Argh! Tetra Disease

[SS]

My 55 gal has been hit with NTD, Cardinals and Glowlights all gone, only
my little zebra danios left. Do I have any other options to rid my tank
of this disease short of tearing it all down?

SS

[dc]

SS > wrote in news:lTHxg.245733$IK3.7409
@pd7tw1no:

> My 55 gal has been hit with NTD, Cardinals and Glowlights all gone, only
> my little zebra danios left. Do I have any other options to rid my tank
> of this disease short of tearing it all down?


Are you sure it is Neon Tetra Disease? The scale of death suggests F.
columnaris bacteria to me. NTD is not limited to tetras; it can affect
barbs, rasboras, angelfish, and probably many others.

NTD is caused by an internal sporozoan parasite. No one really knows how it
is transmitted, but many suspect that it is through ingestion of infected
tissue (i.e. the eating of dead infected fish). The progression of NTD is
generally slow and it can take a relatively long time for a fish to die
after the first appearance of symptoms. There is no effective treatment
other than to remove and euthanize the affected fish before the disease
spreads to other fish--this generally controls the spread of the disease
quite well.

An internal columnaris infect looks superficially like NTD but the time
between the appearance of symptoms and death of the fish is much shorter
and spread of the infection is generally much faster. F. columnaris can be
treated using anti-bacteria chemicals or by using gram-negative
antibiotics.

[SS]

dc wrote:
> SS > wrote in news:lTHxg.245733$IK3.7409
> @pd7tw1no:
>
>> My 55 gal has been hit with NTD, Cardinals and Glowlights all gone, only
>> my little zebra danios left. Do I have any other options to rid my tank
>> of this disease short of tearing it all down?
>
>
> Are you sure it is Neon Tetra Disease? The scale of death suggests F.
> columnaris bacteria to me. NTD is not limited to tetras; it can affect
> barbs, rasboras, angelfish, and probably many others.
>
> NTD is caused by an internal sporozoan parasite. No one really knows how it
> is transmitted, but many suspect that it is through ingestion of infected
> tissue (i.e. the eating of dead infected fish). The progression of NTD is
> generally slow and it can take a relatively long time for a fish to die
> after the first appearance of symptoms. There is no effective treatment
> other than to remove and euthanize the affected fish before the disease
> spreads to other fish--this generally controls the spread of the disease
> quite well.
>
> An internal columnaris infect looks superficially like NTD but the time
> between the appearance of symptoms and death of the fish is much shorter
> and spread of the infection is generally much faster. F. columnaris can be
> treated using anti-bacteria chemicals or by using gram-negative
> antibiotics.

Thanks for the info, I never knew about internal columnaris. The deaths
spread like wildfire, a matter of hours. They started getting white
areas that just kept growing until it covered all transparent areas on
the fish. Also lost one z.danio. Can anyone recommend a gram-negative
antibiotic? Most of the stuff I've seen is gram-positive.

Thanks
SS

[Köi-Lö]

"SS" > wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the info, I never knew about internal columnaris. The deaths
> spread like wildfire, a matter of hours. They started getting white areas
> that just kept growing until it covered all transparent areas on the fish.
> Also lost one z.danio. Can anyone recommend a gram-negative antibiotic?
> Most of the stuff I've seen is gram-positive.
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Furicin and Furinace should get both gram negative and gram positive
bacteria. I think I got the spelling correct. Foster & Smith and I believe
That Fish Place both carry it.
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[carlrs]

SS wrote:

> Thanks for the info, I never knew about internal columnaris. The deaths
> spread like wildfire, a matter of hours. They started getting white
> areas that just kept growing until it covered all transparent areas on
> the fish. Also lost one z.danio. Can anyone recommend a gram-negative
> antibiotic? Most of the stuff I've seen is gram-positive.

Nitrofurazone and Kanamycin Sulfate are an excellent combination for
columnaris also known as flexibacter. Pimafix has also been shown to be
extremely effective for this and is non antibiotic.
Here is a site that lists many antibiotics and wheter they are gram
negative or positive and what they are effective against.
http://aquarium-medictions.blogspot.com/

Carl

[SS]

carlrs wrote:
> SS wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info, I never knew about internal columnaris. The deaths
>> spread like wildfire, a matter of hours. They started getting white
>> areas that just kept growing until it covered all transparent areas on
>> the fish. Also lost one z.danio. Can anyone recommend a gram-negative
>> antibiotic? Most of the stuff I've seen is gram-positive.
>
> Nitrofurazone and Kanamycin Sulfate are an excellent combination for
> columnaris also known as flexibacter. Pimafix has also been shown to be
> extremely effective for this and is non antibiotic.
> Here is a site that lists many antibiotics and wheter they are gram
> negative or positive and what they are effective against.
> http://aquarium-medictions.blogspot.com/
>
> Carl
>
Great site! Thanks Carl!

SS

[swarvegorilla]

doxycycline


"SS" > wrote in message
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> My 55 gal has been hit with NTD, Cardinals and Glowlights all gone, only
> my little zebra danios left. Do I have any other options to rid my tank of
> this disease short of tearing it all down?
>
> SS