Re: White Stuff, not on Fish

[muddyfox]

On 29 Jan, 22:51, "David J. Braunegg" >
wrote:
> I've got some white, cottony "threads" (~1/4" long) showing up on the glass
> and a little on a rock, but I see nothing on the fish. Any ideas on what it
> could be (fungus?) and treatment?
>

Hi Dave,

I don't know if it's the same thing but I have a 120 litre tank (30 US
Gallon) which I'm currently running through a fishless cycle and since
I put in a nice java fern on bogwood and some other plants to help
things along I've got an infestation of small white 1/4 inch threads
which attach to the glass and filter housing. If I look really
closely they have a tiny branched bit on the end (like little
umbrellas). At first I thought they might be some kind of spore since
there is also a heavy infestation on the java fern but under a
microscope I've seen both a 'hydra-like' infusoria spp and branched
thread like thing with these little moving blobs on the end. I'm not
so worried about the hydra type creature but the branched thing could
be some kind of fungus and seems to fit better with what I'm seeing
with the naked eye. I haven't yet been able to identify it. There's
a sketch I made at:

http://www.muddylittlefox.org.uk/microscopy-120Lit.jpg

Maybe I need an anti-fungal too?

Thanks,

Muddy

[Tristan]

If its p ossible to QT the fish in that tank on a temporary basis for
about 6 or 8 hours, a potassium Permanganate treatment would render
any fungus or other undesired junk inert. If it was fungus or a
simple one cell growth, it wold be oxidized into oblivion, and no
damage done to other plants. You can find PP at Lowes in the pond
section. I fiind it invaluable for fungal or other problems which are
normally encountered with aquarium or pond fish. Its simply an
oxidizer, not a med......
A 2% solution should be more than sufficieint for any pond or tank
related problem. All fish do not take kindly to PP so thats why I
recomended removing them temporarily until 6 to8 hour cycle of
treatment is over with or neutralized.


On 30 Jan 2007 05:50:27 -0800, "muddyfox" >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>
<<>>On 29 Jan, 22:51, "David J. Braunegg" >
<<>>wrote:
<<>>> I've got some white, cottony "threads" (~1/4" long) showing up on the glass
<<>>> and a little on a rock, but I see nothing on the fish. Any ideas on what it
<<>>> could be (fungus?) and treatment?
<<>>>
<<>>
<<>>Hi Dave,
<<>>
<<>>I don't know if it's the same thing but I have a 120 litre tank (30 US
<<>>Gallon) which I'm currently running through a fishless cycle and since
<<>>I put in a nice java fern on bogwood and some other plants to help
<<>>things along I've got an infestation of small white 1/4 inch threads
<<>>which attach to the glass and filter housing. If I look really
<<>>closely they have a tiny branched bit on the end (like little
<<>>umbrellas). At first I thought they might be some kind of spore since
<<>>there is also a heavy infestation on the java fern but under a
<<>>microscope I've seen both a 'hydra-like' infusoria spp and branched
<<>>thread like thing with these little moving blobs on the end. I'm not
<<>>so worried about the hydra type creature but the branched thing could
<<>>be some kind of fungus and seems to fit better with what I'm seeing
<<>>with the naked eye. I haven't yet been able to identify it. There's
<<>>a sketch I made at:
<<>>
<<>>http://www.muddylittlefox.org.uk/microscopy-120Lit.jpg
<<>>
<<>>Maybe I need an anti-fungal too?
<<>>
<<>>Thanks,
<<>>
<<>>Muddy
<<>>
<<>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[muddyfox]

Hi,

I've just had another, more detailed, look under the microscope at the
organism which seems to be blooming in my tank and seems very similar
to David's and made some more detailed drawings. Then I sent the
drawings to a microbiologist who has identified them as (probably) a
stalked peritrich, which is a kind of ciliate protozoan. I think it
should be harmless in the aquarium and should not cause any disease in
fish so I'm breathing a big sigh of relief. Of course, I don't know
if this is the same organism as David's or not, but, certainly on the
surface, it seem to be good news!

Hope this helps,

Muddy

[Tristan]

yada yada yada, can you not say anyhting that is intelligble and not
condensending carol? Your a dumbass, always was always will be.....

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:21:53 -0600, Zëbulon >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>"muddyfox" > wrote in message
oups.com...
<<>>> I've just had another, more detailed, look under the microscope at the
<<>>> organism which seems to be blooming in my tank and seems very similar
<<>>> to David's and made some more detailed drawings. Then I sent the
<<>>> drawings to a microbiologist who has identified them as (probably) a
<<>>> stalked peritrich, which is a kind of ciliate protozoan. I think it
<<>>> should be harmless in the aquarium and should not cause any disease in
<<>>> fish so I'm breathing a big sigh of relief. Of course, I don't know
<<>>> if this is the same organism as David's or not, but, certainly on the
<<>>> surface, it seem to be good news!
<<>>==============================
<<>>I was told the only harm these do is to eat fry if small enough. If they're
<<>>the same things.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Zebulon]

"muddyfox" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I've just had another, more detailed, look under the microscope at the
> organism which seems to be blooming in my tank and seems very similar
> to David's and made some more detailed drawings. Then I sent the
> drawings to a microbiologist who has identified them as (probably) a
> stalked peritrich, which is a kind of ciliate protozoan. I think it
> should be harmless in the aquarium and should not cause any disease in
> fish so I'm breathing a big sigh of relief. Of course, I don't know
> if this is the same organism as David's or not, but, certainly on the
> surface, it seem to be good news!
==============================
I was told the only harm these do is to eat fry if small enough. If they're
the same things.
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ZB....
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[Zebulon]

"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> yada yada yada, can you not say anyhting that is intelligble and not
> condensending carol? Your a dumbass, always was always will be.....
=======================
Take that bus to the VA hospital Roy. Once back on your meds your life will
improve dramatically.
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ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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