Concerned Aquaria Group Members
February 18th 07, 06:54 PM
"Tristan" > wrote in message
...
[REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Stalking. False Accusations.
Disruption Of Group. Further attempts to intrude on conversations will
result in summary deletion of all your posts, unread, for
a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Signs of
Homocidal Obsession With Victim.
> What does owning a fish tank or pond have to do withthe price of tea
> in china CArol. There is a mod who does not have koi or a pond with
> anyhtin gother than frogs in it. Everyone has to start somewhere and
> who the hellare you to say that so called person may not osmeday get
> themself a tank or pond........stranger things have happend, look at
> you found hubby number 5 , you manage to scrape by with insinuations
> and slanderous remarks without someone knocking yur head off.......so
> heys its possible this person can really get a pond or fish tank. Why
> do you feel the propensity to play god and dictate what others do or
> don;t in regards to what yu want them to do...Your a freaking
> hipocrite carol.....plain and simple. A babbling idiotic hipocrite
> free of any scruples and morales of any kind.
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:59:25 -0600, Zëbulon >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>
> <<>>"Galen Hekhuis" > wrote in message
> ...
> <<>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:39:30 -0600, Zëbulon >
> <<>>> wrote:
> <<>>>
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>"Galen Hekhuis" > wrote in message
> ...
> <<>>>><brevity snip>
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>> It may become a problem, I can see lots of potentials. People
> might
> <<>>>>> try to game the timezones to avoid a particular moderator.
> Like
> <<>>>>> you say, if requests are allowed some moderators might squawk at
> being
> <<>>>>> overburdened or virtually ignored. Perhaps some form of banning
> may
> <<>>>>> be necessary, but I hope not.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>Banning those who constantly post profanity/smutty posts and
> degrading
> <<>>>>personal attacks on others should be done. Those kinds of posts are
> a turn
> <<>>>>off to any moderator and they shouldn't have to be exposed to them.
> They
> <<>>>>cause bad vibes and negativity.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>Many things are trivial to change, I've
> <<>>>>> been able to change my IP at will over the past few weeks. There
> just
> <<>>>>> isn't much to work with in header information, and I think more
> and
> <<>>>>> more folks will find it easier and easier to screw with header
> <<>>>>> information as time goes on. It's pretty hard to disguise your
> text
> <<>>>>> and still get a message across.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>THERE YOU GO! That's just what I told Gill and Jan and a few people
> from
> <<>>>>the aquarium groups when they wanted me to try and come back with a
> new
> <<>>>>nym
> <<>>>>and persona to stop the troll attacks. It seems others here were
> ether
> <<>>>>forced off the group or had to resort to this trickery because of
> the SAME
> <<>>>>person/troll personally attacking them. You cannot disguise
> yourself
> <<>>>>forever. The mods on the other hand are going to have to learn how
> to
> <<>>>>spot
> <<>>>>forged headers. As Roy recently found out, the messages I've been
> accused
> <<>>>>of sending are not from my account.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>You are dealing with shrewd, experienced, obsessed "mission" trolls
> here
> <<>>>>as
> <<>>>>Jayne called them Galen, and they have no intention of letting this
> go
> <<>>>>because of a moderated group.
> <<>>==============================
> <<>>> On the one hand you suggest banning certain posters,
> <<>>
> <<>>There are posters on this group just here to troll. One doesn't even
> own a
> <<>>pond or fishtank. He's never posted even one on-topic message since
> he came
> <<>>to this group.
> <<>>
> <<>>and then in the
> <<>>> next paragraph you argue against the very using the very same
> <<>>> characteristics used to identify certain posters.
> <<>>
> <<>>Ok, you lost me here. I've been on this group since 1996 and have both
> ponds
> <<>>and fish tanks. Until the troll invasion virtually all my posts were
> <<>>on-topic. I seldom even read the off-topic threads.
> <<>>
> <<>>Banning simply
> <<>>> requires faith in using header information to determine identity. I
> <<>>> don't have such faith, the information is too easily forged/changed.
> <<>>
> <<>>This is true. I didn't think of that.
