It is still recovering its skin pretty slowly. . We
>> >took off the gravels...but their ammonia was still high. Them we wanted
>> >to put one more filter so we decided to get the under gravel filter,
>> >because a lot of their poop was showing in the bottom, we had to clean
>> >everyday, so we put the gravel back, under gravel filter and power
>> >head, to suck their waste and run air trough the gravel (we also have
>> >big gravels so they cant swallow it). it is a interesting system. I
>> >will let you know how it works, and if it works. If it doesn't I
>> >will remove the gravel again...I like the system without the gravels
>> >because you can see how much they eat, and they can eat all without
>> >losing in the gravel but it looks really odd without the gravel...so
>> >we are hopping the under gravel system works.
>>
>>
>>
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I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
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