ZooPlankton

[Peter Pan]

I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says refrigerate
after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly how long
will it keep before going bad?

[Tristan]

I would really be surprise dit the stuff wa any good when yu bought i
initially or at least very long after it was packaged. About all it
ever did to me was help to start an algae bloom.

Why not feed frozen foods. There is always fine particles of food that
floats around, and it will benefit filter feeders and small fish etc
much better than bottle zoo plankton will.

Dt's feeds are fairly good but pretty high priced, but the typical
frozen is usually reasonable in price and is pretty well easy to find
most everwhere fish are sold.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:03:12 -0500, "Peter Pan" >
wrote:

<<>>I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
<<>>smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says refrigerate
<<>>after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly how long
<<>>will it keep before going bad?
<<>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Peter Pan]

I do feed them frozen brine ans mysis, but there is one small Yellow Goby
that doesnt like the mysis. Im trying to give him a well rounded diet (as
well as the others).
"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I would really be surprise dit the stuff wa any good when yu bought i
> initially or at least very long after it was packaged. About all it
> ever did to me was help to start an algae bloom.
>
> Why not feed frozen foods. There is always fine particles of food that
> floats around, and it will benefit filter feeders and small fish etc
> much better than bottle zoo plankton will.
>
> Dt's feeds are fairly good but pretty high priced, but the typical
> frozen is usually reasonable in price and is pretty well easy to find
> most everwhere fish are sold.
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:03:12 -0500, "Peter Pan" >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
> <<>>smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says
refrigerate
> <<>>after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly
how long
> <<>>will it keep before going bad?
> <<>>
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Susan]

I feed my inverts./corals PhytoPlan and ZoPlan from Two Little Fishes. It's
a powder that I mix with a little aquarium water and use a turkey baster to
feed. Once I open it I refrigerate it until its used up. Never had a
problem with it. This stuff is great as I have scallops I feed this to and
have kept them quite a while.

Susan :)
"Peter Pan" > wrote in message
. ..
>I do feed them frozen brine ans mysis, but there is one small Yellow Goby
> that doesnt like the mysis. Im trying to give him a well rounded diet (as
> well as the others).
> "Tristan" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> I would really be surprise dit the stuff wa any good when yu bought i
>> initially or at least very long after it was packaged. About all it
>> ever did to me was help to start an algae bloom.
>>
>> Why not feed frozen foods. There is always fine particles of food that
>> floats around, and it will benefit filter feeders and small fish etc
>> much better than bottle zoo plankton will.
>>
>> Dt's feeds are fairly good but pretty high priced, but the typical
>> frozen is usually reasonable in price and is pretty well easy to find
>> most everwhere fish are sold.
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:03:12 -0500, "Peter Pan" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> <<>>I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
>> <<>>smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says
> refrigerate
>> <<>>after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly
> how long
>> <<>>will it keep before going bad?
>> <<>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------
>> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
>
>

[TheRock]

$1.99 isn't that expensive
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=5011&N=2004+6125

If this is the stuff you are referring to, it is vacuum sealed.
I throw it after about 1 month....or when it smells funny.



"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I would really be surprise dit the stuff wa any good when yu bought i
> initially or at least very long after it was packaged. About all it
> ever did to me was help to start an algae bloom.
>
> Why not feed frozen foods. There is always fine particles of food that
> floats around, and it will benefit filter feeders and small fish etc
> much better than bottle zoo plankton will.
>
> Dt's feeds are fairly good but pretty high priced, but the typical
> frozen is usually reasonable in price and is pretty well easy to find
> most everwhere fish are sold.
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:03:12 -0500, "Peter Pan" >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
> <<>>smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says
> refrigerate
> <<>>after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly
> how long
> <<>>will it keep before going bad?
> <<>>
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Pszemol]

"TheRock" > wrote in message news:3bJih.5823$uq5.928@trndny04...
> $1.99 isn't that expensive
> http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=5011&N=2004+6125
>
> If this is the stuff you are referring to, it is vacuum sealed.
> I throw it after about 1 month....or when it smells funny.

I would not buy it - this product is freshwater daphnia.
Marine animals should eat marine, not freshwater plankton.

[TheRock]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "TheRock" > wrote in message
> news:3bJih.5823$uq5.928@trndny04...
>> $1.99 isn't that expensive
>> http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=5011&N=2004+6125
>>
>> If this is the stuff you are referring to, it is vacuum sealed.
>> I throw it after about 1 month....or when it smells funny.
>
> I would not buy it - this product is freshwater daphnia.
> Marine animals should eat marine, not freshwater plankton.

