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Steve Giannoni
November 25th 06, 03:38 PM
For all the obvious advantages of a WON PRO*HEAT , Titanium tube type
heater, I've always had the concern of water breaching the seals and
allowing some very undesirable electrical conduction from either
electrical "leg" through to the water, or within the heater. I have
designed a circuit to check conduction from the heater to either leg
in rectified combination, charging a capacitance, over a timed
interval. I use a thoroughly cleaned stainless steel fork protruding
for about ¾ of the length into the water at the opposite end from the
WON PRO. I find that a 470 microfarad capacitor will gain
approximately ¼ volt for every 1,000 seconds in this special "full
wave" charging from either or both legs mode, which equates to about
0.119 microA.; a very small current indeed, which I attribute to
heater to water capacitance rather than an insulation breach. The WON
PRO has been in service for 6 years and has performed flawlessly.
PS - it's a 45 gallon fresh water aquarium where NaHCO3 (for acid
control) and other dissolved salts (in spite of regular partial water
changes) no doubt provide sufficient conduction for that small test
current.

Patrick Philippe
December 13th 06, 06:45 AM
no need to send me that
"Steve Giannoni" > a écrit dans le message news:
...
> For all the obvious advantages of a WON PRO*HEAT , Titanium tube type
> heater, I've always had the concern of water breaching the seals and
> allowing some very undesirable electrical conduction from either
> electrical "leg" through to the water, or within the heater. I have
> designed a circuit to check conduction from the heater to either leg
> in rectified combination, charging a capacitance, over a timed
> interval. I use a thoroughly cleaned stainless steel fork protruding
> for about ¾ of the length into the water at the opposite end from the
> WON PRO. I find that a 470 microfarad capacitor will gain
> approximately ¼ volt for every 1,000 seconds in this special "full
> wave" charging from either or both legs mode, which equates to about
> 0.119 microA.; a very small current indeed, which I attribute to
> heater to water capacitance rather than an insulation breach. The WON
> PRO has been in service for 6 years and has performed flawlessly.
> PS - it's a 45 gallon fresh water aquarium where NaHCO3 (for acid
> control) and other dissolved salts (in spite of regular partial water
> changes) no doubt provide sufficient conduction for that small test
> current.

giannoni
January 20th 07, 08:16 PM
Haven't got any idea what you got nor why; sorry in any case ...

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:45:35 +0100, "Patrick Philippe"
> wrote:

>no need to send me that
>"Steve Giannoni" > a écrit dans le message news:
...
>> For all the obvious advantages of a WON PRO*HEAT , Titanium tube type
>> heater, I've always had the concern of water breaching the seals and
>> allowing some very undesirable electrical conduction from either
>> electrical "leg" through to the water, or within the heater. I have
>> designed a circuit to check conduction from the heater to either leg
>> in rectified combination, charging a capacitance, over a timed
>> interval. I use a thoroughly cleaned stainless steel fork protruding
>> for about ¾ of the length into the water at the opposite end from the
>> WON PRO. I find that a 470 microfarad capacitor will gain
>> approximately ¼ volt for every 1,000 seconds in this special "full
>> wave" charging from either or both legs mode, which equates to about
>> 0.119 microA.; a very small current indeed, which I attribute to
>> heater to water capacitance rather than an insulation breach. The WON
>> PRO has been in service for 6 years and has performed flawlessly.
>> PS - it's a 45 gallon fresh water aquarium where NaHCO3 (for acid
>> control) and other dissolved salts (in spite of regular partial water
>> changes) no doubt provide sufficient conduction for that small test
>> current.
>