Are my baby fish dead!? (And other questions from a beginner).

[unitarymatrix]

I have 2 questions.

Recently I bought a tank and filled it with 3 guppies, 1 potbellied
molly, 3 african dwarf frogs, and 1 golden mystery snail. And a bunch
of live plants transported from a tank in the store. I know, quite a
little ecosystem I have there.

Well, 1 day after I got the aquarium, I noticed 8 or 9 little baby fish
swimming around that weren't there before! (I assume they either were
hatched from eggs attached to the live plants, or that maybe one of the
fish was pregnant and gave a live birth. I think the molly is capable
of that.)

But today, overnight, I can't find any of them. Whaaaa! Did they get
sucked into the filter? They didn't seem to have that problem during
the day yesterday. But then, I did turn the light off (maybe they got
confused). Did the frogs eat them? Did the other fish? How did I go
from 8 fish fine all day and then having them all gone?

It may have something to do with this stone I threw in the tank. The
lady in the pet store gave me a strange little disklike stone that's
shaped a little like a sea shell (about 3 or 4 inches in diameter).
She said it was for the snails for the tank's akalinity (or salinity?
I don't know. Woe is me who did not pay enough attention...)

When I put it in, the disk started to dissolve in the water, and I let
it sit there for a whole day before I got worried, and took it out as
it showed no sign of stopping it's dissolving action. Now for question
2: What *is* that stone. What am I supposed to do with it?

[Edward]

African Frogs eat fish and adult guppies eat there babies!!! The frogs
may even be capable of eating adult guppies, you'll have to watch them
closely. What size tank do you have? Anyway don't get any more fish or
other life for about a months time, you'll do fine. Also as for the
snails, not a good idea for a new tank, they need some algae to feed on,
until your tank gets algae can give them little bits of (thawed)frozen
spinach. I'm not sure what your disolving stones are(they could be any
number of things)but I'm pretty sure you don't need them.
Ed

[Tristan]

On 25 Dec 2006 11:55:04 -0800, "unitarymatrix"
> wrote:

<<>>I have 2 questions.
<<>>
<<>>Recently I bought a tank and filled it with 3 guppies, 1 potbellied
<<>>molly, 3 african dwarf frogs, and 1 golden mystery snail. And a bunch
<<>>of live plants transported from a tank in the store. I know, quite a
<<>>little ecosystem I have there.
<<>>
<<>>Well, 1 day after I got the aquarium, I noticed 8 or 9 little baby fish
<<>>swimming around that weren't there before! (I assume they either were
<<>>hatched from eggs attached to the live plants, or that maybe one of the
<<>>fish was pregnant and gave a live birth. I think the molly is capable
<<>>of that.)

Probably baby guppy fry...they breed like rabbits and once insemenated
by a male can have a batch of fry every 28 days for about 6 months
time frame or so...
<<>>
<<>>But today, overnight, I can't find any of them. Whaaaa! Did they get
<<>>sucked into the filter? They didn't seem to have that problem during
<<>>the day yesterday. But then, I did turn the light off (maybe they got
<<>>confused). Did the frogs eat them? Did the other fish? How did I go
<<>>from 8 fish fine all day and then having them all gone?
POssible thry g9ot eaten by the biugger fish, can;'t say about the
frogs as I do not fool with them only when they are huge then they
become sautee'd in butter but I do not think the frogs yu have are
goona get beig enbough to eat their legs.yum yum....Good possibility
they got sucked into the filter, so get apiece of foam for the end of
the filter water pickup tube and use it, until the fry (the next time
if they are gone and not hiding) get some size to them. Its a
wellknown fact..Big fish eat small fish, even if it is their own
offspring. Small fish and big fish can be come victims of filter inlet
tubes very easy......and foam filter is the basic means to stop this
when baby fish are present.
<<>>
<<>>It may have something to do with this stone I threw in the tank. The
<<>>lady in the pet store gave me a strange little disklike stone that's
<<>>shaped a little like a sea shell (about 3 or 4 inches in diameter).
<<>>She said it was for the snails for the tank's akalinity (or salinity?
<<>>I don't know. Woe is me who did not pay enough attention...)

You wold be best advised to "remember" what the items are. Odds are it
was either to jack iup PH or a dissolving feeder. What is yur ph now?
Why did yu feel a ned to increase it if you did not know what it was
to begine with if that was the case. Do not add nayhting without
knowing full why the reasdon yu "have" to add it and also make sure
you have a means to check for the compound yur adding. If you do not
kow the element yur adding, do not add it. That little bit of advice
can keepyou out of a lot of trouble one day.trust me. If it does not
have ingredients listed and a test kit to check do not use
it.......All an lfs is is a place that wants the money, and they are
always glad to recomend somethng or other to part a person and their
money, be it good bad worthwhle or a joke.
<<>>
<<>>When I put it in, the disk started to dissolve in the water, and I let
<<>>it sit there for a whole day before I got worried, and took it out as
<<>>it showed no sign of stopping it's dissolving action. Now for question
<<>>2: What *is* that stone. What am I supposed to do with it?\

Take the "stone" out until you find out exactly what it is for, what
it was supposed to do and verify that yu really had such a need to do
what the stone is supposed to do....





