HEY NETMAX

[Happy'Cam'per]

Just a quick congratulatory note on your superb craftsmanwhatsits on your
new website. Nice one :)
Will it be Donald's responsibility to keep the links page in tact? :)
Its nice to know what you finally look like!
Well done :)
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**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

[NetMax]

"Happy'Cam'per" > wrote in message
...
> Just a quick congratulatory note on your superb craftsmanwhatsits on
your
> new website. Nice one :)
> Will it be Donald's responsibility to keep the links page in tact? :)
> Its nice to know what you finally look like!
> Well done :)
> --
> **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

*long bow* :o) My site is at your humble service. Comments,
corrections, or suggestions for new material can come right here to the
ng for critique. I'm already overflowing with new ideas. Like Jack, I
thought, who needs another website, so I've tried to keep it a bit
different, but there are only so many ways that you can describe cycling
a tank. I've never seen the topic of algae really covered well. and who
else but a fish-geek like me, could get excited about writing an article
on algae ;~), so that's on the list.

I haven't heard from Donald lately, and I hope he has only been too busy
for us, and all is well. He hosted the links for a while, but I'll
slowly be updating my own page now.
--
http://www.netmax.tk/

[PurityFailed]

> I've never seen the topic of algae really covered well. and who
>else but a fish-geek like me, could get excited about writing an article
>on algae ;~), so that's on the list.
>

>From: "NetMax"

Ooooooh. I look forward to that. I'm partial to hair and beard algae. Maybe
they're a pest to some, but I wish my tank would start growing some so I can
have a lawn in there! :D

Jessica
-Yet another baffled victim of a fish that decided to go MIA.

[RedForeman ©®]

Hey NetMax, Can I share a recent algae experience with ya?? You mentioned
you wanted a lawn of algae... and I've recently done such a task but I'm not
sure how..

ina a 65g, with 1 sponge filter and a HOB filter.... I've created the best
1" long, hair algae along the back of this tank, but pure luck, it's pretty,
not over grown, and I've never messed with it...

I noticed last night, it's NOT growing near fast moving water.. it's NOT
growing because of the light, it's got a 24" strip light, weak, old, the
tank is 36", so imagine what a 24" bulb is doing....

But the back of the tank, looks great with a thin layer of green that waves
as the whale passes....

Is there a 'way' to safely grow algae 'where you want it?'


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is that better??

[NetMax]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Hey NetMax, Can I share a recent algae experience with ya?? You
mentioned
> you wanted a lawn of algae... and I've recently done such a task but
I'm not
> sure how..

I don't think I said that I _wanted_ a lawn ;~) I just don't get too
freaked out by the stuff.

> ina a 65g, with 1 sponge filter and a HOB filter.... I've created the
best
> 1" long, hair algae along the back of this tank, but pure luck, it's
pretty,
> not over grown, and I've never messed with it...
>
> I noticed last night, it's NOT growing near fast moving water.. it's
NOT
> growing because of the light, it's got a 24" strip light, weak, old,
the
> tank is 36", so imagine what a 24" bulb is doing....

Yep, pointing your outflow at your front glass is supposed to prevent
algae from growing there, due to the turbulence. Of course, this is not
true. All it does is prevent the current algae creeping up the glass
from growing there, because they might not like the extra turbulence, and
then another algae moves in which prefers a bit more water action. Ever
see algae strings attached to rocks in fast flowing streams? There is
more types of algae than you can shake a stick at, and which one grows
(and where it grows) is a combination of luck, what spores you have in
your water, the nutrient mix and the light conditions (colour, intensity
and duration). What combination promotes which algae is not AFAIK a
documented study, except where the projects have been to eliminate the
algae (usually algae blooms).

> But the back of the tank, looks great with a thin layer of green that
waves
> as the whale passes....

It a different look eh? A little like managing a lawn, but much more
dynamic. Algae is quite fragile (rapid opportunistic grown, but still
fragile).

> Is there a 'way' to safely grow algae 'where you want it?'

