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Finzeo
February 8th 07, 01:20 AM
I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other posters. Why
is that Roy Tristan? What makes this group and it's members immune from your
attacks and trolling? You realize you've destroyed the pond, goldfish and
misc aquarium groups don't you? What's your motive Roy Tristan, for
destroying all those other groups. You even invaded the rose group to get to
your victim Gail. If we all move here will you let us post in peace and stop
calling the women sluts and whores and telling the disabled to commit
suicide as you did Ed Alston?


"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Dunno, but I have a hard time beliveing that food stuff harvested from
> FW or SW is really handled so that it is not a cesspool of pathogens
> fron setting in the sun, becoming warm etc etc., Afterall its a fish
> etc that is eating it, and who could tell one way or another if lousy
> substance was indeed the problem, or how it was handled or how it was
> stored and handled by vendor.......there is a long list of "what ifs"
> in regards to decent food.....Heck we all know food destined for human
> consumption is also not handled properly.........nor is feed stuff
> intended for cows and other domestic critters made and stored
> properly....
> My wife is always condeming trailer loads of foods destined for
> grocery stores all due to handling issues........so we can allpretty
> well assure outselves pet foods are probably a deplorable
> substance....then again animals can usually tolerate foods that a
> human being could not dream of eating.........so maybe short of
> nutrion its all not worth while being concerned with if your buying
> spoiled frozen or stuff thats worth the price they ask.
>
> I guess I will go on with making and feeding my home brew SW foods,
> and also feed it to those FW fish that will eat it.....supplement what
> I make with decent brand name at least pelleted feeds on both ends FW
> and SW.
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:22:13 +0000, Gill Passman
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>Pszemol wrote:
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>> The problem with feeding foods from different environment is
> <<>>> in my opinion related more to nutrition composition - feeding
> <<>>> freshwater animals to marine predators would probably cause
> <<>>> malnutrition since freshwater foods did not grow eating marine
> <<>>> plankton but rather terrestial plants, insects, fruits - different
> <<>>> food chain. Marine fish should eat marine foods rich in fatty
> <<>>> acids and nutrients found in the sea not terrestial plants, right?
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>Absolutely so here is the dilemma....on one hand it is good to feed FW
> <<>>stuff from SW and SW good from FW from a pathogen and disease
> prevention
> <<>>point of view...but on the other hand the nutritional requirements
> <<>>differ....so if you feed FW fish exclusively on stuff from SW then you
> <<>>are storing up health problems with liver/kidney/mineral
> <<>>deficiency...and if you feed SW exclusively a freshwater diet you are
> <<>>depriving them of the high protein diet and the type of plant matter
> <<>>they can naturally digest....
> <<>>
> <<>>Now logic would actually suggest that FW eat FW stuff and SW eat SW
> <<>>stuff....but there are a number of articles that suggest that this is
> <<>>the wrong way to go in terms of controlling disease and
> pathogens....but
> <<>>nutritionally it doesn't make sense....
> <<>>
> <<>>So by following this doctorate are we actually shortening the lives of
> <<>>our fish and critters by protecting them from disease in the short
> term
> <<>>only to get long term health issues? Or should we actually be
> <<>>concentrating on finding healthy foodstuffs free of pathogens for both
> <<>>our freshwater and sal****er buddies?
> <<>>
> <<>>Gill
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Carol Gulley
February 8th 07, 04:59 AM
>wrote:

> I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other
> posters.

Don't kill yourself.

> Why is that Roy Tristan? What makes this group and it's members immune
> from your attacks and trolling? You realize you've destroyed the pond,
> goldfish and misc aquarium groups don't you? What's your motive Roy
> Tristan, for destroying all those other groups.

I am not a troll, Finzeo. You however, are a ****chop.

> You even invaded the rose group to get to your victim Gail.

My parents had sex. Isn't that the way it happens?

> If we all move here will you let us post in peace and stop calling the
> women sluts and whores and telling the disabled to commit suicide as
> you did Ed Alston?

I did? Where, allegedly, Finzeo?

> >.

