Weird case of dropsy?

[The Evil Hand]

I posted about a female Siamese fighting fish that appeared to have dropsy a
few weeks ago. I treated her twice with maracyn. after the swelling didn't
start to go down, but she is still as swollen as she was then, but has not
got to the point were her scales have started to protrude? Does anyone know
what else that it could be. She seems buoyant and the swollen cavity appears
to be filled by either air, of a clear liquid, when she swims in front of
the lights?

cheers
Evil

[Kedar]

Try feeding green peas (shell removed) dipped in castor oil for a few
minutes. Feed in small quantity ( the idea is castor oil should be
consumed by the fish) Stop feeding everthing else & obseve for a week.
Let the group know how it goes further.

Thanks
Kedar




The Evil Hand wrote:
> I posted about a female Siamese fighting fish that appeared to have dropsy a
> few weeks ago. I treated her twice with maracyn. after the swelling didn't
> start to go down, but she is still as swollen as she was then, but has not
> got to the point were her scales have started to protrude? Does anyone know
> what else that it could be. She seems buoyant and the swollen cavity appears
> to be filled by either air, of a clear liquid, when she swims in front of
> the lights?
>
> cheers
> Evil

[The Evil Hand]

The air or fluid isn't trapped in her digestive system. It is actually
inside her body.

"Kedar" > wrote in message
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> Try feeding green peas (shell removed) dipped in castor oil for a few
> minutes. Feed in small quantity ( the idea is castor oil should be
> consumed by the fish) Stop feeding everthing else & obseve for a week.
> Let the group know how it goes further.
>
> Thanks
> Kedar
>
>
>
>
> The Evil Hand wrote:
>> I posted about a female Siamese fighting fish that appeared to have
>> dropsy a
>> few weeks ago. I treated her twice with maracyn. after the swelling
>> didn't
>> start to go down, but she is still as swollen as she was then, but has
>> not
>> got to the point were her scales have started to protrude? Does anyone
>> know
>> what else that it could be. She seems buoyant and the swollen cavity
>> appears
>> to be filled by either air, of a clear liquid, when she swims in front of
>> the lights?
>>
>> cheers
>> Evil
>

[carlrs]

The Evil Hand wrote:
> I posted about a female Siamese fighting fish that appeared to have dropsy a
> few weeks ago. I treated her twice with maracyn. after the swelling didn't
> start to go down, but she is still as swollen as she was then, but has not
> got to the point were her scales have started to protrude? Does anyone know
> what else that it could be. She seems buoyant and the swollen cavity appears
> to be filled by either air, of a clear liquid, when she swims in front of
> the lights?
>
> cheers
> Evil

Have you tried Kanacyn? Maracyn (Erythromycin) is usually not effective
for most causes of Dropsy. And dropsy is generally a symptom of
something else, sometimes digestive, often kidney related. A proper
diet makes a large difference here. Do not feed your fish meat based
proteins, I recommend aquatic based proteins such as white fish meal,
shrimp or even the proteins found in spirulina algae.
What do you feed? As a basic diet I recommend Sanyu or Hikari Betta
Gold.
Poor quality proteins (or better; unusable amino acids for fish) can
lead to digestive problems or Renal failure, which CAN lead to the
symptoms of Dropsy.
All proteins are made up of amino acids, some are usable (by fish), and
some are not.
Those that are not are disposed of by kidneys in the fish. This can
lead to renal failure or infection.
Also sometimes (not often though) the aeromonas bacteria (that is often
present in healthy aquariums) can cause infections that will manifest
this way in poor water conditions.

Here is more info about aquarium medications:
http://aquarium-medictions.blogspot.com/

Carl

[swarvegorilla]

"carlrs" > wrote in message
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>
> The Evil Hand wrote:
>> I posted about a female Siamese fighting fish that appeared to have
>> dropsy a
>> few weeks ago. I treated her twice with maracyn. after the swelling
>> didn't
>> start to go down, but she is still as swollen as she was then, but has
>> not
>> got to the point were her scales have started to protrude? Does anyone
>> know
>> what else that it could be. She seems buoyant and the swollen cavity
>> appears
>> to be filled by either air, of a clear liquid, when she swims in front of
>> the lights?
>>
>> cheers
>> Evil
>
> Have you tried Kanacyn? Maracyn (Erythromycin) is usually not effective
> for most causes of Dropsy. And dropsy is generally a symptom of
> something else, sometimes digestive, often kidney related. A proper
> diet makes a large difference here. Do not feed your fish meat based
> proteins, I recommend aquatic based proteins such as white fish meal,
> shrimp or even the proteins found in spirulina algae.
> What do you feed? As a basic diet I recommend Sanyu or Hikari Betta
> Gold.
> Poor quality proteins (or better; unusable amino acids for fish) can
> lead to digestive problems or Renal failure, which CAN lead to the
> symptoms of Dropsy.
> All proteins are made up of amino acids, some are usable (by fish), and
> some are not.
> Those that are not are disposed of by kidneys in the fish. This can
> lead to renal failure or infection.
> Also sometimes (not often though) the aeromonas bacteria (that is often
> present in healthy aquariums) can cause infections that will manifest
> this way in poor water conditions.
>
> Here is more info about aquarium medications:
> http://aquarium-medictions.blogspot.com/
>
> Carl
>

Goddam Carl you iz born again hard mate!
good to see
Another thing it could and prob is.... da fish tb mongrel, or piscine tb
(mykobacterium marina? (sp?))
evil bug
flagyl (metrodonazole) can be used if early enuf and mixed in with food.
I would kill your fish and get another
**** as it sounds
in the end it is prob going to be for best
the more we buy the more they breed so thru death comes life
labrynth fish are very suseptable to this evil ass disease and some
estimates put infection at 25% of them in hobby
sorry
but in the end even with all the drugs at hand I will often just put out of
misery
time and a place for anitbiotics and heavy drugs
when the body cavity is full of liquid
organs have started to suffer necropsy
and tissue is riddled with nodules
is not the time
:) wasn't meant to be a scare campaign
just my version of rational