painted fish research

[Don Freeman]

RE: tropical fish painting/dyeing.

I first heard of this practice from this group and I subsequently brought it
up on another group (a.f.u.) where it has been questioned as ever happening.
me response was this:

================[quote]=================
If it is a UL there are a lot of people and organizations that have bought
into it and a incredible amount of detailed information regarding it. Not
saying that makes it true but it certainly would make it the UL of the Year:

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/campaign_details.php
http://www.sydneycichlid.com/content/?page_id=10
http://www.firsttankguide.net/painted.php
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/paintedfish.htm

The photos of the fish are rather convincing, yet for all the hoopla over
this practice I can find no painted tropical fish for sale anywhere. I tend
to believe it may have been done but is not as widespread a practice as the
above sites (and others) would make one believe. Or maybe the practice was
much more prevalent and the uproar such as above helped curtail it.
===============[end-quote}===================

Any information on how this practice got started, how prevalent it is, and
who is still doing it would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Don Freeman
--
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

[muddyfox]

On 15 Feb, 23:43, "Don Freeman" > wrote:
> RE: tropical fish painting/dyeing.
>
> I first heard of this practice from this group and I subsequently brought it
> up on another group (a.f.u.) where it has been questioned as ever happening.
> me response was this:
>
> ================[quote]=================
> If it is a UL there are a lot of people and organizations that have bought
> into it and a incredible amount of detailed information regarding it. Not
> saying that makes it true but it certainly would make it the UL of the Year:
>
> http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/campaign_details.phphttp://www.sydneycichlid.com/content/?page_id=10http://www.firsttankguide.net/painted.phphttp://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/paintedfish.htm
>
> The photos of the fish are rather convincing, yet for all the hoopla over
> this practice I can find no painted tropical fish for sale anywhere. I tend
> to believe it may have been done but is not as widespread a practice as the
> above sites (and others) would make one believe. Or maybe the practice was
> much more prevalent and the uproar such as above helped curtail it.
> ===============[end-quote}===================
>
> Any information on how this practice got started, how prevalent it is, and
> who is still doing it would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Don Freeman
> --
> Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
> (Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

I saw dyed fish at one of my LFS's last year. (In SE England) The
shop was newly started up
and has now folded. But the practise definately exists. Reading in
Practical Fishkeeping Magazine
about how it's done made me shudder - it's extreamly cruel. I
wouldn't buy anything from
any shop selling dyed fish.

All the very best,

Muddy

[Mariachi]

I have seen this in Hong Kong. At the Goldfish Market (def worth a
look!) I saw white fish with bright pink and blue checked markings
drawn on it. Some with Chinese new year greetings painted on. I have
heard there's places in Hong Kong where you can get your companies
Logo/name injected into the fish so you can have fish in your foyer
that's...'customised'..

so so so wrong...

[Mariachi]

here some more informaiton:

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=850

and a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKWu3qPQro

[Tynk]

On Feb 15, 5:43�pm, "Don Freeman" > wrote:
> RE: tropical fish painting/dyeing.
>
> I first heard of this practice from this group and I subsequently brought it
> up on another group (a.f.u.) where it has been questioned as ever happening.
> me response was this:
>
> ================[quote]=================
> If it is a UL there are a lot of people and organizations that have bought
> into it and a incredible amount of detailed information regarding it. *Not
> saying that makes it true but it certainly would make it the UL of the Year:
>
> http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/campaign_details.phphttp://www.sydneycichlid.com/content/?page_id=10http://www.firsttankguide.net/painted.phphttp://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/paintedfish.htm
>
> The photos of the fish are rather convincing, yet for all the hoopla over
> this practice I can find no painted tropical fish for sale anywhere. *I tend
> to believe it may have been done but is not as widespread a practice as the
> above sites (and others) would make one believe. *Or maybe the practice was
> much more prevalent and the uproar such as above helped curtail it.
> ===============[end-quote}===================
>
> Any information on how this practice got started, how prevalent it is, and
> who is still doing it would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Don Freeman
> --
> Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
> (Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)


The cruel practice of dying and injecting fish with dyes are very much
still happening. I see it all the time here in Illinois (USA).
I have begged the only "good" local shop around here that I'll even go
into anymore and he won't stop. They're one of his biggest money
makers. Isn't that so sad! He can barely keep going because of the
chain stores, so he sees it as a must sell situation. He doesn't agree
with the process, but this shop is his lively hood. He did, however,
stop selling puppies a long time ago. I was very happy about that.
I see the dyed and injected fish in the chain stores as well. PetLand
is a biggy, Meijer stores, Wal-Mart's, Some PetCo's too.

