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Ron Cliborn
August 13th 06, 11:23 AM
I'm not a dealer or trying to advertise for any sites.
That being said, does anyone have any GloFish®?
Can you tell me anything about them that you have found?

Don't know what they are? They are promoted as fish that glow in the
dark. But I think they just glow under black light.

TIA for any responses.
All address of flamers are sent to my lonely Mother - In - Law.


Moi

swarvegorilla
August 14th 06, 07:00 AM
As far as I know they haven't made it into Australia yet....
They legal in the US?


"Ron Cliborn" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not a dealer or trying to advertise for any sites.
> That being said, does anyone have any GloFish®?
> Can you tell me anything about them that you have found?
>
> Don't know what they are? They are promoted as fish that glow in the
> dark. But I think they just glow under black light.
>
> TIA for any responses.
> All address of flamers are sent to my lonely Mother - In - Law.
>
>
> Moi

jake
August 14th 06, 06:23 PM
I think there's only a few places in the US where they are sold, and
none are near me.

swarvegorilla wrote:
> As far as I know they haven't made it into Australia yet....
> They legal in the US?
>
>
> "Ron Cliborn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not a dealer or trying to advertise for any sites.
> > That being said, does anyone have any GloFish®?
> > Can you tell me anything about them that you have found?
> >
> > Don't know what they are? They are promoted as fish that glow in the
> > dark. But I think they just glow under black light.
> >
> > TIA for any responses.
> > All address of flamers are sent to my lonely Mother - In - Law.
> >
> >
> > Moi

swarvegorilla
August 15th 06, 03:37 AM
Could prob make some serious $$$$ breeding the things
sterile they say but c'mon
how hard can it be to find a fertile danio?
ok so maybe pretty hard but yea.....
money
yum



"jake" > wrote in message
ups.com...
I think there's only a few places in the US where they are sold, and
none are near me.

swarvegorilla wrote:
> As far as I know they haven't made it into Australia yet....
> They legal in the US?
>
>
> "Ron Cliborn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not a dealer or trying to advertise for any sites.
> > That being said, does anyone have any GloFish®?
> > Can you tell me anything about them that you have found?
> >
> > Don't know what they are? They are promoted as fish that glow in the
> > dark. But I think they just glow under black light.
> >
> > TIA for any responses.
> > All address of flamers are sent to my lonely Mother - In - Law.
> >
> >
> > Moi

jake
August 15th 06, 05:58 AM
$_$

swarvegorilla wrote:
> Could prob make some serious $$$$ breeding the things
> sterile they say but c'mon
> how hard can it be to find a fertile danio?
> ok so maybe pretty hard but yea.....
> money
> yum
>
>
>
> "jake" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> I think there's only a few places in the US where they are sold, and
> none are near me.
>
> swarvegorilla wrote:
> > As far as I know they haven't made it into Australia yet....
> > They legal in the US?
> >
> >
> > "Ron Cliborn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm not a dealer or trying to advertise for any sites.
> > > That being said, does anyone have any GloFish®?
> > > Can you tell me anything about them that you have found?
> > >
> > > Don't know what they are? They are promoted as fish that glow in the
> > > dark. But I think they just glow under black light.
> > >
> > > TIA for any responses.
> > > All address of flamers are sent to my lonely Mother - In - Law.
> > >
> > >
> > > Moi

Ron Cliborn
August 16th 06, 10:57 AM
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:37:33 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
> wrote:

>Could prob make some serious $$$$ breeding the things
>sterile they say but c'mon
>how hard can it be to find a fertile danio?
>ok so maybe pretty hard but yea.....
>money

They are US$5 each and they are not sterile. Better yet, the breed
"True." ie. the gene passes on to the offspring.

RONin

Geoffrey S. Mendelson
August 16th 06, 11:21 AM
Ron Cliborn wrote:
> They are US$5 each and they are not sterile. Better yet, the breed
> "True." ie. the gene passes on to the offspring.