Same way plants are grown, by taking one of the growth factors and
increasing it, ideally with something you can contain, ie: light. Algae
scrubbers are highly lit, but some attention needs to be given to the
colours (frequencies) being used. As hard as it can be to get rid of
algae sometimes, it is sometimes harder (imo) to promote only a certain
type of algae in a certain place. If you pick up any pointers, let me
know.
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> --
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> streetfighter!!! ==========================
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> 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
> '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
> ==========================
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>
>
> is that better??
>
>

[Graham Broadbridge]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Happy'Cam'per" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just a quick congratulatory note on your superb craftsmanwhatsits on
> your
> > new website. Nice one :)
> > Will it be Donald's responsibility to keep the links page in tact? :)
> > Its nice to know what you finally look like!
> > Well done :)
> > --
> > **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
>
> *long bow* :o) My site is at your humble service. Comments,
> corrections, or suggestions for new material can come right here to the

Hi Netmax, Nice website. I didn't see a link to thekrib.com, you should
probably ask permission to link as that site also has a lot of archival
material that would save you a lot of typing :-)


Regards
Graham.

[Graham Broadbridge]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Hey NetMax, Can I share a recent algae experience with ya?? You mentioned
> you wanted a lawn of algae... and I've recently done such a task but I'm
not
> sure how..
>
> ina a 65g, with 1 sponge filter and a HOB filter.... I've created the best
> 1" long, hair algae along the back of this tank, but pure luck, it's
pretty,
> not over grown, and I've never messed with it...
>
> I noticed last night, it's NOT growing near fast moving water.. it's NOT
> growing because of the light, it's got a 24" strip light, weak, old, the
> tank is 36", so imagine what a 24" bulb is doing....
>
> But the back of the tank, looks great with a thin layer of green that
waves
> as the whale passes....
>
> Is there a 'way' to safely grow algae 'where you want it?'

LOL :-) I spend thousands of bucks on lighting and CO2/PMDD and diatom
filtration to rid myself of this pest and you want to grow it?

Just goes to show how varied this hobby of ours can be.

Regards
Graham.

[NetMax]

"Graham Broadbridge" > wrote in message
...
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > "Happy'Cam'per" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Just a quick congratulatory note on your superb craftsmanwhatsits
on
> > your
> > > new website. Nice one :)
> > > Will it be Donald's responsibility to keep the links page in tact?
:)
> > > Its nice to know what you finally look like!
> > > Well done :)
> > > --
> > > **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> >
> > *long bow* :o) My site is at your humble service. Comments,
> > corrections, or suggestions for new material can come right here to
the
>
> Hi Netmax, Nice website. I didn't see a link to thekrib.com, you
should
> probably ask permission to link as that site also has a lot of archival
> material that would save you a lot of typing :-)
>
>
> Regards
> Graham.


Thanks Graham. In the links page:
http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml I list thekrib or mirrors
about 20 times in different categories. Elsewhere in my site, I
occasionally post a link too, but I haven't asked anyone for permission
to link to their sites. I'm not sure what circumstances would warrant
permission. If someone's site is on the net for the purpose of
disseminating information, then I'm making the presumption that I'm only
helping their cause by providing more traffic to them.

If I had a commercial angle and was using their info to help sales of a
product, then I'd certainly ask permission, but otherwise, I'd be more
likely to ask them to list my site :o). I imagine the Links page will be
close to 2000 URLs when I'm done (only about 375 now), so getting
permissions would be quite a chore. If anyone can advise me on this, I'd
appreciate it. I'm just a noob ;~)
--
http://www.netmax.tk/

[NetMax]

"PurityFailed" > wrote in message
...
> > I've never seen the topic of algae really covered well. and who
> >else but a fish-geek like me, could get excited about writing an
article
> >on algae ;~), so that's on the list.
> >
>
> >From: "NetMax"
>
> Ooooooh. I look forward to that. I'm partial to hair and beard algae.
Maybe
> they're a pest to some, but I wish my tank would start growing some so
I can
> have a lawn in there! :D

http://www.2cah.com/netmax/basics/algae/algae.shtml , all finished, just
banged it out from memory :o) Hopefully my memory is not failing me, but
I kept it fairly basic. Probably more useful to beginners than to anyone
who frequents the ng.

It's not hard to import algae spores. It's having the conditions which
keep them going. A nice green lawn of algae can look nice. Beard algae,
usually described as green, I usually see as grey stringy stuff on plant
leaves. Not very pretty, that one, but that's just my opinion.
--
http://www.netmax.tk/


> Jessica
> -Yet another baffled victim of a fish that decided to go MIA.

