Blacl Molly Completely Vanished

[JeffinMS]

One of my Black Mollys some time ago had some problems, like her back was
broken and she was swimming sideways and all around. Someone mentioned a
teaspoon full of salt, which I added and it did no good. It actually had
appeared her back was broken some way. I went on vacation over thanksgiving
and when I came back, she was gone. I decided to look and removed all the
possible hiding plaes in the tank and looked and the fish is no where to be
found, totally vanished. Our LFS owner told me that my Pleco, which is
pretty big now, about 8 inches, would start eating my other fish. Is this a
possibility/probability? The Pleco seems totally docile and hasnt messed
with any of the tetras or the clowns.

[Köi-Lö]

"JeffinMS" > wrote in message
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> One of my Black Mollys some time ago had some problems, like her back was
> broken and she was swimming sideways and all around. Someone mentioned a
> teaspoon full of salt, which I added and it did no good. It actually had
> appeared her back was broken some way. I went on vacation over
> thanksgiving and when I came back, she was gone. I decided to look and
> removed all the possible hiding plaes in the tank and looked and the fish
> is no where to be found, totally vanished. Our LFS owner told me that my
> Pleco, which is pretty big now, about 8 inches, would start eating my
> other fish. Is this a possibility/probability? The Pleco seems totally
> docile and hasnt messed with any of the tetras or the clowns.
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I've seen them rasp on dead fish. Some people have problems with them
rasping the slime coat off live fish. This can cause infections and the
death of their tankmates. It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
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[JeffinMS]

"Köi-Lö" > wrote in message
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It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
> decomposed.
> --

Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?

[Köi-Lö]

"JeffinMS" > wrote in message
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>
> "Köi-Lö" > wrote in message
> ...
> It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
>> decomposed.
>> --
>
> Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?
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Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind I was
told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra partial water
change of perhaps 50%.
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[nut]

Köi-Lö wrote:
> "JeffinMS" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Köi-Lö" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
>>> decomposed.
>>> --
>>
>> Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?
> ============================
> Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind
> I was told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra
> partial water change of perhaps 50%.

Jeffin didn't mention the size of his tank, nor what filtration is in place,
but i think a 50% water change for a missing molly is a little drastic!

"Broken back" is not a disease and cannot be transmitted to other fish... a
rotting fish is no worse than any other rotting food... with sufficient
filtration all that should happen is a slight rise in nitrates.



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[Köi-Lö]

"nut" > wrote in message
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> Köi-Lö wrote:
>> "JeffinMS" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Köi-Lö" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
>>>> decomposed.
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?
>> ============================
>> Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind
>> I was told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra
>> partial water change of perhaps 50%.
>
> Jeffin didn't mention the size of his tank, nor what filtration is in
> place, but i think a 50% water change for a missing molly is a little
> drastic!

It was just a suggestion.

> "Broken back" is not a disease and cannot be transmitted to other fish...

But we can't know what else the fish suffered from or may have carried.

a
> rotting fish is no worse than any other rotting food... with sufficient
> filtration all that should happen is a slight rise in nitrates.

That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.

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[nut]

Köi-Lö wrote:


[missing/dead molly]

> That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.

You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small tank with
poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to lose a molly
suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow for this.



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[JeffinMS]

"nut" > wrote in message
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> Köi-Lö wrote:
>
>
> [missing/dead molly]
>
>> That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.
>
> You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small tank
> with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to lose a molly
> suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow for this.
>
>

Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a couple
of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a half now.

[nut]

JeffinMS wrote:
> "nut" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Köi-Lö wrote:
>>
>>
>> [missing/dead molly]
>>
>>> That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.
>>
>> You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small
>> tank with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to
>> lose a molly suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow
>> for this.
>
> Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a
> couple of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a
> half now.

Sounds ok to me... but what about filtration?

The thing with mollies is they like salt, and loaches hate it.






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[JeffinMS]

"nut" > wrote in message
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> JeffinMS wrote:
>> "nut" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> Köi-Lö wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> [missing/dead molly]
>>>
>>>> That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.
>>>
>>> You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small
>>> tank with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to
>>> lose a molly suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow
>>> for this.
>>
>> Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a
>> couple of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a
>> half now.
>
> Sounds ok to me... but what about filtration?
>
> The thing with mollies is they like salt, and loaches hate it.
>
>
>
>

I only used salt that one time to try to treat the Molly. The Molly;s seem
to do pretty good without the salt, as do the other fish. They are a year
old now (Plus however old they were when I got them). Filtration is a 40 GPM
AquaClear.

[nut]

JeffinMS wrote:

> I only used salt that one time to try to treat the Molly. The Molly;s
> seem to do pretty good without the salt, as do the other fish. They
> are a year old now (Plus however old they were when I got them).
> Filtration is a 40 GPM AquaClear.

After this amount of time the molly will be gone anyway so there's nothing
you can do except check water chemistry. If he had a name, maybe burn a
candle for him.



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