[Tristan]

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"Tynk" > wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 5:43?pm, "Don Freeman" > wrote:
> RE: tropical fish painting/dyeing.
>
> I first heard of this practice from this group and I subsequently brought
it
> up on another group (a.f.u.) where it has been questioned as ever
happening.
> me response was this:
>
> ================[quote]=================
> If it is a UL there are a lot of people and organizations that have bought
> into it and a incredible amount of detailed information regarding it. Not
> saying that makes it true but it certainly would make it the UL of the
Year:
>
>
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/campaign_details.phphttp://www.sydneycichlid.com/content/?page_id=10http://www.firsttankguide.net/painte
d.phphttp://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/paintedfish.htm
>
> The photos of the fish are rather convincing, yet for all the hoopla over
> this practice I can find no painted tropical fish for sale anywhere. I
tend
> to believe it may have been done but is not as widespread a practice as
the
> above sites (and others) would make one believe. Or maybe the practice was
> much more prevalent and the uproar such as above helped curtail it.
> ===============[end-quote}===================
>
> Any information on how this practice got started, how prevalent it is, and
> who is still doing it would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Don Freeman
> --
> Ever had one of those days where you just felt
like:http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html?
> (Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)


The cruel practice of dying and injecting fish with dyes are very much
still happening. I see it all the time here in Illinois (USA).
I have begged the only "good" local shop around here that I'll even go
into anymore and he won't stop. They're one of his biggest money
makers. Isn't that so sad! He can barely keep going because of the
chain stores, so he sees it as a must sell situation. He doesn't agree
with the process, but this shop is his lively hood. He did, however,
stop selling puppies a long time ago. I was very happy about that.
I see the dyed and injected fish in the chain stores as well. PetLand
is a biggy, Meijer stores, Wal-Mart's, Some PetCo's too.

[swarvegorilla]

Go to asia
it's big money!
I seen them tattoo a dragon fish before
remember thinking
what if it loses those scales
was a big fish too!
generally tho it's just barbs and stuff
Have to admit the tic tac toe games kinda looked funky
but yea cruel and evil or something
now everyone go back to their bottem trawled McFish burger
tis a crazy world
and painted fish (as opposed to injected.... or yea not opposed but...) are
really small fish
ya want a concern?
try the fact many Asian countrys are now fishing their rivers dry with
electric prods
very full on




"Don Freeman" > wrote in message
...
> RE: tropical fish painting/dyeing.
>
> I first heard of this practice from this group and I subsequently brought
> it up on another group (a.f.u.) where it has been questioned as ever
> happening. me response was this:
>
> ================[quote]=================
> If it is a UL there are a lot of people and organizations that have bought
> into it and a incredible amount of detailed information regarding it. Not
> saying that makes it true but it certainly would make it the UL of the
> Year:
>
> http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/campaign_details.php
> http://www.sydneycichlid.com/content/?page_id=10
> http://www.firsttankguide.net/painted.php
> http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/paintedfish.htm
>
> The photos of the fish are rather convincing, yet for all the hoopla over
> this practice I can find no painted tropical fish for sale anywhere. I
> tend
> to believe it may have been done but is not as widespread a practice as
> the
> above sites (and others) would make one believe. Or maybe the practice
> was
> much more prevalent and the uproar such as above helped curtail it.
> ===============[end-quote}===================
>
> Any information on how this practice got started, how prevalent it is, and
> who is still doing it would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Don Freeman
> --
> Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
> http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
> (Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)
>