You shouldn't bring your baby into the pool without a diaper.

> >.

Yeah, and what isn't?

> "Tristan" > wrote in message
> .

How long have you been driving a cab?

--
WE.........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================

Finzeo
February 8th 07, 05:00 AM
>wrote:

> Unlawfully-begotten piece-of-skirt with wide jack nastyface and
> sawed-off yubs would die for putrefied flesh bat for brutal sexual
> intercourse. Mail me at >

Carol Gulley
February 8th 07, 06:27 AM
Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:

> Flaunting garden-tool-mama with satiny beef curtain and laid up
> grapefruits hungers for full-bodied whisker slitter for rough arse
> ****. Mail me at <none available>

Carol Gulley
February 8th 07, 06:27 AM
>wrote:

> >wrote:.

It's like a dog-eat-dog world that we don't live in.

> No. Today is my 1st day on paxil.

Note to self: Do not respond.

> >.

It's your mind I like. Say something smart.

> Yes, I'm still seeing the sex therapist.

How entlightening, Finzeo.

--
WE.........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================

Fisher Piston
February 8th 07, 06:49 AM
>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>> Here ~Roy admits he has and will use Hipcrime.

> "~Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Lone Gunman
>>
>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>
>>
>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>> Just Roy

"Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> > I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other
> > posters.
>
> Don't kill yourself.
>
> > Why is that Roy Tristan? What makes this group and it's members immune
> > from your attacks and trolling? You realize you've destroyed the pond,
> > goldfish and misc aquarium groups don't you? What's your motive Roy
> > Tristan, for destroying all those other groups.
>
> I am not a troll, Finzeo. You however, are a ****chop.
>
> > You even invaded the rose group to get to your victim Gail.
>
> My parents had sex. Isn't that the way it happens?
>
> > If we all move here will you let us post in peace and stop calling the
> > women sluts and whores and telling the disabled to commit suicide as
> > you did Ed Alston?
>
> I did? Where, allegedly, Finzeo?
>
> > >.
>
> You shouldn't bring your baby into the pool without a diaper.
>
> > >.
>
> Yeah, and what isn't?
>
> > "Tristan" > wrote in message
> > .
>
> How long have you been driving a cab?
>
> --
> WE.........
> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
> ================================

Fezz
February 8th 07, 06:50 AM
>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>> Here ~Roy admits he has and will use Hipcrime.

> "~Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Lone Gunman
>>
>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>
>>
>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>> Just Roy

"Carol Gulley" <n0ne available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:
>
> > Flaunting garden-tool-mama with satiny beef curtain and laid up
> > grapefruits hungers for full-bodied whisker slitter for rough arse
> > ****. Mail me at <none available>

Fezz
February 8th 07, 06:51 AM
>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>> Here ~Roy "Tristan" Hauer admits he has and will use Hipcrime.

> "~Roy" TRISTAN > wrote in message
> ...
>> Lone Gunman
>>
>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>
>>
>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>> Just Roy

"Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> > >wrote:.
>
> It's like a dog-eat-dog world that we don't live in.
>
> > No. Today is my 1st day on paxil.
>
> Note to self: Do not respond.
>
> > >.
>
> It's your mind I like. Say something smart.
>
> > Yes, I'm still seeing the sex therapist.
>
> How entlightening, Finzeo.
>
> --
> WE.........
> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
> ================================

Köi-Lö
February 8th 07, 07:06 AM
>wrote:

>>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

Lying ****ing ****.

>
>>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>>> Here ~Roy admits he has and will use Hipcrime.
>
>> "~Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Lone Gunman
>>>
>>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>>
>>>
>>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>>> Just Roy
>
> "Carol Gulley" <n0ne available> wrote in message
> eatnowhere.com...
>> Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:
>>
>>> Flaunting garden-tool-mama with satiny beef curtain and laid up
>>> grapefruits hungers for full-bodied whisker slitter for rough arse
>>> ****. Mail me at <none available>


--
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Köi-Lö
February 8th 07, 07:07 AM
Fisher >wrote:

>>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

Liar.

