fish43035
September 4th 06, 04:36 AM
Hi,
Here is a little background on me before my question. I have 4 fish tanks 3 fresh water and 1 salt water. I have had them all set up for at least a year and more for the freshwater tanks. I make sure their is NO cross contamination by not using the same net from one tank to another and such.
My PH is 6.5 (a little low for Goldfish but they are all doing OK but Pops), my nitrates read 0, nitrates read 0, on the stick kit I use and Amonia don't register in the other test kit I use. I do 2 weekly water changes and consider my fish my friends (pals). Yes I'm sick! I love them to death.
About 4 days ago my Chocolate Oranda Pops looked like he had a white film over his whole body and was refusing to swim. I did a 50% water change and pulled everything (decorations) out of the tank but the gravel and a few plants for him to hid around and munch on if he could. The decorations have been in the tank for over 8 months. I use a gravel vaccum every-time I change the water. NOTE: Pops is in a 10 gallon tank and is about 4 inches long nose to tail tip. Pops is also really fat from eating on the plants in his tank.
I do put live plants in the tank for him to eat and at one time found I was poisoning the fish with the metal weights that was on the plant (to hold it down). I have not had any metal in this tank for almost 6 months.
Pops has been slowly changing color to orange just as my Black Moor in my 20 gallon tank did and I just assumed it was normal as the fish gets older it changes color. But the white or grey film was a major setback for me. In the tank with Pops is 1 sucker fish and some type of snails that were on a plant when I bought it about a year ago . They (snails) constantly spawn and I had noticed one of the other fish in another tank eating the babies. So I don't know if he (Pops) ate one of the larger snails and can't swim or if it had to do with the grey/white film that had covered his body. Of coarse I assume it was the mucus but you never know.
I have been feeding Pops crushed peas and blood worms via a turkey baster that was bought for him but haven't seen him crap (forgive me). It's been 3 days now and I worry about him dying.
I had to remove the sucker fish since he started to eat Pops's tips of his fins. The sucker fish is in with another fish for now and he is doing just fine and has shown no signs of any illness.
The white haze over the body is gone other than on the eyes which is still a little foggy looking. His fins are damaged from the sucker fish but not to the point of not being able to swim.
I have another fish that has swim bladder issues (bought him that way) and Pops is not showing any signs of that other than just sitting still all day in the same spot. He refuses to move unless touched and then only moves an inch or so.
I have treated with coopersafe but not sure if that will help him or hurt him since the mucus looking grey/white film is gone everywhere but on his eyes. He is able to see as I notice his eyes follow my finger on the glass sometimes. Also when I say peas or bloodworms he perks up (dorsal fin goes up) for a second then goes down. Yes they know food comes after saying peas or blood worms.
I guess my question is what do you think I should do? The only other time I have seen a fish do this exact same thing was when they ate a food pellet that had swollen up in their stomach and died from the blockage. But then again that fish that died had black bruising on it's stomach and sides and Pops does not show any of these signs.
Any help is appreciated.
James
Here is a little background on me before my question. I have 4 fish tanks 3 fresh water and 1 salt water. I have had them all set up for at least a year and more for the freshwater tanks. I make sure their is NO cross contamination by not using the same net from one tank to another and such.
My PH is 6.5 (a little low for Goldfish but they are all doing OK but Pops), my nitrates read 0, nitrates read 0, on the stick kit I use and Amonia don't register in the other test kit I use. I do 2 weekly water changes and consider my fish my friends (pals). Yes I'm sick! I love them to death.
About 4 days ago my Chocolate Oranda Pops looked like he had a white film over his whole body and was refusing to swim. I did a 50% water change and pulled everything (decorations) out of the tank but the gravel and a few plants for him to hid around and munch on if he could. The decorations have been in the tank for over 8 months. I use a gravel vaccum every-time I change the water. NOTE: Pops is in a 10 gallon tank and is about 4 inches long nose to tail tip. Pops is also really fat from eating on the plants in his tank.
I do put live plants in the tank for him to eat and at one time found I was poisoning the fish with the metal weights that was on the plant (to hold it down). I have not had any metal in this tank for almost 6 months.
Pops has been slowly changing color to orange just as my Black Moor in my 20 gallon tank did and I just assumed it was normal as the fish gets older it changes color. But the white or grey film was a major setback for me. In the tank with Pops is 1 sucker fish and some type of snails that were on a plant when I bought it about a year ago . They (snails) constantly spawn and I had noticed one of the other fish in another tank eating the babies. So I don't know if he (Pops) ate one of the larger snails and can't swim or if it had to do with the grey/white film that had covered his body. Of coarse I assume it was the mucus but you never know.
I have been feeding Pops crushed peas and blood worms via a turkey baster that was bought for him but haven't seen him crap (forgive me). It's been 3 days now and I worry about him dying.
I had to remove the sucker fish since he started to eat Pops's tips of his fins. The sucker fish is in with another fish for now and he is doing just fine and has shown no signs of any illness.
The white haze over the body is gone other than on the eyes which is still a little foggy looking. His fins are damaged from the sucker fish but not to the point of not being able to swim.
I have another fish that has swim bladder issues (bought him that way) and Pops is not showing any signs of that other than just sitting still all day in the same spot. He refuses to move unless touched and then only moves an inch or so.
I have treated with coopersafe but not sure if that will help him or hurt him since the mucus looking grey/white film is gone everywhere but on his eyes. He is able to see as I notice his eyes follow my finger on the glass sometimes. Also when I say peas or bloodworms he perks up (dorsal fin goes up) for a second then goes down. Yes they know food comes after saying peas or blood worms.
I guess my question is what do you think I should do? The only other time I have seen a fish do this exact same thing was when they ate a food pellet that had swollen up in their stomach and died from the blockage. But then again that fish that died had black bruising on it's stomach and sides and Pops does not show any of these signs.
Any help is appreciated.
James