[nuchumYussel]

Netmax, that article was great! As is your entire website!

Nuchum Yussel

[The Outcaste]

On Sat, 1 May 2004 16:52:59 -0400, "NetMax"
>http://www.2cah.com/netmax/basics/algae/algae.shtml , all finished, just
>banged it out from memory :o) Hopefully my memory is not failing me, but
>I kept it fairly basic. Probably more useful to beginners than to anyone
>who frequents the ng.
>
>It's not hard to import algae spores. It's having the conditions which
>keep them going. A nice green lawn of algae can look nice. Beard algae,
>usually described as green, I usually see as grey stringy stuff on plant
>leaves. Not very pretty, that one, but that's just my opinion.

Great article. Found one typo in the 1st paragraph, the line that
reads :"...but are actually types of bacterial,..." -- I think that
should read "bacteria"

Jerry
--
Remember when grass was mowed, Coke was a cold drink, and Pot was something you cooked in? Hamilton Farms Billboard, Chehalis, WA

[NetMax]

"The Outcaste" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 1 May 2004 16:52:59 -0400, "NetMax"
> >http://www.2cah.com/netmax/basics/algae/algae.shtml , all finished,
just
> >banged it out from memory :o) Hopefully my memory is not failing me,
but
> >I kept it fairly basic. Probably more useful to beginners than to
anyone
> >who frequents the ng.
> >
> >It's not hard to import algae spores. It's having the conditions
which
> >keep them going. A nice green lawn of algae can look nice. Beard
algae,
> >usually described as green, I usually see as grey stringy stuff on
plant
> >leaves. Not very pretty, that one, but that's just my opinion.
>
> Great article. Found one typo in the 1st paragraph, the line that
> reads :"...but are actually types of bacterial,..." -- I think that
> should read "bacteria"
>
> Jerry


Thanks Jerry, I appreciate getting these typos pointed out. They detract
from the reading pleasure, so I fix them as fast as I hear about them.

Thanks as well to Nuchum Yussel for their kind remarks. I don't usually
reply to just say 'thanks' or 'your welcome' as it makes for a lot of
superfluous posts, but I appreciate the comments and I'm glad you enjoyed
the material. Next page in the works is for a delay-off timer, to turn
off heaters & filters for a set amount of time. This is for water
changes and other maintenance, to keep from cracking heaters, and so you
don't have to worry about remembering to turn on your equipment, when you
are done.
--
http://www.netmax.tk/

[Happy'Cam'per]

As far what you're doing with the links, its fine, don't worry about it. You
would only be expected to ask permission if you were blatantly raping the
said website. All is well in the land of the virtual Netmax ;)
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Graham Broadbridge" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "NetMax" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > "Happy'Cam'per" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Just a quick congratulatory note on your superb craftsmanwhatsits
> on
> > > your
> > > > new website. Nice one :)
> > > > Will it be Donald's responsibility to keep the links page in tact?
> :)
> > > > Its nice to know what you finally look like!
> > > > Well done :)
> > > > --
> > > > **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
> > >
> > > *long bow* :o) My site is at your humble service. Comments,
> > > corrections, or suggestions for new material can come right here to
> the
> >
> > Hi Netmax, Nice website. I didn't see a link to thekrib.com, you
> should
> > probably ask permission to link as that site also has a lot of archival
> > material that would save you a lot of typing :-)
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Graham.
>
>
> Thanks Graham. In the links page:
> http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml I list thekrib or mirrors
> about 20 times in different categories. Elsewhere in my site, I
> occasionally post a link too, but I haven't asked anyone for permission
> to link to their sites. I'm not sure what circumstances would warrant
> permission. If someone's site is on the net for the purpose of
> disseminating information, then I'm making the presumption that I'm only
> helping their cause by providing more traffic to them.
>
> If I had a commercial angle and was using their info to help sales of a
> product, then I'd certainly ask permission, but otherwise, I'd be more
> likely to ask them to list my site :o). I imagine the Links page will be
> close to 2000 URLs when I'm done (only about 375 now), so getting
> permissions would be quite a chore. If anyone can advise me on this, I'd
> appreciate it. I'm just a noob ;~)
> --
> http://www.netmax.tk/
>
>

[Graham Broadbridge]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Graham Broadbridge" > wrote in message
> > Hi Netmax, Nice website. I didn't see a link to thekrib.com, you
> should
> > probably ask permission to link as that site also has a lot of archival
> > material that would save you a lot of typing :-)
>
> Thanks Graham. In the links page:
> http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml I list thekrib or mirrors
> about 20 times in different categories. Elsewhere in my site, I
> occasionally post a link too, but I haven't asked anyone for permission
> to link to their sites. I'm not sure what circumstances would warrant
> permission.