>
>>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>>> Here ~Roy admits he has and will use Hipcrime.
>
>> "~Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Lone Gunman
>>>
>>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>>
>>>
>>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>>> Just Roy
>
> "Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
> eatnowhere.com...
>> >wrote:
>>
>>> I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other
>>> posters.
>>
>> Don't kill yourself.
>>
>>> Why is that Roy Tristan? What makes this group and it's members immune
>>> from your attacks and trolling? You realize you've destroyed the pond,
>>> goldfish and misc aquarium groups don't you? What's your motive Roy
>>> Tristan, for destroying all those other groups.
>>
>> I am not a troll, Finzeo. You however, are a ****chop.
>>
>>> You even invaded the rose group to get to your victim Gail.
>>
>> My parents had sex. Isn't that the way it happens?
>>
>>> If we all move here will you let us post in peace and stop calling the
>>> women sluts and whores and telling the disabled to commit suicide as
>>> you did Ed Alston?
>>
>> I did? Where, allegedly, Finzeo?
>>
>>> >.
>>
>> You shouldn't bring your baby into the pool without a diaper.
>>
>>> >.
>>
>> Yeah, and what isn't?
>>
>>> "Tristan" > wrote in message
>>> .
>>
>> How long have you been driving a cab?
>>
>> --
>> WE.........
>> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
>> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
>> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
>> ================================


--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
I do not post from Earthlink.net
All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
name are by my impersonator.
~~~~ <((((*> ~~~ <{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>}

Köi-Lö
February 8th 07, 07:08 AM
>wrote:

>>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:

****.

>
>>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
>>> Here ~Roy "Tristan" Hauer admits he has and will use Hipcrime.
>
>> "~Roy" TRISTAN > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Lone Gunman
>>>
>>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
>>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
>>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
>>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
>>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
>>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
>>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
>>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
>>>
>>>
>>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
>>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
>>> Just Roy
>
> "Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
> eatnowhere.com...
>> >wrote:
>>
>>> >wrote:.
>>
>> It's like a dog-eat-dog world that we don't live in.
>>
>>> No. Today is my 1st day on paxil.
>>
>> Note to self: Do not respond.
>>
>>> >.
>>
>> It's your mind I like. Say something smart.
>>
>>> Yes, I'm still seeing the sex therapist.
>>
>> How entlightening, Finzeo.
>>
>> --
>> WE.........
>> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
>> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
>> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
>> ================================


--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
I do not post from Earthlink.net
All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
name are by my impersonator.
~~~~ <((((*> ~~~ <{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>}

Carol Gulley
February 8th 07, 07:08 AM
Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:

> Tearful window-girl with ghoulish banana box and stark jumbos wants to
> meet pulsating great pyramid for dynamic horizontal exercises. Mail me
> at <none available>

Carol Gulley
February 8th 07, 07:08 AM
Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:

> Tortuous princess-of-the-pavement with wringing-wet peeper and
> disjointed glad bags goes hungry for inferior pussy poker for gung ho
> acts of darkness. Mail me at <none available>

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:17 AM
"Köi-Lö" <¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> >>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:
>
> Lying ****ing ****.

So you forged the headers? What's a ****? Is that something you net stalkers
use to terrorize their victims with?

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:17 AM
Don't you ever sleep?

"Carol Gulley" <n0ne available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:
>
> > Flaunting garden-tool-mama with satiny beef curtain and laid up
> > grapefruits hungers for full-bodied whisker slitter for rough arse
> > ****. Mail me at <none available>

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:19 AM
"Köi-Lö" <¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> Fisher >wrote:
>
> >>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:
>
> Liar.

So you forged them? Your forgeries suck.
Is that something you net stalkers use to terrorize their victims with? No
paradise for you nit brain.

> >
> >>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
> >>> Here ~Roy admits he has and will use Hipcrime.
> >
> >> "~Roy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Lone Gunman
> >>>

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:19 AM
You can't do better than this?

