Underwater filter

[phuile]

I have a 10gal tank and have been using a mini filter for many years
now - the type that hangs on the side of the tank. It needs to be
changed and I am wondering about changing to an underwater filter.
Does anyone have any recommendations? Or suggestions etc.?

I am putting a few platies into the tank.

Thanks.

[Zebulon]

"phuile" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I have a 10gal tank and have been using a mini filter for many years
> now - the type that hangs on the side of the tank. It needs to be
> changed and I am wondering about changing to an underwater filter.
> Does anyone have any recommendations? Or suggestions etc.?
> I am putting a few platies into the tank.
===========================
It's just my opinion but why keep the crud *IN* the tank and give up space
in the tank for a filter? I use the outside filters on all my tanks.
They're also easier to reach to clean and take up no space in the tank.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Tristan]

Yep, outside filters are much quicker, and it gives the user more
time to trash usenet groups. Getting to the crud is also much easier.
Afdterall some folks like crud (porn) like Carols husband others like
crud and detrius like Carol does. Sure would br bad to hinder access
to the stuff.......after all Carol knows it all and carol knows best.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:40:32 -0600, Zëbulon >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>"phuile" > wrote in message
ups.com...
<<>>>I have a 10gal tank and have been using a mini filter for many years
<<>>> now - the type that hangs on the side of the tank. It needs to be
<<>>> changed and I am wondering about changing to an underwater filter.
<<>>> Does anyone have any recommendations? Or suggestions etc.?
<<>>> I am putting a few platies into the tank.
<<>>===========================
<<>>It's just my opinion but why keep the crud *IN* the tank and give up space
<<>>in the tank for a filter? I use the outside filters on all my tanks.
<<>>They're also easier to reach to clean and take up no space in the tank.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Zebulon]

"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
< snip insane blather and gibbering about victim Carol>
====================
You can get help for your obsessive-depressive disorder at the nearest VA
hospital Roy. Take advantage of the free help. Us taxpayers will pick up
the tab for you, you poor unfortunate soul.........
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Jen]

<PLONK>




"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Yep, outside filters are much quicker, and it gives the user more
> time to trash usenet groups. Getting to the crud is also much easier.
> Afdterall some folks like crud (porn) like Carols husband others like
> crud and detrius like Carol does. Sure would br bad to hinder access
> to the stuff.......after all Carol knows it all and carol knows best.
>
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:40:32 -0600, Zëbulon >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>
> <<>>"phuile" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> <<>>>I have a 10gal tank and have been using a mini filter for many years
> <<>>> now - the type that hangs on the side of the tank. It needs to be
> <<>>> changed and I am wondering about changing to an underwater filter.
> <<>>> Does anyone have any recommendations? Or suggestions etc.?
> <<>>> I am putting a few platies into the tank.
> <<>>===========================
> <<>>It's just my opinion but why keep the crud *IN* the tank and give up
> space
> <<>>in the tank for a filter? I use the outside filters on all my tanks.
> <<>>They're also easier to reach to clean and take up no space in the
> tank.
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Jen]

<PLONK>

You're not helping yourself at all!!


Jen


"Zëbulon" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tristan" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
> < snip insane blather and gibbering about victim Carol>
> ====================
> You can get help for your obsessive-depressive disorder at the nearest VA
> hospital Roy. Take advantage of the free help. Us taxpayers will pick up
> the tab for you, you poor unfortunate soul.........
> --
> ZB....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> rec.ponder since late 1996.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>
>
>
>
>

[Tristan]

Hey Jen.....get over it or join in....your opinion does not mean a
darn thing in these groups!

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:14:16 GMT, "Jen" >
wrote:

<<>><PLONK>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> Yep, outside filters are much quicker, and it gives the user more
<<>>> time to trash usenet groups. Getting to the crud is also much easier.
<<>>> Afdterall some folks like crud (porn) like Carols husband others like
<<>>> crud and detrius like Carol does. Sure would br bad to hinder access
<<>>> to the stuff.......after all Carol knows it all and carol knows best.
<<>>>
<<>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:40:32 -0600, Zëbulon >
<<>>> wrote:
<<>>>
<<>>> <<>>
<<>>> <<>>"phuile" > wrote in message
<<>>> ups.com...
<<>>> <<>>>I have a 10gal tank and have been using a mini filter for many years
<<>>> <<>>> now - the type that hangs on the side of the tank. It needs to be
<<>>> <<>>> changed and I am wondering about changing to an underwater filter.
<<>>> <<>>> Does anyone have any recommendations? Or suggestions etc.?
<<>>> <<>>> I am putting a few platies into the tank.
<<>>> <<>>===========================
<<>>> <<>>It's just my opinion but why keep the crud *IN* the tank and give up
<<>>> space
<<>>> <<>>in the tank for a filter? I use the outside filters on all my tanks.
<<>>> <<>>They're also easier to reach to clean and take up no space in the
<<>>> tank.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> -------
<<>>> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
<<>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Dave Doe]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Tristan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> < snip insane blather and gibbering about victim Carol>
> ====================
> You can get help for your obsessive-depressive disorder at the nearest VA
> hospital Roy. Take advantage of the free help. Us taxpayers will pick up
> the tab for you, you poor unfortunate soul.........