I'm way out of date with current netiquet, Netmax. It used to be almost
obligatory to request permission to link and usually you'd also get a link
back from the other site.

It's been a *long* time (maybe 8 years) since I linked to another site or
even did anything more than read other peoples sites, so like I said I'm
probably way out of date :-)


Graham.

[RedForeman ©®]

> LOL :-) I spend thousands of bucks on lighting and CO2/PMDD and
> diatom filtration to rid myself of this pest and you want to grow it?
>
> Just goes to show how varied this hobby of ours can be.

I can't say anything positive about algae as it is, but when it's situated
in a place that makes it actually look like it was meant to be there, then
it's not too bad..

but yeah, I know... it sounded crazy when I was typing it, only sounds
funnier now!!!!

--
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streetfighter!!! ==========================
2003 TRX450ES
1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
==========================
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is that better??

[NetMax]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > LOL :-) I spend thousands of bucks on lighting and CO2/PMDD and
> > diatom filtration to rid myself of this pest and you want to grow it?
> >
> > Just goes to show how varied this hobby of ours can be.
>
> I can't say anything positive about algae as it is, but when it's
situated
> in a place that makes it actually look like it was meant to be there,
then
> it's not too bad..
>
> but yeah, I know... it sounded crazy when I was typing it, only sounds
> funnier now!!!!
>
> --
> RedForeman ©®

It's not _that_ crazy. There are several ways of growing algae:

Stack pieces of slate against the end of the tank, on the glass. Then
shine a strong light from outside the tank directly on the glass (slate).
Do not leave enough room between the slate and the glass for the algae
eater to get at the algae. Periodically turn a piece of slate around,
exposing new algae growth for the fish to consume, and starting new
growth on the scraped side. Note that heavy rocks must be used inside
the aquarium to prevent the algae eaters from pushing the slate off of
the glass (trying to get at their meal before it was ready for them), or
use a piece of slate the size of the entire tank end.

Install a very porous tank divider, and repeat as above. This is much
easier functionally, as you don't need to worry about the fish knocking
the slate down, but the divider looks bad after a few weeks, months, with
algae on it that the fish cannot get at.

Install your algae 'screens' in your sump with high light. Move the
screens into the tank periodically. This assumes the algae you grow is
in demand by your fish, otherwise just leave it in your sump to filter
your water ;~)

This allows you to 'safely' grow algae, but will it be 'where you want
it?'

--
http://www.netmax.tk/

[NetMax]

"Happy'Cam'per" > wrote in message
...
>
> As far what you're doing with the links, its fine, don't worry about
it. You
> would only be expected to ask permission if you were blatantly raping
the
> said website. All is well in the land of the virtual Netmax ;)
> --
> **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

*whew* ':-|
thanks !
--
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[NetMax]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
> "The Outcaste" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 1 May 2004 16:52:59 -0400, "NetMax"
> > >http://www.2cah.com/netmax/basics/algae/algae.shtml , all finished,
<snip>
> Next page in the works is for a delay-off timer, to turn
> off heaters & filters for a set amount of time. This is for water
> changes and other maintenance, to keep from cracking heaters, and so
you
> don't have to worry about remembering to turn on your equipment, when
you
> are done.
> --

Delay-timer done
http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/timer/timer.shtml

and as long as I was there making pretty pictures, I wrote one for that
gravel auto-vac. and a different way to get your water changes done if
you use a canister filter:
http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/vac/vac.shtml

I should stop soon, eh? Or at least I should stop posting all these
links or I'll start annoying people ;~).
--
http://www.NetMax.tk/

[RedForeman ©®]

> Delay-timer done
> http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/timer/timer.shtml

Won't need that, but great idea for those who do... I know someone who
will...