Good point and I didn't know that. I wonder what the difference is between
the freshwater and the sal****er brand ???

[Pszemol]

"TheRock" > wrote in message news:F5ajh.1327$kD4.1150@trndny06...
> Good point and I didn't know that. I wonder what the difference
> is between the freshwater and the sal****er brand ???

The only difference I can think of is that this daphnia
is in the jar or freshwater or sal****er, depending on
the type of the product - or, it might be no difference
at all - just marketing bs. I do not trust a company, which
tries to smuggle freshwater daphnia as sal****er zooplankton.

[Marco Schwarz]

Hi..

> I do not trust a company, which
> tries to smuggle freshwater daphnia as sal****er zooplankton.

Hmm.., Daphnia or Moina..?

Do they possibly sell Moina salina..?

cu
Marco

[Pszemol]

"Marco Schwarz" > wrote in message ups.com...
>> I do not trust a company, which
>> tries to smuggle freshwater daphnia as sal****er zooplankton.
>
> Hmm.., Daphnia or Moina..?
>
> Do they possibly sell Moina salina..?

To quote manufacturer:
"Zooplankton is primarily cultured Daphnia"
I am personally not happy feeding reef with freshwater animals.
But maybe there is nothing wrong with it...

[TheRock]

I wrote the wet web media crew:

Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
Your reply is below

Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
<It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed too
often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "Marco Schwarz" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>> I do not trust a company, which
>>> tries to smuggle freshwater daphnia as sal****er zooplankton.
>>
>> Hmm.., Daphnia or Moina..?
>>
>> Do they possibly sell Moina salina..?
>
> To quote manufacturer:
> "Zooplankton is primarily cultured Daphnia"
> I am personally not happy feeding reef with freshwater animals.
> But maybe there is nothing wrong with it...

[Pszemol]

"TheRock" > wrote in message news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
> I wrote the wet web media crew:
>
> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
> Your reply is below
>
> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed too
> often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>

Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?

[Tristan]

I hate to say it , but Wet web media have a host of folks renowned
for their work in the marine world. You can take their word for what
they say in all honesty and integrity.



On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:51:26 -0600, "Pszemol" >
wrote:

<<>>"TheRock" > wrote in message news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
<<>>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
<<>>>
<<>>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
<<>>> Your reply is below
<<>>>
<<>>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
<<>>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
<<>>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
<<>>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed too
<<>>> often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>
<<>>
<<>>Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
<<>>somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[TheRock]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "TheRock" > wrote in message
> news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
>>
>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
>> Your reply is below
>>
>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed
>> too often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>
>
> Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
> somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?

Psz this stuff can't possibly have any less nutritional value than brine
shrimp
or some of the other frozen treats we all use. I just like it as something
to rotate into
their diet. I use flakes, pellets, dehydrated, frozen and jar.

Come to think of it my yellow polyps close in on this stuff quick.

Ingenious: Water, Zooplankton, salt
Primarily cultured Daphnia spp. sterilized and vac packed in water.
Crude Protein: 2.2%
Crude fat:.03%
Crude fiber: 1%
Moisture 96.5%

I understand your comment about freshwater versus sal****er foods
however, Don't you think it is possible for foods outside of their natural
habitat
to be beneficial. I've seen posts about people feeding their fish lettuce
and broccoli.
AND what about all those garlic supplements ?

Usefulness is displayed by nice color, good health and size.
My fish display all of the above.

Do you know who Bob Fenner is ???
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/bobfbio.htm

Merry Christmas

[Wayne Sallee]

LOL that's funny. He basically said that your fish will
get diarrhea if you feed too much of it.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Pszemol wrote on 12/25/2006 11:51 AM:
> "TheRock" > wrote in message
> news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
>>
>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
>> Your reply is below
>>
>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed
>> too often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>
>
> Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
> somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?

[TheRock]

I was a bit confused about that one...ha !
It was kinda of a random thought.
Oh BTW your fish will **** there brains out.

Hey don't want them getting all blocked up !

"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
k.net...
> LOL that's funny. He basically said that your fish will get diarrhea if
> you feed too much of it.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Pszemol wrote on 12/25/2006 11:51 AM:
>> "TheRock" > wrote in message
>> news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
>>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
>>>
>>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
>>> Your reply is below
>>>
>>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
>>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
>>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
>>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed
>>> too often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>
>>
>> Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
>> somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?

[Add Homonym]

TheRock wrote:
> I was a bit confused about that one...ha !
> It was kinda of a random thought.
> Oh BTW your fish will **** there brains out.
>
> Hey don't want them getting all blocked up !


Little bit o' epsom salts work better for that, and helps keep the
magnesium up as well.