"Finzeo" > wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> > Unlawfully-begotten piece-of-skirt with wide jack nastyface and
> > sawed-off yubs would die for putrefied flesh bat for brutal sexual
> > intercourse. Mail me at >

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:20 AM
"Köi-Lö" <¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> >>> How Roy TRISTAN Hauer illegally forges victim's headers:
>
> ****.

So you forged the headers? What's a ****? Is that something you net stalkers
use to terrorize their victims with? How about getting some new original
material? You're a bore.

>
> >
> >>> http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html
> >>> Here ~Roy "Tristan" Hauer admits he has and will use Hipcrime.
> >
> >> "~Roy" TRISTAN > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Lone Gunman
> >>>
> >>> Funny thing that you mentioned the usenet ab(user) tool Hipcrime. I
> >>> have a copy of hipcrime for some time now and never installed it as I
> >>> liked the way Agent worked. I just may have togo and install that dll
> >>> library and hipcrime and see exactly what it can do. I remember
> >>> something about yur able to make groups as well as delete groups, but
> >>> I may be wrong on that aspect, but I do rememeber its good for
> >>> manipulating posts......but back then I had no need, now I have a
> >>> mission so perhaps now there is a need......
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> \Thanks for jogging my memory with the name hipcrime. I knew I seen it
> >>> somewhere around my software here, and totlaly forgot it.
> >>> Just Roy
> >
> > "Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
> > eatnowhere.com...
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> >wrote:.
> >>
> >> It's like a dog-eat-dog world that we don't live in.
> >>
> >>> No. Today is my 1st day on paxil.
> >>
> >> Note to self: Do not respond.
> >>
> >>> >.
> >>
> >> It's your mind I like. Say something smart.
> >>
> >>> Yes, I'm still seeing the sex therapist.
> >>
> >> How entlightening, Finzeo.
> >>
> >> --
> >> WE.........
> >> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
> >> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
> >> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
> >> ================================
>
>
> --
> Koi-Lo....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> Aquariums since 1952.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> I do not post from Earthlink.net
> All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
> name are by my impersonator.
> ~~~~ <((((*> ~~~ <{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>}

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:21 AM
You're a bore. Get some new stints......

"Carol Gulley" <n0ne available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> Carol Gulley<none available>wrote:
>
> > Tearful window-girl with ghoulish banana box and stark jumbos wants to
> > meet pulsating great pyramid for dynamic horizontal exercises. Mail me
> > at <none available>

Fezz
February 8th 07, 07:33 AM
Get some new material will you.... you're a crashing repetitious
unimaginative ignorant bore. Your forged headers suck and don't even fool
green newbies anymore.

"Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
eatnowhere.com...
> >wrote:
>
> > I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other
> > posters.
>
> Don't kill yourself.
>

Tristan
February 12th 07, 05:04 PM
"Carol Gulley" <none available> wrote in message
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> >wrote:
>
> > I see you don't trash this group with personal attacks on other
> > posters.

Well I have youy beat in the years department sucker and folks are
still responding to me every day, and I am not counting my socks
either. If it was not for folks trying to get me to see the light or
my socks I wuld not have any replies....face it.

Oh, I claim those socks as dependants on my income tax....
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>
> Don't kill yourself.
>
> > Why is that Roy Tristan? What makes this group and it's members immune
> > from your attacks and trolling? You realize you've destroyed the pond,
> > goldfish and misc aquarium groups don't you? What's your motive Roy
> > Tristan, for destroying all those other groups.
>
> I am not a troll, Finzeo. You however, are a ****chop.
>
> > You even invaded the rose group to get to your victim Gail.
>
> My parents had sex. Isn't that the way it happens?
>
> > If we all move here will you let us post in peace and stop calling the
> > women sluts and whores and telling the disabled to commit suicide as
> > you did Ed Alston?
>
> I did? Where, allegedly, Finzeo?
>
> > >.
>
> You shouldn't bring your baby into the pool without a diaper.
>
> > >.
>
> Yeah, and what isn't?
>
> > "Tristan" > wrote in message
> > .
>
> How long have you been driving a cab?
>
> --
> WE.........
> "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
> erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
> [Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
> ================================