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
...
[REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Stalking. False Accusations.
Disruption Of Group. Further attempts to intrude on conversations will
result in summary deletion of all your posts, unread, for
a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Signs of
Homocidal Obsession With Victim.
> What does owning a fish tank or pond have to do withthe price of tea
> in china CArol. There is a mod who does not have koi or a pond with
> anyhtin gother than frogs in it. Everyone has to start somewhere and
> who the hellare you to say that so called person may not osmeday get
> themself a tank or pond........stranger things have happend, look at
> you found hubby number 5 , you manage to scrape by with insinuations
> and slanderous remarks without someone knocking yur head off.......so
> heys its possible this person can really get a pond or fish tank. Why
> do you feel the propensity to play god and dictate what others do or
> don;t in regards to what yu want them to do...Your a freaking
> hipocrite carol.....plain and simple. A babbling idiotic hipocrite
> free of any scruples and morales of any kind.
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:59:25 -0600, Zëbulon >
> wrote:
>
> <<>>
> <<>>"Galen Hekhuis" > wrote in message
> ...
> <<>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:39:30 -0600, Zëbulon >
> <<>>> wrote:
> <<>>>
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>"Galen Hekhuis" > wrote in message
> ...
> <<>>>><brevity snip>
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>> It may become a problem, I can see lots of potentials. People
> might
> <<>>>>> try to game the timezones to avoid a particular moderator.
> Like
> <<>>>>> you say, if requests are allowed some moderators might squawk at
> being
> <<>>>>> overburdened or virtually ignored. Perhaps some form of banning
> may
> <<>>>>> be necessary, but I hope not.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>Banning those who constantly post profanity/smutty posts and
> degrading
> <<>>>>personal attacks on others should be done. Those kinds of posts are
> a turn
> <<>>>>off to any moderator and they shouldn't have to be exposed to them.
> They
> <<>>>>cause bad vibes and negativity.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>Many things are trivial to change, I've
> <<>>>>> been able to change my IP at will over the past few weeks. There
> just
> <<>>>>> isn't much to work with in header information, and I think more
> and
> <<>>>>> more folks will find it easier and easier to screw with header
> <<>>>>> information as time goes on. It's pretty hard to disguise your
> text
> <<>>>>> and still get a message across.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>THERE YOU GO! That's just what I told Gill and Jan and a few people
> from
> <<>>>>the aquarium groups when they wanted me to try and come back with a
> new
> <<>>>>nym
> <<>>>>and persona to stop the troll attacks. It seems others here were
> ether
> <<>>>>forced off the group or had to resort to this trickery because of
> the SAME
> <<>>>>person/troll personally attacking them. You cannot disguise
> yourself
> <<>>>>forever. The mods on the other hand are going to have to learn how
> to
> <<>>>>spot
> <<>>>>forged headers. As Roy recently found out, the messages I've been
> accused
> <<>>>>of sending are not from my account.
> <<>>>>
> <<>>>>You are dealing with shrewd, experienced, obsessed "mission" trolls
> here
> <<>>>>as
> <<>>>>Jayne called them Galen, and they have no intention of letting this
> go
> <<>>>>because of a moderated group.
> <<>>==============================
> <<>>> On the one hand you suggest banning certain posters,
> <<>>
> <<>>There are posters on this group just here to troll. One doesn't even
> own a
> <<>>pond or fishtank. He's never posted even one on-topic message since
> he came
> <<>>to this group.
> <<>>
> <<>>and then in the
> <<>>> next paragraph you argue against the very using the very same
> <<>>> characteristics used to identify certain posters.
> <<>>
> <<>>Ok, you lost me here. I've been on this group since 1996 and have both
> ponds
> <<>>and fish tanks. Until the troll invasion virtually all my posts were
> <<>>on-topic. I seldom even read the off-topic threads.
> <<>>
> <<>>Banning simply
> <<>>> requires faith in using header information to determine identity. I
> <<>>> don't have such faith, the information is too easily forged/changed.
> <<>>
> <<>>This is true. I didn't think of that.
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!