New Tank

[BC]

Hi,

I have a 54 Litre tank, brand new. I conditioned the water and have put
two fresh water goldfish in. They are starting to get small white spots :(

Is this ich? I am a total newbie but animal lover and I want to treat
asap. I've done a lot of research on the web and the amount of
conflicting ways of dealing not dealing with this problem is incredible.
I'm not even sure if it's ich, they seem fine, they are very active.
They eat when fed. What would you fine people think. I'm using a juwel
rekord 60 tank, the filteration is good. I only have them a week. I've
changed the white filter today. I will change the others according to
the schedule. The water is clear and the temp is about 76f


Any suggestions?

Yours in hope,
BC

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http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/care/care1.htm#essentials
14 gallons is not enough for 2 fish.
Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature.
check under "white spots" here
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/disease.htm

Rule of thumb:
1. it is difficult to diagnose problem on the internet. you have included a few
salient points, but there is much, much more information needed. Best is having a
fish vet come to the house and diagnose (dream on). Next best is phoning someone who
knows fish disease and will ask a zillion questions before offering an opinion. One
such is the Goldfish Guru, Jo Ann Burke 251-649-4790. Next is filling out the sick
fish form http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/sfques.html

2. LESS IS BETTER. DO NOT start dumping medications and treatments into the water
without knowing what the problem is. Fish are routinely killed by "medications".
Fresh water, that is, tub to tub method
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#TUB_TO_TUB
is most likely to bring a fish around. A little salt in the water is better than
most meds unless you have a very good idea of what the problem is, or you been
talking to Jo Ann.

3. New fish are very tricky because mostly you dont know what they dumped in the
water at the fish store. Using chems at this point could fry their gills and kill
em, so be careful. unless you have water from hell, clean treated, aerated water is
the best medicine for GF.

Ingrid


BC > wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have a 54 Litre tank, brand new. I conditioned the water and have put
>two fresh water goldfish in. They are starting to get small white spots :(
>
>Is this ich? I am a total newbie but animal lover and I want to treat
>asap. I've done a lot of research on the web and the amount of
>conflicting ways of dealing not dealing with this problem is incredible.
> I'm not even sure if it's ich, they seem fine, they are very active.
>They eat when fed. What would you fine people think. I'm using a juwel
>rekord 60 tank, the filteration is good. I only have them a week. I've
>changed the white filter today. I will change the others according to
>the schedule. The water is clear and the temp is about 76f
>
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Yours in hope,
>BC



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[BC]

wrote:
> http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/care/care1.htm#essentials
> 14 gallons is not enough for 2 fish.
> Check water parameters including ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH and temperature.
> check under "white spots" here
> http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/disease.htm
>
> Rule of thumb:
> 1. it is difficult to diagnose problem on the internet. you have included a few
> salient points, but there is much, much more information needed. Best is having a
> fish vet come to the house and diagnose (dream on). Next best is phoning someone who
> knows fish disease and will ask a zillion questions before offering an opinion. One
> such is the Goldfish Guru, Jo Ann Burke 251-649-4790. Next is filling out the sick
> fish form http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/sfques.html
>
> 2. LESS IS BETTER. DO NOT start dumping medications and treatments into the water
> without knowing what the problem is. Fish are routinely killed by "medications".
> Fresh water, that is, tub to tub method
> http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/treatment/trtmnt.htm#TUB_TO_TUB
> is most likely to bring a fish around. A little salt in the water is better than
> most meds unless you have a very good idea of what the problem is, or you been
> talking to Jo Ann.
>
> 3. New fish are very tricky because mostly you dont know what they dumped in the
> water at the fish store. Using chems at this point could fry their gills and kill
> em, so be careful. unless you have water from hell, clean treated, aerated water is
> the best medicine for GF.
>
> Ingrid


Hi Ingrid,

Would you believe the fish I wasn't worried about passed away. It was
just lying at the bottom of the tank when I got in this evening. I think
it was plain stress from being moved around. The other fish is just
hiding out in a decoration at the moment and I have to lift it to get
him out. When he comes out he looks perfectly normal and is feeding
fine. I really don't know what to do. I am gutted to lose a fish so soon...

Thanks for your help

BC.


>
>
> BC > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 54 Litre tank, brand new. I conditioned the water and have put
>> two fresh water goldfish in. They are starting to get small white spots :(
>>
>> Is this ich? I am a total newbie but animal lover and I want to treat
>> asap. I've done a lot of research on the web and the amount of
>> conflicting ways of dealing not dealing with this problem is incredible.
>> I'm not even sure if it's ich, they seem fine, they are very active.
>> They eat when fed. What would you fine people think. I'm using a juwel
>> rekord 60 tank, the filteration is good. I only have them a week. I've
>> changed the white filter today. I will change the others according to
>> the schedule. The water is clear and the temp is about 76f
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Yours in hope,
>> BC
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website.
> I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan