Goldfish paradox

[M&K]

Don't overfeed your goldfish! Overfeeding goldfish is the leading cause of
death among goldfish! Bad! Bad! Bad!

Okay, so I give them just the amount they can eat within 3 to 5 minutes. But
they eat all the time! The bugs that are in my pond and the water lettuce
made the little pond a buffet table. But the fish are happy!

I don't understand. Why is my feeding them potentially lethal, but not them
grazing all day and night?

m

[~ janj]

>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:57:15 GMT, "M&K" > wrote:

>Don't overfeed your goldfish! Overfeeding goldfish is the leading cause of
>death among goldfish! Bad! Bad! Bad!
>
>Okay, so I give them just the amount they can eat within 3 to 5 minutes. But
>they eat all the time! The bugs that are in my pond and the water lettuce
>made the little pond a buffet table. But the fish are happy!
>
>I don't understand. Why is my feeding them potentially lethal, but not them
>grazing all day and night?
>
>m

Man made products have more calories and take less work to eat? Kind of
like us buying/eating white bread, instead of going out and grinding the
wheat and putting together a whole grain bread before eating. ~ jan
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[Köi-Lö]

"M&K" > wrote in message
...
> Don't overfeed your goldfish! Overfeeding goldfish is the leading cause of
> death among goldfish! Bad! Bad! Bad!
>
> Okay, so I give them just the amount they can eat within 3 to 5 minutes.
> But
> they eat all the time! The bugs that are in my pond and the water lettuce
> made the little pond a buffet table. But the fish are happy!
>
> I don't understand. Why is my feeding them potentially lethal, but not
> them
> grazing all day and night?
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It's not lethal to my goldfish. They're fed twice a day. They're breeding
like rabbits again this year.
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3-5 minutes is too much. one mouthful is more than enough.
the problem is GF and koi have two nutritional requirements, protein and fat. and
the stuff that is in the water is digestible while "land based" stuff is not or not
nearly as digestible. in China where they raise lots of fancy GF they power feed
them grubs and worms found in the water that they raise, like blood worms. the GF
still have to work to find the food but they eat itty bitty amounts all day long.
the other problem with too much food is too much at once and they got no stomach so
it moves along their GI tract without being properly digested and absorbed.
usually it is only fancy GF that get floaty from the wrong type or amount of
commercial "fish" food. Ingrid

"M&K" > wrote:

>Don't overfeed your goldfish! Overfeeding goldfish is the leading cause of
>death among goldfish! Bad! Bad! Bad!
>
>Okay, so I give them just the amount they can eat within 3 to 5 minutes. But
>they eat all the time! The bugs that are in my pond and the water lettuce
>made the little pond a buffet table. But the fish are happy!
>
>I don't understand. Why is my feeding them potentially lethal, but not them
>grazing all day and night?
>
>m
>



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[AlecTPR]

Very interesting read as I recently thought about putting a few more
fish in my small(ish) pond (1000 litres) but after advice from my local
fish shop, they told me it's not the best idea. My nitrates were up and
asked how many times I fed the fish.

At the time I did this 3 times a day (although small amounts) and they
suggested making it once a day. I've done this but have to admit that
I've been away on an emergency holiday for 3 days and nobody has fed
them. I guessed that there is enough stuff in the pond to keep them
going for a couple of days?

cheers




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admittedly, the water is cold, but most northerners have goldfish that arent fed for
6 months or so. it is much better to not feed fish when the owner is on vacation
than having somebody come in to feed them. Ingrid

AlecTPR > wrote:

>
>Very interesting read as I recently thought about putting a few more
>fish in my small(ish) pond (1000 litres) but after advice from my local
>fish shop, they told me it's not the best idea. My nitrates were up and
>asked how many times I fed the fish.
>
>At the time I did this 3 times a day (although small amounts) and they
>suggested making it once a day. I've done this but have to admit that
>I've been away on an emergency holiday for 3 days and nobody has fed
>them. I guessed that there is enough stuff in the pond to keep them
>going for a couple of days?
>
>cheers



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[Derek Broughton]

wrote:

> admittedly, the water is cold, but most northerners have goldfish that
> arent fed for
> 6 months or so. it is much better to not feed fish when the owner is on
> vacation
> than having somebody come in to feed them. Ingrid
>
Amen! Most people who _know_ their fish will overfeed them - imagine what
will happen if you get someone who doesn't have a clue.

I've never met a fish that couldn't handle a long weekend without
feeding :-)
--
derek