[Angel deVine]

Uh... you forgot RAMR......


"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>I shudder to think what bieng one of CArols socks would
> entail........since the sock is connected to that loon, there could
> not ne anything positive associated with it.
>
> Hey Carol.....BOOOOOOOOOO....you lunatic!
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!


Tristan wrote:
>
> Yep.......dollar for dollar.Filterdirect.com is the way togo.
> You can buy a Kent or coralife or any number of other "big name"
> brands sold by aquarium and fish shops, and one is not any better tan
> the other. You can get soaked dollar wise or get a perfectly capanble
> unit and sabe a lot of money. Checkout Ebay auciton site for a selled
> that goes by filterdirect. You can elect to bid on enbay or just use
> his toll free number and give him a call. His phone nuber is listed on
> his ebay store stuff. The fellas name is Oscar, andhe is locate din
> CAlifornia. He willsellyou a unit without haivng to go through Ebay
> for whatever his buy it now price is, which is about half of what most
> LFS charge for a similar unit.
>
> Somew folks say 100 gpd is not the way to go as its not going to give
> good water. I have two of them and both are 99% pure output accoding
> to my TDS meter. If yu prefer to go with a lower GPD rate, Oscar will
> install whatever membrane you desire for no additional charge.......
> IMHO , I give $122 for a RODI unit with reechargeable DI resin
> carts, and a total of 5 stages delivered to my door. Thats a good
> price. I gave 108 for a unit from Aqua Safe or somehting liek that,
> who is yet another seller on ebay and the unit has been nothng but
> trouble, and when yu consider whats involved with them, its hard to
> imagine they can be problematic. I have had trouble with auto shut
> off, cracking housings etc etc. It cost me $130 delivered and its been
> crap. I have since purchased yet another from Filterdirect and
> installed it in my barn for my fish room down there andits been
> trouble free as well. So my vopte is out to Oscar of Filterdirect for
> a good price and great service on a rodi unit. That is unless you like
> to plop down 200+ and not get anythng any better
> http://www.filterdirect.com
>
> So Kurt how close did that nasty weather ocme to yur place. Hear 5 or
> 6 houses wwre demolished near Jacksonville..........real bummer.
>
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:50:33 -0500, KurtG
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>
> <<>>I'm looking into an RO system, so I can give up buying gallon
jugs at
> <<>>walmart. Any recommendations?
> <<>>
> <<>>--Kurt
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



Tristan wrote:
>
> I hate to say it , but Wet web media have a host of folks renowned
> for their work in the marine world. You can take their word for what
> they say in all honesty and integrity.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:51:26 -0600, "Pszemol" >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>"TheRock" > wrote in message news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
> <<>>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
> <<>>> Your reply is below
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
> <<>>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
> <<>>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
> <<>>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect" if fed too
> <<>>> often, exclusively... But nutritious, pathogen-free... BobF>
> <<>>
> <<>>Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
> <<>>somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Wayne Sallee]