> and as long as I was there making pretty pictures, I wrote one for
> that gravel auto-vac. and a different way to get your water changes
> done if you use a canister filter:
> http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/vac/vac.shtml

Going to find a way to implement that this week.... I hope...

> I should stop soon, eh? Or at least I should stop posting all these
> links or I'll start annoying people ;~).

as if....

--
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streetfighter!!! ==========================
2003 TRX450ES
1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
==========================
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is that better??

[RedForeman ©®]

>> RedForeman ©® wanted to grow algae.. he's lost his mind....
>
> It's not _that_ crazy. There are several ways of growing algae:
>
> Stack pieces of slate against the end of the tank, on the glass. Then
> shine a strong light from outside the tank directly on the glass
> (slate). Do not leave enough room between the slate and the glass for
> the algae eater to get at the algae. Periodically turn a piece of
> slate around, exposing new algae growth for the fish to consume, and
> starting new growth on the scraped side. Note that heavy rocks must
> be used inside the aquarium to prevent the algae eaters from pushing
> the slate off of the glass (trying to get at their meal before it was
> ready for them), or use a piece of slate the size of the entire tank
> end.
>
> Install a very porous tank divider, and repeat as above. This is much
> easier functionally, as you don't need to worry about the fish
> knocking the slate down, but the divider looks bad after a few weeks,
> months, with algae on it that the fish cannot get at.
>
> Install your algae 'screens' in your sump with high light. Move the
> screens into the tank periodically. This assumes the algae you grow
> is in demand by your fish, otherwise just leave it in your sump to
> filter your water ;~)
>
> This allows you to 'safely' grow algae, but will it be 'where you want
> it?'

You never cease to amaze us....

--
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streetfighter!!! ==========================
2003 TRX450ES
1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
==========================
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is that better??

[NetMax]

"Graham Broadbridge" > wrote in message
u...
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > "Graham Broadbridge" > wrote in message
> > > Hi Netmax, Nice website. I didn't see a link to thekrib.com, you
> > should
> > > probably ask permission to link as that site also has a lot of
archival
> > > material that would save you a lot of typing :-)
> >
> > Thanks Graham. In the links page:
> > http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml I list thekrib or
mirrors
> > about 20 times in different categories. Elsewhere in my site, I
> > occasionally post a link too, but I haven't asked anyone for
permission
> > to link to their sites. I'm not sure what circumstances would
warrant
> > permission.
>
> I'm way out of date with current netiquet, Netmax. It used to be
almost
> obligatory to request permission to link and usually you'd also get a
link
> back from the other site.
>
> It's been a *long* time (maybe 8 years) since I linked to another site
or
> even did anything more than read other peoples sites, so like I said
I'm
> probably way out of date :-)
>
>
> Graham.

No problemo Graham, thanks anyways. I'd rather be warned about a problem
which wasn't applicable, than not warned about one that was.

--
http://www.NetMax.tk/

[The Outcaste]

On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:53:29 -0400, "NetMax"
> bubbled forth the following:

>Delay-timer done
>http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/timer/timer.shtml
>
>and as long as I was there making pretty pictures, I wrote one for that
>gravel auto-vac. and a different way to get your water changes done if
>you use a canister filter:
>http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/vac/vac.shtml
>
>I should stop soon, eh? Or at least I should stop posting all these
>links or I'll start annoying people ;~).

DON"T STOP! Keep up the great additions!. As far as posting all the
links, add a What's New button to the home page, and list the new
links there for a month or so.

Thanks for the Vac page. I'm in the planning stages of building a 45
and 70 stank/stand combo that will be built into the wall in my
basement. This is exactly what I've been looking for to simplify water
changes. I've been stumped trying to match the (approx) 18mm OD
Fluval intake tube/Flexible hose to the 7/8" OD PVC plumbing here in
the states, and hadn't even thought of using clear vinyl tubing, which
will stretch enough to make the transition.

Thanks also for the Timer page. I would, however, suggest using a
larger image (or at least larger type) for Fig. 3, as I found the key
hard to read. Admittedly, my eyes aren't what they used to be, and I
run a higher resolution than I should (1280X1024), but with all the
white space, a 50% larger image should not be too much bigger.