PLEASE! stop responding to him - put him in your killfile like no doubt
most of the rest of us have.

--
Duncan

[Zebulon]

"phuile" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> I am putting a few platies into the tank.
=========================
I forgot to add.... if you don't want loads and loads of platys get a few
males. Platys can be very prolific! ;-)
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[phuile]

Thanks, I will remember the point about the male platys.
About the fitler. I have some what limited space and because of the
hood of the tank, I have to hang the filter on the back of the tank
but I really want to hang it on the side. The water flow is also at a
better direction (as my tank is originally set up as a feng shui tank)
and right now, the filter flow water towards the door. This may not be
of any concern to some but if I am getting a new fitler, I'd like to
figure out how I can get the filter to hang on the side, or to get an
underwater one to eliminate the water flow problem entirely. But it
looks like the recommendations are not good!

Any other suggestions welcome!

[Zebulon]

"phuile" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Thanks, I will remember the point about the male platys.
> About the fitler. I have some what limited space and because of the
> hood of the tank, I have to hang the filter on the back of the tank
> but I really want to hang it on the side. The water flow is also at a
> better direction (as my tank is originally set up as a feng shui tank)
> and right now, the filter flow water towards the door. This may not be
> of any concern to some but if I am getting a new fitler, I'd like to
> figure out how I can get the filter to hang on the side, or to get an
> underwater one to eliminate the water flow problem entirely. But it
> looks like the recommendations are not good!
>
> Any other suggestions welcome!
=============================
Anything you hang on the side will be in the way of the light as I
understand it. That would leave you with a small canister filter of some
kind. There would only be two hoses involved. There are those small
inside-the-tank filters as a last resort.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Tristan]

Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:33:51 -0600, Zëbulon >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>"phuile" > wrote in message
oups.com...
<<>>> Thanks, I will remember the point about the male platys.
<<>>> About the fitler. I have some what limited space and because of the
<<>>> hood of the tank, I have to hang the filter on the back of the tank
<<>>> but I really want to hang it on the side. The water flow is also at a
<<>>> better direction (as my tank is originally set up as a feng shui tank)
<<>>> and right now, the filter flow water towards the door. This may not be
<<>>> of any concern to some but if I am getting a new fitler, I'd like to
<<>>> figure out how I can get the filter to hang on the side, or to get an
<<>>> underwater one to eliminate the water flow problem entirely. But it
<<>>> looks like the recommendations are not good!
<<>>>
<<>>> Any other suggestions welcome!
<<>>=============================
<<>>Anything you hang on the side will be in the way of the light as I
<<>>understand it. That would leave you with a small canister filter of some
<<>>kind. There would only be two hoses involved. There are those small
<<>>inside-the-tank filters as a last resort.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Duron~dae]

Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN


Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000

Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zebulon]

Roy "Tristan" Hauer/Hope Hull > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
=============================
Anyone can see you need professional help desperately Roy Tristan Hauer, as
I am apparently destroying your life by merely existing. Prozac, maybe
Thorazine can help you get over your obsession with me and professional
counseling can help you get over using personal attacks, fantasies and
slander as an ego builder and attention getter. Talk to your Dr at the VA
hospital about the proper medications to help you control yourself. You can
live a normal life free of hate, lies, feelings of inferiority and
obsessions but you must make an effort to help yourself. Don't you want to
feel good about yourself again? Your Dr at the VA can help you.

Net stalking and slandering old grandmothers and disabled veterans wont make
you the man you want to be in the eyes of the world.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>

[Tristan]

YOu really do not have a clue do you?]



On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:13:54 -0600, "Duron~dae" >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote in
<<>>message ...
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
<<>>> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
<<>>Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000
<<>>
<<>>Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Duron~dae]

Roy "Tristan" Hauer > wrote in message
...
> YOu really do not have a clue do you?]

You don't have a clue Roy Hauer. If you had a clue you'd go back to the VA
hospital and stay in treatment. Harassing and net stalking and slandering
old ladies and crippled veterans doesn't make you look like a hero.

>
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:13:54 -0600, "Duron~dae" >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>
> <<>>Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote
> in
> <<>>message ...
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
> <<>>> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
> <<>>Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000
> <<>>
> <<>>Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> <<>>
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Zëbulon]

>wrote:

> Lustful immoral-girl with moist hot quivering love-purse and weakened
> nectarines is in need of hopeless snapper slapper for raving bawdy
> banquet. Mail me at >

[Carol Gulley]

>wrote:

> < snip insane blather and gibbering about victim Carol>.

Sociopathic Tendencies ====================== Not learning from
experience. *CHECK* No sense of responsibility. *CHECK* Inability to
form meaningful relationships. *CHECK* Inability to control impulses.
Hmmmm. I suppose I have no choice. *CHECK* Lack of moral sense. *CHECK*
Chronically antisocial behavior. *CHECK* (no choice) No change in
behavior after punishment. *CHECK* Lack of guilt. *CHECK*
Self-centeredness. *CHECK* Yes, I seem to be sociopathically insane,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=EBbulon?=. And the problem with that is what, exactly?

