sliily confused clownfish

[that *other* annoying little troll]

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!

[Tristan]

Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> wrote:

<<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
<<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
<<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.
<<>>
<<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
<<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
<<>>
<<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
<<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
<<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
<<>>
<<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
<<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
<<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
<<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
<<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
<<>>
<<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
<<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
<<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Cichlid-Mania]

Roy Tristan........SHUT THE HELL UP >>>>>>>>>>you clueless jerkoff troll! No
one cares about your flame war with disabled veterans and old ladies. take
it to email already.......... you go from group to group destroying them
with your toxic bull**** and negative vibes.

Too bad Roy Tristan Hauer your not hanging, like your buddy Jabbers Santana
contemplated doing in the suicide groups elling the depressed to kill
themselves. Now all the tweo of you do
is trash and make problems for any groups you all decide to hang out
in.

"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
> Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> nano cube......in someone elses house.
>
> I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to
swim
> <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food
to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim
though
> <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster
is
> <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't
put
> <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> <<>>
> <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.
She
> <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my
pair
> <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> <<>>
> <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to
host
> <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting
with
> <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Wayne Sallee]

That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are
tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they
don't move around like anemones.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM:
> Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> nano cube......in someone elses house.
>
> I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
> <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
> <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
> <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
> <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> <<>>
> <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
> <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
> <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> <<>>
> <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
> <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
> <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[RubenD]

I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got
stinged and develop some black spots.

Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.

I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.

BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller
or larger to avoid fighting.

Ruben




"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
link.net...
> That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are
> tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they
> don't move around like anemones.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM:
> > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> > nano cube......in someone elses house.
> >
> > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > > wrote:
> >
> > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to
swim
> > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping
food to it.
> > <<>>
> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim
though
> > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> > <<>>
> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster
is
> > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't
put
> > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> > <<>>
> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does
this
> > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.
She
> > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my
pair
> > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> > <<>>
> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to
host
> > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting
with
> > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
> >
> >
> >
> > -------
> > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Add Homonym]

RubenD wrote:
> I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got
> stinged and develop some black spots.
>
> Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.
>
> I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
> tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.
>
> BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller
> or larger to avoid fighting.
>
> Ruben
>

If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
see a nasty fight.

Best bet is always add small ones.

[Wayne Sallee]

Yep, the best is to add smaller.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Add Homonym wrote on 1/18/2007 5:51 PM:
> RubenD wrote:
>> I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but
>> got
>> stinged and develop some black spots.
>>
>> Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.
>>
>> I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
>> tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.
>>
>> BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either
>> smaller
>> or larger to avoid fighting.
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>
> If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
> larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
> see a nasty fight.
>
> Best bet is always add small ones.

[George Patterson]

Add Homonym wrote:

> If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
> larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
> see a nasty fight.

No, you won't. The smaller will change sex, and that will be that.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

[MarineLand]

Get back on your meds Roy Tristan before eveyone knows what you are. Your
alreay looking damn bad in the eyes of the public what with slandering old
women... disabled vets and whoremongering the honky tonks..........


"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
> Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> nano cube......in someone elses house.
>
> I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to
swim
> <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food
to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim
though
> <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster
is
> <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't
put
> <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> <<>>
> <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.
She
> <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my
pair
> <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> <<>>
> <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to
host
> <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting
with
> <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Shelly Sandstorm]

"Tristan" > wrote in message
...

Roy Tristan advises poster to do something illegal.........

"Roy" Tristan > wrote in message
...
> Shotgun, 22 cal rifle, mean bad dog, rocks, and the best possible
> method to take care of a heron or any other pest / predator problem is
> to follow the triple S method.......Shoot, Shovel, Shutup about it.

> Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> nano cube......in someone elses house.
>
> I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to
swim
> <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food
to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim
though
> <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster
is
> <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't
put
> <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> <<>>
> <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.
She
> <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my
pair
> <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> <<>>
> <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to
host
> <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting
with
> <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Clams & Claws]

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> hahahahaha, way to go **** head Carol, youscrewed up and neglected to
> make a few changes in the forged headers etc. Your loosing it
> carol............bye bye!


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"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
> Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
> have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
> toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
> is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
> critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
> buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
> so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
> he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
> yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
> dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
> wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
> nano cube......in someone elses house.
>
> I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
> etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
> clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
> I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
> <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to
swim
> <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food
to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim
though
> <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
> <<>>
> <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster
is
> <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't
put
> <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
> <<>>
> <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.
She
> <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
> <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my
pair
> <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical"
> <<>>
> <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to
host
> <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting
with
> <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[swarvegorilla]

"that *other* annoying little troll" > wrote in message
. ..
>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian feather
>dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim through
>the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.
>
> At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
> it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.
>
> If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
> attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
> your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.
>
> There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
> with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
> never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways (close
> enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair that
> does this - the male seems "skeptical"
>
> Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
> with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
> ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
>

I had a rock in a dead spot that got lots hair algae
the darwin morph ocellaris actually tried to breed in it several times
and I have a pair that uses a fake jelly/plastic anemone
and yep go as far as to feed it
:)

[swarvegorilla]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:vOUrh.3970$E35.3742@trnddc02...
> Add Homonym wrote:
>
>> If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
>> larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
>> see a nasty fight.
>
> No, you won't. The smaller will change sex, and that will be that.
>
> George Patterson
> Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

I thought once a male turned female he couldn't turn back into a dude?
Have always added clowns small enuf to still be male
or the larger female can kill them tryin to get them to submit
but now I'm not so sure.......

[Add Homonym]

swarvegorilla wrote:
> "George Patterson" > wrote in message
> news:vOUrh.3970$E35.3742@trnddc02...
>
>>Add Homonym wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
>>>larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
>>>see a nasty fight.
>>
>>No, you won't. The smaller will change sex, and that will be that.
>>
>>George Patterson
>> Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.
>
>
> I thought once a male turned female he couldn't turn back into a dude?
> Have always added clowns small enuf to still be male
> or the larger female can kill them tryin to get them to submit
> but now I'm not so sure.......
>
>

Yah. Your understanding was the same as mine - once femaile, they stay
that way?