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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[nut]

unitarymatrix wrote:
> I have 2 questions.
>
> Recently I bought a tank and filled it with 3 guppies, 1 potbellied
> molly, 3 african dwarf frogs, and 1 golden mystery snail. And a bunch
> of live plants transported from a tank in the store. I know, quite a
> little ecosystem I have there.
>
> Well, 1 day after I got the aquarium, I noticed 8 or 9 little baby
> fish swimming around that weren't there before! (I assume they
> either were hatched from eggs attached to the live plants, or that
> maybe one of the fish was pregnant and gave a live birth. I think
> the molly is capable of that.)

Both guppies and mollies are live bearers.

It's highly unlikely they've come from the plants... what's far more likely
is that you had a pregnant guppy.

> But today, overnight, I can't find any of them. Whaaaa! Did they get
> sucked into the filter? They didn't seem to have that problem during
> the day yesterday. But then, I did turn the light off (maybe they got
> confused). Did the frogs eat them? Did the other fish? How did I go
> from 8 fish fine all day and then having them all gone?

9/10 fry won't survive... some are born deformed, others are eaten, some get
stuck somewhere or sucked into the filter... the good news is that your
guppy will probably produce another brood in a few weeks.

> It may have something to do with this stone I threw in the tank. The
> lady in the pet store gave me a strange little disklike stone that's
> shaped a little like a sea shell (about 3 or 4 inches in diameter).
> She said it was for the snails for the tank's akalinity (or salinity?
> I don't know. Woe is me who did not pay enough attention...)

Well it's not salinity... the mollies like a bit of salt in the water, but
the others inhabitants of your tank don't need it.

Mollies like 1 tablespoon of 100% pure sea salt per bucket of water you
add... this'll help prevent white spot and keep them healty. The guppies
don't mind it, but you'd have to check the frogs & snail will be ok
beforehand.

It's most likely either a ph buffer or a slow-feeding tablet you put in.

> When I put it in, the disk started to dissolve in the water, and I let
> it sit there for a whole day before I got worried, and took it out as
> it showed no sign of stopping it's dissolving action. Now for
> question 2: What *is* that stone. What am I supposed to do with it?

1. Impossible to say without reading the packet it came in.
2. Throw it in the bin.



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[Jen]

"unitarymatrix" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I have 2 questions.
>
> Recently I bought a tank and filled it with 3 guppies, 1 potbellied
> molly, 3 african dwarf frogs, and 1 golden mystery snail. And a bunch
> of live plants transported from a tank in the store. I know, quite a
> little ecosystem I have there.
>
> Well, 1 day after I got the aquarium, I noticed 8 or 9 little baby fish
> swimming around that weren't there before! (I assume they either were
> hatched from eggs attached to the live plants, or that maybe one of the
> fish was pregnant and gave a live birth. I think the molly is capable
> of that.)
>
> But today, overnight, I can't find any of them. Whaaaa! Did they get
> sucked into the filter? They didn't seem to have that problem during
> the day yesterday. But then, I did turn the light off (maybe they got
> confused). Did the frogs eat them? Did the other fish? How did I go
> from 8 fish fine all day and then having them all gone?
>
> It may have something to do with this stone I threw in the tank. The
> lady in the pet store gave me a strange little disklike stone that's
> shaped a little like a sea shell (about 3 or 4 inches in diameter).
> She said it was for the snails for the tank's akalinity (or salinity?
> I don't know. Woe is me who did not pay enough attention...)
>
> When I put it in, the disk started to dissolve in the water, and I let
> it sit there for a whole day before I got worried, and took it out as
> it showed no sign of stopping it's dissolving action. Now for question
> 2: What *is* that stone. What am I supposed to do with it?
>

Why don't you go back to the shop you bought it all from, and either look
around for what looks the same, or ask what it was?


Jen

[Tynk]

Edward wrote:
> African Frogs eat fish and adult guppies eat there babies!!! The frogs
> may even be capable of eating adult guppies, you'll have to watch them
> closely. What size tank do you have? Anyway don't get any more fish or
> other life for about a months time, you'll do fine. Also as for the
> snails, not a good idea for a new tank, they need some algae to feed on,
> until your tank gets algae can give them little bits of (thawed)frozen
> spinach. I'm not sure what your disolving stones are(they could be any
> number of things)but I'm pretty sure you don't need them.
> Ed

Ed.....

The original poster mentioned African *Dwarf* Frogs, not African frogs.
The dwarves stay quite small and aren't going to be able to catch Guppy
or Molly fry.
They also aren't going to eat adult Gups either.
The regular Africans that you are thinking of....they're capable of
eating anything they can fit into their mouths.

A side note on the ADF's....I hope the poster is feeding them frozen
Bloodworms.
The #1 killer of these frogs is starvation from either the wrong food
type or not knowing how to feed them properly.