> >.

You can't.

> You can get help for your obsessive-depressive disorder at the nearest
> VA hospital Roy.

I think that you are the one who should see a doctor.

> Take advantage of the free help.

Why do you need help?

> Us taxpayers will pick up the tab for you, you poor unfortunate soul.

I know you probably have someone else picked for the job, but if they
have a nervous breakdown, I'll step in.

--
WE.........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================

[Carol Gulley]

>wrote:

> >.

You ought to wake up, man. You're in the prostitution business.

> My boyfriend and i have been together 4 years now and we are very
> happy and i also thought we was quite normal until he confronted me
> telling me he wanted a sex change.

Hopefully, you will die painfully in a horrible accident.

> You don't have a clue Roy Hauer.

I feel bad for what happened to you.

> If you had a clue you'd go back to the VA hospital and stay in
> treatment.

I would? How, exactly, would I [%], Duron~dae?

> Harassing and net stalking and slandering old ladies and crippled
> veterans doesn't make you look like a hero.

Do you have a girlfriend?

> >.

I would like to continue to see you from time to time. I just can't deal
with some of the things you might do around other people.

> Really, I need help with klonopin withdrawal.

Do you have any friends you can talk to about it, Duron~dae? Scratch
that. Stupid question.

--
WE.........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================

[Duron~dae]

>wrote:

> Teeny loose woman with hulking banana box and scurvy top-******** begs
> for dishonourable monty's python for angry bone burying. Mail me at
> >

[Carol Gulley]

>wrote:

> >.

Jesus loves you.

> I'm not bald, merely follicly challenged.

I am here to mock you, not diagnose your problems or play agony aunt.

> >.

I don't want to hurt your feelings.

> I have chronic constipation.

You made your bed, Duron~dae. Die in it.

> Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt.

I'd let you in if you weren't driving a Japanese car.

> Juliet - $70,000+ Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL
> - $23,000.

Deceptive.

> >.

I doubt it matters. Maybe you don't have to know any of that.

> I'm 14 and have started exploring with a viberator up my butt well I
> was wondering if it would be ok to actually use a fake dildo for more
> plesure.(am i'm still a virgin?)

You also have numerous, nasty blackheads on your nose.

> Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And just what was it that you found so funny, Duron~dae?

--
WE.........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================

[Jen]

Is this all the same person being a total fool??

<PLONK!>


"Duron~dae" > wrote in message
...
>
> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote in
> message ...
>>
>>
>> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
>> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
>
>
> Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000
>
> Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>

[Jen]

<PLONK!!>


"Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
>> >.
>
> You ought to wake up, man. You're in the prostitution business.
>
>> My boyfriend and i have been together 4 years now and we are very
>> happy and i also thought we was quite normal until he confronted me
>> telling me he wanted a sex change.
>
> Hopefully, you will die painfully in a horrible accident.
>
>> You don't have a clue Roy Hauer.
>
> I feel bad for what happened to you.
>
>> If you had a clue you'd go back to the VA hospital and stay in
>> treatment.
>
> I would? How, exactly, would I [%], Duron~dae?
>
>> Harassing and net stalking and slandering old ladies and crippled
>> veterans doesn't make you look like a hero.
>
> Do you have a girlfriend?
>
>> >.
>
> I would like to continue to see you from time to time. I just can't deal
> with some of the things you might do around other people.
>
>> Really, I need help with klonopin withdrawal.
>
> Do you have any friends you can talk to about it, Duron~dae? Scratch
> that. Stupid question.
>
> --
> WE.........
> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
> ================================

[Tristan]

Just who are you g0oona plonk there Jen.Plonking trolls are like
plonking the entire telephone directory with call blocking....and then
set and wonder why no calls come in..Your about a dumbasss Jen...just
like your hero CArol Gulley and Ed Alston...
Dumbass, you hear me, a real dumbass! Take yur ponk and shove it
where the sun don't shine its meaningless you fool!

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:36:51 GMT, "Jen" >
wrote:

<<>>Is this all the same person being a total fool??
<<>>
<<>><PLONK!>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>"Duron~dae" > wrote in message
...
<<>>>
<<>>> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote in
<<>>> message ...
<<>>>>
<<>>>>
<<>>>> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
<<>>>> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
<<>>> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000
<<>>>
<<>>> Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[No Spam]

Yep, follow the headers. Its 2 people that keep posting and reply back to
themselves. They lose 1 ISP from AUP violations and then find another and
start all over again changing posting names as they go. Just ignore it
although they flood every topic with this crap....

"Jen" > wrote in message
...
> Is this all the same person being a total fool??
>
> <PLONK!>
>
>
> "Duron~dae" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Hope Hull > wrote in
>> message ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Utter bull**** and lies yet again spewed forth by carol gulley the
>>> trailer park trash ho ofMt. Juliet, TN
>>
>>
>> Tristan's victim: Median income in Mt. Juliet - $70,000+
>> Roy "Tristan" Hauer = Median income in Hope Hull AL - $23,000
>>
>> Who lives in trailer park Roy Tristan Hauer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>
>