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muddyfox
January 19th 07, 01:29 PM
Hi,

I've had some Cory's for about 12 months now. They were sold to me as
Corydoras julii but as they've grown their markings have come to look
more like the reticulated form. Anyhow, I have recently been in the
process of upgrading one of my tanks and the two corys have been
temporarily housed in a 30 litre betta tank with my female betta and
two amano shrimp. Since moving them I've noticed that they have this
shimmering green iridescent sheen particularly around the gill covers
and on their flanks just behind their heads. The sheen extends in
increasingly tiny patches down to the tail and it quite beautiful.
However, under some light it looks golden which is what's causing me to
worry as I've read that Velvet can appear as tiny golden salt and
pepper spots. I've been keeping fish for a number of years and have
never had a case of velvet so I'm not really sure exactly what it looks
like. I can't see any bumps, spots or slime even under magnification -
just this sheen which seems to show through in irregular patches with
lots near the head and just a tiny smattering near the tail.

In terms of the fish themselves they seem to be perfectly normal - up
to all their normal cory antics - playing the the bubbles from the
filter return, actively scavanging for food in the substrate and plants
and going bananas if I give a feed of bloodworm or tubiflex! The betta
and the shrimp are all fine too.

My tank conditions are as follows:

Ammonia 0 ppm
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate between 10 and 25 ppm (tap water is 20 around here)
Ph 7.6
Temp 79 F

The tank is fairly well planted and they get a weekly partial water
change with dechlorinated tap-water and a small squirt of plant min by
Tetra.

I'm thinking that this might just be their natural colours, perhaps
showing more now they are in a smaller tank and easier to observe but I
wondered what you all think - I don't want to miss it if it is a
problem.

There's a photo of the colouring I'm seeing at this location...


http://www.muddylittlefox.org.uk/corysheen.jpg

Thanks,

Muddy

atomweaver
January 19th 07, 02:24 PM
"muddyfox" > wrote in
ups.com:

> Hi,
>
> I've had some Cory's for about 12 months now. They were sold to me as
> Corydoras julii but as they've grown their markings have come to look
> more like the reticulated form. Anyhow, I have recently been in the
> process of upgrading one of my tanks and the two corys have been
> temporarily housed in a 30 litre betta tank with my female betta and
> two amano shrimp. Since moving them I've noticed that they have this
> shimmering green iridescent sheen particularly around the gill covers
> and on their flanks just behind their heads. The sheen extends in
> increasingly tiny patches down to the tail and it quite beautiful.
> However, under some light it looks golden which is what's causing me
> to worry as I've read that Velvet can appear as tiny golden salt and
> pepper spots. I've been keeping fish for a number of years and have
> never had a case of velvet so I'm not really sure exactly what it
> looks like.

I think your fish has definitely been mis-identified. I'd guess that
they're corydoras paleatus, and that the coloration means you're taking
fantastically good care of them...

Another pic of c. paleatus similar to yours;

http://www.moje-akvarium.net/pic/ryby/corydoras-paleatus-01.jpg

species summary at Fishbase

http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=10926
&genusname=Corydoras&speciesname=paleatus

What you have is definitely not c. julii...

> My tank conditions are as follows:
>
> Ammonia 0 ppm
> Nitrite 0 ppm
> Nitrate between 10 and 25 ppm (tap water is 20 around here)
> Ph 7.6
> Temp 79 F
>

c. paleatus like things a little on the cooler side, 74-78 F, but I
wouldn't bother to change things. Just don't go any higher on
temperature. What you have now is a reasonable compromise for the cats
and the betta. Other than that, you've got some great parameters,
there...

> I'm thinking that this might just be their natural colours, perhaps
> showing more now they are in a smaller tank and easier to observe but
> I wondered what you all think - I don't want to miss it if it is a
> problem.
>

Yeah, the smaller tank is probably putting the light source closer to
the corys, which is why you're seeing it more. I have a trio of c.
paleatus in a 20g planted, and only get to enjoy the iridescence when
they make a rare sortie into the upper 1/2 of the tank. They're a
great aquarium fish...

Regards
DaveZ
Atom Weaver

muddyfox
January 19th 07, 06:30 PM
Hi Dave,


atomweaver wrote:
> "muddyfox" > wrote in
> ups.com:
>

>
> I think your fish has definitely been mis-identified. I'd guess that
> they're corydoras paleatus, and that the coloration means you're taking
> fantastically good care of them...


That's such good news! Happy healthy fish are the heart and soul of
this hobby for me.


>
> Another pic of c. paleatus similar to yours;
>
> http://www.moje-akvarium.net/pic/ryby/corydoras-paleatus-01.jpg
>


That picture is spot on - what a good identification - thank-you!


> c. paleatus like things a little on the cooler side, 74-78 F, but I
> wouldn't bother to change things. Just don't go any higher on
> temperature. What you have now is a reasonable compromise for the cats
> and the betta. Other than that, you've got some great parameters,
> there...

Mmmm, I know what you mean about the temperature. In a few weeks the
new tank will be cycled and I can keep them in there at a slightly
lower temperature with maybe a couple of other corys from another tank.
They're going in with a group of Lemon tetra, a pair of Dwarf
Gouramis, a Khulii loach and my absolute favourites - some Rummynose
Tetra - I just adore their bright little red noses and the beautiful
contrasting black and white striped tail, especially against a heavily
planted background.


>
> Yeah, the smaller tank is probably putting the light source closer to
> the corys, which is why you're seeing it more. I have a trio of c.
> paleatus in a 20g planted, and only get to enjoy the iridescence when
> they make a rare sortie into the upper 1/2 of the tank. They're a
> great aquarium fish...


They are excellent fish - always busy and very peaceful - I could watch
them for hours. Their previous tank was a high tech planted tank with
T5 lighting and CO2 injection - they seemed to really enjoy the dense
planting. The new tank will be planted up too but I'm going to try for
a low-light approach this time with lots of anubia on bogwood, crypts
and java fern. I hope they like it.


Thanks so much for your reply - it's put my mind at rest and properly
identified my fish!!! I really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Sal (Muddy)