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Ali Day
May 14th 04, 02:29 PM
What is the most reliable, or which online fish encyclopedia do most readers
use?

Cheers

A

RedForeman ©®
May 14th 04, 02:46 PM
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is that better??

Ali Day
May 14th 04, 02:57 PM
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
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> axelrods?

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NetMax
May 14th 04, 03:24 PM
"Ali Day" > wrote in message
...
> What is the most reliable, or which online fish encyclopedia do most
readers
> use?
>
> Cheers
>
> A

That really varies by your definition of requirements. I put a few up on
my links page:
http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml#fishid
imo
-fishbase is dry, scientific and 'reliable'

-aquariacentral, fishindex and fishprofiles are good to fill in missing
pieces of information on misc fish

-the specialty sites planetcatfish, scotcat, loaches, cichlidrecipe,
malawicichlids etc are much better in content detail but limited to a
narrower range of fish

-and then there is the google search or mining the archives

Not any site has everything, but fishbase comes the closest to having the
widest reach.
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Ali Day
May 14th 04, 03:50 PM
> That really varies by your definition of requirements. I put a few up on
> my links page:
> http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml#fishid
> imo
> -fishbase is dry, scientific and 'reliable'
> Not any site has everything, but fishbase comes the closest to having the
> widest reach.

As ever thanks. One of the problems I have is the difference in ideal fish
environments, i.e we all know discus like soft acidic water, but I have seen
some encylopedia's saying they can live in any hardness up to a ph of 8.
Fishbase says discus max ph is 6.2 but this is true for wild discus, whereas
bred captive discus will handle 7 without a problem, and this continues with
discrepancies for all fish.
I just wondered is there was one I hadn't seen that someone swears by. I
have a warm tank 28ish deg C and want to know what I can put in there before
I buy.

cheers

A

NetMax
May 14th 04, 11:51 PM
"Ali Day" > wrote in message
...
> > That really varies by your definition of requirements. I put a few
up on
> > my links page:
> > http://www.2cah.com/netmax/Links/links.shtml#fishid
> > imo
> > -fishbase is dry, scientific and 'reliable'
> > Not any site has everything, but fishbase comes the closest to having
the
> > widest reach.
>
> As ever thanks. One of the problems I have is the difference in ideal
fish
> environments, i.e we all know discus like soft acidic water, but I have
seen
> some encylopedia's saying they can live in any hardness up to a ph of
8.
> Fishbase says discus max ph is 6.2 but this is true for wild discus,
whereas
> bred captive discus will handle 7 without a problem, and this continues
with
> discrepancies for all fish.
> I just wondered is there was one I hadn't seen that someone swears by.
I
> have a warm tank 28ish deg C and want to know what I can put in there
before
> I buy.
>
> cheers
>
> A

Ah yes, fishbase supplies the local conditions the fish are found in, not
limits. Farmed fish can be significantly different as well. There is no
such information source as you seek, and it would likely be impossible
with the ability for fish to adapt to different conditions.

As an example, I recently purchased some Nothobranchius rachovii (Blue
Pothos Killifish) and went looking for information. The UK Killifish
Association site list their temperature range as 24-27C and fishbase list
it as 20-24C. I then started researching documented spawning records and
of the five I found, 1 was in very acidic water, 2 were in mildly acidic
and 2 were in hard alkaline water.

If you have a particular fish in mind, then check the specialty sites for
known acceptable conditions. If you are looking for a broader sweep,
then go by biotope (ie: mongabay). With mud-dwellers as an exception,
most of the fish from the same river will have similar water parameter
limits.

Most of my tanks are around 25C, with Discus at 28C. Generally, if you
avoid fish from opposite extremes (in temperature, pH and hardness), then
you should not have too much trouble, however 28-30C is at the long-term
limit for many fish. In your case, fish to avoid (or double-check) are
anything from Poecilidae (livebearers), some of Cyprinidae (dace,
minnows, florida flagfish and several barbs), Cobitidae (dojos & kuhlis),
and Cyprinodontidae (various Killis and Panchax). Your chances are
better with the Characidae and other fish local to the Brazilian,
Peruvian & Columbian interior.

If you have any chance of reducing your temperatures, you will have less
trouble with matching fish (and they will all live longer too ;~).
--
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Dick
May 15th 04, 12:08 PM
On Fri, 14 May 2004 15:29:09 +0200, "Ali Day"
> wrote:

>What is the most reliable, or which online fish encyclopedia do most readers
>use?
>
>Cheers
>
>A
>
I start with Google. I get far more information and can quickly see
if there are more than one opinion on the matter. I don't think there
are best answers except the one you want. Any single source is going
to limit you to that authorities opinion. Read more than one.