Just this weekend, I replaced both of my timers. I found an outdoor
timer by Intermatic (http://www.intermatic.com/?action=subcat&sid=117
), model HR35R 10 A (1200W), for US$9.97 at both Home Depot and
Lowe's. This unit has a hinged cover making it raintight (read
splashtight) and a 12" grounded cord so you can easily plug 2 of them
into the same outlet, or several into a power strip. This would also
allow you to gang all four outlets in your setup into one box (or into
2 doubles), instead of four boxes, which could save costs.

The timer has a grounded outlet which allows you to connect a standard
powerstrip to run several lights off of one timer without needing cube
taps/adapters, and they are totally silent IME (considering my old
one's were 30 years old, I guess I can't complain about a little
noise).

I believe Lowe's also had the HR31R model, which handles 15 A, 1800W,
but IIRC, it was $19.97, not worth the extra cost; though if you need
more than 1200W of lights, the cost of a timer will not be important
©¿®

Jerry

--
Between two evils, I always like to take the one I’ve never tried before. - Mae West

[The Outcaste]

On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:25:37 GMT, The Outcaste
> bubbled forth the following:

>DON"T STOP! Keep up the great additions!. As far as posting all the
>links, add a What's New button to the home page, and list the new
>links there for a month or so.

Do keep posting the links as well. I didn't mean to imply you should
stop, just add a what's new section in addition to posting.

Jerry

[NetMax]

"The Outcaste" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:53:29 -0400, "NetMax"
> > bubbled forth the following:
<snip>
> Thanks also for the Timer page. I would, however, suggest using a
> larger image (or at least larger type) for Fig. 3, as I found the key
> hard to read. Admittedly, my eyes aren't what they used to be, and I
> run a higher resolution than I should (1280X1024), but with all the
> white space, a 50% larger image should not be too much bigger.

Jerry, done
http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/timer/Timer3.jpg

Good ideas with the external timers.
NetMax

> Just this weekend, I replaced both of my timers. I found an outdoor
<snip>
> ©¿®
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> Between two evils, I always like to take the one I've never tried
before. - Mae West

[The Outcaste]

On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:48:27 -0400, "NetMax"
> bubbled forth the following:

>Jerry, done
>http://www.2cah.com/netmax/diy_projects/timer/Timer3.jpg

Crystal Clear now, you must have fired up the diatom image clarifier
;-)

Jerry

[Phil]

You could always empty your waterchange water into a rubbermaid style
container with a clear(ish) lid and leave it in your yard in the sun for a
few days with the rocks you wanna cover inside it.

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > LOL :-) I spend thousands of bucks on lighting and CO2/PMDD and
> > diatom filtration to rid myself of this pest and you want to grow it?
> >
> > Just goes to show how varied this hobby of ours can be.
>
> I can't say anything positive about algae as it is, but when it's situated
> in a place that makes it actually look like it was meant to be there, then
> it's not too bad..
>
> but yeah, I know... it sounded crazy when I was typing it, only sounds
> funnier now!!!!
>
> --
> RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
> streetfighter!!! ==========================
> 2003 TRX450ES
> 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
> '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
> ==========================
> ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
>
>
> is that better??
>
>

[NetMax]

I would have to try it, but I suspect those conditions would trigger an
algae bloom which wouldn't be useful unless you needed infusoria for fry
;~)
--
www.NetMax.tk
"Phil" > wrote in message
...
> You could always empty your waterchange water into a rubbermaid style
> container with a clear(ish) lid and leave it in your yard in the sun
for a
> few days with the rocks you wanna cover inside it.
<snip>

[RedForeman ©®]

|| I would have to try it, but I suspect those conditions would trigger
|| an algae bloom which wouldn't be useful unless you needed infusoria
|| for fry ;~)
|| --
|| www.NetMax.tk
|| "Phil" > wrote in message
|| ...
||| You could always empty your waterchange water into a rubbermaid
||| style container with a clear(ish) lid and leave it in your yard in
||| the sun for a few days with the rocks you wanna cover inside it.
|| <snip>

But he does have a point, but the wrong application... NetMax, I'll take a
few pics tonite, show you what I mean.. Hopefully, it won't come out as ugly
as it seems to some people... Weirdly enough, i kinda like it... then
again, I'm used to being laughed at... hahaha.. :-(

--
RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
streetfighter!!! ==========================
2003 TRX450ES
1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
==========================
ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø


is that better??