They were bred to be sterile. Like everything else in life, mutations,
forced or accidental, continue only in offspring. So if 1 fish in a
million is not sterile, it will breed and if they trait is dominant it
will be passed on to the offspring whether or not the other fish has it.
If it is recessive, it needs two parents with it.

Since fish breed in such large quantities, it does not take long for
them to find the right combination.

A perfect example of this is what was commonly known as the "brown ditch fish"
in Thailand. Occasionaly one would be born with a purple color. About 30 years
ago, one person decided to find the purple ones and breed them. Now you can
buy them in any store, sold by their latin name Betta Splendins.

This is a perfect example of evolution, but it is important to note that
the purple fancy tailed Bettas, are still considered the same species
as their dull brown short tailed ancestors.

Geoff.

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swarvegorilla
August 20th 06, 12:59 AM
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" > wrote in message
...
> Ron Cliborn wrote:
>> They are US$5 each and they are not sterile. Better yet, the breed
>> "True." ie. the gene passes on to the offspring.
>
> They were bred to be sterile. Like everything else in life, mutations,
> forced or accidental, continue only in offspring. So if 1 fish in a
> million is not sterile, it will breed and if they trait is dominant it
> will be passed on to the offspring whether or not the other fish has it.
> If it is recessive, it needs two parents with it.
>
> Since fish breed in such large quantities, it does not take long for
> them to find the right combination.
>
> A perfect example of this is what was commonly known as the "brown ditch
> fish"
> in Thailand. Occasionaly one would be born with a purple color. About 30
> years
> ago, one person decided to find the purple ones and breed them. Now you
> can
> buy them in any store, sold by their latin name Betta Splendins.
>
> This is a perfect example of evolution, but it is important to note that
> the purple fancy tailed Bettas, are still considered the same species
> as their dull brown short tailed ancestors.
>
> Geoff.
>

yea assumed it wouldn't be long
first person to get them going over here in OZ will make some cash tho
jeez danios can pull of some good spawns
not a bad feeder to raise in winter..... with rosey barbs, paradise fish,
goldys, danios and swordtails all on the go I can feed anything.
:-)

swarvegorilla
August 21st 06, 02:20 AM
actually the place to score some would probably be to ask on
bionet.organisms.zebrafish
always worth a shot anyway

Ronn Cliiborn
August 29th 06, 02:30 AM
>They were bred to be sterile. Like everything else in life, mutations,
>forced or accidental, continue only in offspring. So if 1 fish in a
>million is not sterile, it will breed and if they trait is dominant it
>will be passed on to the offspring whether or not the other fish has it.
>If it is recessive, it needs two parents with it.

Not all hybrids breed true. And I'd guess when you get into genetic
manipulation you get even more uncertain results.


>
>Since fish breed in such large quantities, it does not take long for
>them to find the right combination.
>
>A perfect example of this is what was commonly known as the "brown ditch fish"
>in Thailand. Occasionaly one would be born with a purple color. About 30 years
>ago, one person decided to find the purple ones and breed them. Now you can
>buy them in any store, sold by their latin name Betta Splendins.

That is called Genetic Shift, right?


>This is a perfect example of evolution, but it is important to note that
>the purple fancy tailed Bettas, are still considered the same species
>as their dull brown short tailed ancestors.

As long as they can breed offspring that can reproduce they are the
same species.

But an OT question: If dogs are the same species, what are say Great
Danes to a Blood Hound? Different subspecies?
And a very non-PC question, what about people? Are different races of
people different subspecies?
You sounded like you might know so I figured I"d give it a shoot.

Thanks
Ron

swarvegorilla
August 29th 06, 05:06 AM
Fish are strange ones.
Whoever said hybrids could breed....... is/is not/maybe tellin' the truth.
it can and prob will change
but will my flowerhorn cross blood parrots breed fertile young?
probably if you use enough pairs and try long enough