Another stupid troll calling others a troll.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Angel deVine < wrote on 1/2/2007 7:06 PM:
>
> Uh... you forgot RAMR......
>
>
> "Tristan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I shudder to think what bieng one of CArols socks would
> > entail........since the sock is connected to that loon, there could
> > not ne anything positive associated with it.
> >
> > Hey Carol.....BOOOOOOOOOO....you lunatic!
> >
> >
> > -------
> > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
>
>
> Tristan wrote:
> >
> > Yep.......dollar for dollar.Filterdirect.com is the way togo.
> > You can buy a Kent or coralife or any number of other "big name"
> > brands sold by aquarium and fish shops, and one is not any better tan
> > the other. You can get soaked dollar wise or get a perfectly capanble
> > unit and sabe a lot of money. Checkout Ebay auciton site for a selled
> > that goes by filterdirect. You can elect to bid on enbay or just use
> > his toll free number and give him a call. His phone nuber is listed on
> > his ebay store stuff. The fellas name is Oscar, andhe is locate din
> > CAlifornia. He willsellyou a unit without haivng to go through Ebay
> > for whatever his buy it now price is, which is about half of what most
> > LFS charge for a similar unit.
> >
> > Somew folks say 100 gpd is not the way to go as its not going to give
> > good water. I have two of them and both are 99% pure output accoding
> > to my TDS meter. If yu prefer to go with a lower GPD rate, Oscar will
> > install whatever membrane you desire for no additional charge.......
> > IMHO , I give $122 for a RODI unit with reechargeable DI resin
> > carts, and a total of 5 stages delivered to my door. Thats a good
> > price. I gave 108 for a unit from Aqua Safe or somehting liek that,
> > who is yet another seller on ebay and the unit has been nothng but
> > trouble, and when yu consider whats involved with them, its hard to
> > imagine they can be problematic. I have had trouble with auto shut
> > off, cracking housings etc etc. It cost me $130 delivered and its been
> > crap. I have since purchased yet another from Filterdirect and
> > installed it in my barn for my fish room down there andits been
> > trouble free as well. So my vopte is out to Oscar of Filterdirect for
> > a good price and great service on a rodi unit. That is unless you like
> > to plop down 200+ and not get anythng any better
> > http://www.filterdirect.com
> >
> > So Kurt how close did that nasty weather ocme to yur place. Hear 5 or
> > 6 houses wwre demolished near Jacksonville..........real bummer.
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:50:33 -0500, KurtG
> > > wrote:
> >
> > <<>>
> > <<>>I'm looking into an RO system, so I can give up buying gallon
> jugs at
> > <<>>walmart. Any recommendations?
> > <<>>
> > <<>>--Kurt
> >
> >
> >
> > -------
> > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
>
>
>
> Tristan wrote:
>>
>> I hate to say it , but Wet web media have a host of folks renowned
>> for their work in the marine world. You can take their word for what
>> they say in all honesty and integrity.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:51:26 -0600, "Pszemol" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> <<>>"TheRock" > wrote in message
>> news:xzRjh.1227$oo4.1082@trndny09...
>> <<>>> I wrote the wet web media crew:
>> <<>>> <<>>> Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
>> <<>>> Your reply is below
>> <<>>> <<>>> Question: Swee****er Zooplankton is fresh water Daphnia.
>> <<>>> Any thoughts on feeding freshwater plankton to Marine creatures ?
>> <<>>> I've been using it for 4 years and my fish seem to like it.
>> <<>>> <It is useful for marine use... has a similar "laxative effect"
>> if fed too <<>>> often, exclusively... But nutritious,
>> pathogen-free... BobF>
>> <<>>
>> <<>>Any data on composition or nutritional value backing up
>> <<>>somehow this "usefulness" or this is just an opinion ?
>>
>>
>>
>> -------
>> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Add Homonym]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Another stupid troll calling others a troll.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>

If so, these trolls are amatures. THAT was not a very good troll. THIS
would be a good troll for the froup:

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HELP!

I have an unusual problem with a derasa that perhaps someone here could
help with. It's somewhat urgent.

Long story, but the short version is this: I ran out of DT's oyster
eggs, which I was feeding to my derasa (and my acro's) - anyway, it's
like 11:30 at night, and I am wondering what to do to feed my inverts...

Then I got thinking... DT's oyster eggs... basically just live
gametes... where the heck can I find live gametes at 11:30 at night. I
was staring at my derasa, noticing it's wonderful shape, when an idea
came to me...

Anyway, the idea did not work out as well as I had hoped. "Taget
feeding" didn't go over so well with the derasa, and, well, um, now I
sort of seem to have a very sensitive and somewhat important body part
with a derasa shell clamped down on it. It's turning purple (body part,
not the derasa - if it WAS the derasa turning purple, that's be cool,
'coz I could resell it to someone stupid and tell 'em it was a maxima...)

anyway, anyone have any tips on getting the derasa to let go without
harming it or me?

[MacLiken]

Roy Tristan Hauer, dangerously obsessed with women, calls them all attention
whores now net stalking Gail Futoran.........

"Carols Nightmare" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Gail Futoran wrote:
> Not a lot of anythng worth a ****......being that all Gail Futoran is,
> is an attention whore that loves to create problems in other groups and
> then skip on out and let the turmoil stew. What happened Gail did old
> Ron give your sorry useless trashy ass the heave ho for the pond group
> as you thought you were the only one that mayttered. Good freaking
> ridence toyou and your tuypes. Your really worse than the big time
> attention whore you love to mimick so much Carol Gulley....... YOu
> thought your **** did not stink but the entire group had to be
> fumigated when you got booted!
>
>
> Thank goodness for google history now we all know where yur sorry ass
> hangs so we can there fore divide our attention to where you now hanbg
> like you did to us in the other aquaria groups.....I suspect your
> groups are gonna see lots of traffic veryshortly. Folks can thank you
> for this Gail.......YOu should have stayed home when yu left with your
> toys instead of inviting disaster like you have.

"Peter Pan" > wrote in message
...
> I just went to the local LFS and purchased some Zoo Plankton for the
> smaller fish in my tank. The directions are very vauge, it says
refrigerate
> after opening, but it doesnt have an experation date on it. Roughly how
long
> will it keep before going bad?
>
>