Re: From those wishing to reclaim our rights to post on our fishand pond groups without disruption or games

[Gill Passman]

Gill Passman wrote:
> Re: Read me--AQUARIA GROUPS INFORMATION NOTE--Read me.
>
>
> AQUARIA GROUPS INFO
> There is a resident troll whose user name changes so frequently there
> is no need to even mention it. Please do not be afraid to ask any
> questions or leave any comments you feel are needed, but above all for
> your own good and the fish's, ensure who you get information from is
> from a valid safe and reasonable source. The individuals listed below
> are more than willing to help and provide proper information or
> point you to a resource that can.
>
> Below is a list of real folks concerned for the fishes care and more
> than willing to help in any way they can. Since this resident troll
> will take on any other members user name in an attempt to confuse and
> add turmoil to the group, check the header or email address to ensure
> your nor dealing with the resident troll.
>
> While every effort has been made to make this an up to date list there
> are more and more concerned and helpfull folks asking to be added
> every week, and as they come on board they will be added. It is
> adviseable to only take info, espeically for health related fish
> issues or before spending $$$$ to use the folks listed on this info
> memo. The moderated group is temporarily at a setback which we hope
> to overcome ASAP, so we need to try and make the best of a bad
> situation in this group as possible.
>
> Regards
> Concerned Folks of the Aquaria Groups
>
> JanJ Remove "nospam"
> Ponds, Plants and Koi/ Goldfish
>
> Gill Remove "nospamat"
> Aquar Fish and Plants and Fish in general
>
> Dr. Solo (Ingrid) Remove "xx"
> Fish in General mainly Goldies and Koi and ponds
>
> Tristan tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>
> TYNK TYNK7ATaol.com
> Aquarium Fish and Fish in General
>
> Galen <ghekhuisATearthlink.net>
> Ponds and pond fish in General as well as an up to date link on
> moderated forum status.
>
> Remove the "spam trap" AT and use @ in all other email addys.
>
> Please give these individuals some time to reply as they all have a
> life beyond USENET, unlike the resident troll who dedicates 24/7 to
> trashing and troll the aquaria groups.
>
>
> Oh and by the way, each of these individuals have a perfectly fine
> functioning email address if you want further proof they are genuine
> in their intents and purposes to have a group free of turmoil and
> trolls. The ISP's addresses and servers mainly connected with the
> resident troll is Bellsouth.net and Shared-secrets. Email addys are
> usually a vindictive form of one of the above named email addy, and
> often times simply .
>
> If you desire to kill filter anyone kill filter on email address for
> most effective filter use, since a lot of user names are stolen in an
> attempt to discredit this post.
>
> Thanks
>
> Please feel free to respond with email or another post, but please
> start another thread as no replies attached to this memo post will be
> acknowledged. Our goal is to make this and the other aquaria groups a
> useable means of information to all.
>

[Zebulon]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...

Tristan aka "Roy Hauer." tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish

This one has changed his name several times in the past few days. He has a
history of nym-shifting and using other people's nyms going back 2 years.
He is also the one posting endless insulting slanderous messages. In the
past month he's net-stalked (followed to other groups to degrade and insult)
Gail, Futeron, Tara Legale and myself. I advise anyone contacting his
individual to use extreme caution.

I added other groups so they too can know to be cautious.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll free pond and fish Forum:
http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=104
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[Zebulon]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Gill Passman wrote:
>> Re: Read me--AQUARIA GROUPS INFORMATION NOTE--Read me.
>>
>>
>> AQUARIA GROUPS INFO
>> There is a resident troll whose user name changes so frequently there
>> is no need to even mention it........
===================
And here's the proof! posts as "Tristan" and
"Zebulon" and "Concerned Aquaria Group Members" This is in the past few
days alone. His old NYM was "Roy." His nym shifting, personal attacks and
harassment of others and impersonating history goes back 2 years. This is
just two of who knows how many:

From: Concerned Aquaria Group Members {TRISTAN aka RoyHauer}
>
Newsgroups:
rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria. freshwater.goldfish
Subject: Read me--AQUARIA GROUPS INFORMATION NOTE--Read me.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:12:31 -0600
Organization: The ****er off of the Queen Bee {ADMITS TROLLING}
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And:

From: Zëbulon > {NYM SHIFTING & IMPERSONATING}
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Subject: MOve over CArol Gulley, there is a new Zëbulon in town.......
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:16:36 -0600
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--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll free pond and fish Forum:
http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=104
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[Tynk]

> > Re: Read me--AQUARIA GROUPS INFORMATION NOTE--Read me.
>
> > AQUARIA GROUPS INFO
> > There is a resident troll whose user name changes so frequently there
> > is no need to even mention it. Please do not be afraid to ask any
> > questions or leave any comments you feel are needed, but above all for
> > your own good and the fish's, ensure who you get information from is
> > from a valid safe and reasonable source. The individuals listed below
> > are more than willing to help and provide proper information or
> > point you to a resource that can.
>
> > Below is a list of real folks concerned for the fishes care and more
> > than willing to help in any way they can. Since this resident troll
> > will take on any other members user name in an attempt to confuse and
> > add turmoil to the group, check the header or email address to ensure
> > your nor dealing with the resident troll.
>
> > While every effort has been made to make this an up to date list there
> > are more and more concerned and helpfull folks asking to be added
> > every week, and as they come on board they will be added. It is
> > adviseable to only take info, espeically for health related fish
> > issues or before spending $$$$ to use the folks listed on this info
> > memo. The moderated group is temporarily at a setback which we hope
> > to overcome ASAP, so we need to try and make the best of a bad
> > situation in this group as possible.
>
> > Regards
> > Concerned Folks of the Aquaria Groups
>
> > JanJ Remove "nospam"
> > Ponds, Plants and Koi/ Goldfish
>
> > Gill Remove "nospamat"
> > Aquar Fish and Plants and Fish in general
>
> > Dr. Solo (Ingrid) Remove "xx"
> > Fish in General mainly Goldies and Koi and ponds
>
> > Tristan tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
> > Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>
> > TYNK TYNK7ATaol.com
> > Aquarium Fish and Fish in General
>
> > Galen <ghekhuisATearthlink.net>
> > Ponds and pond fish in General as well as an up to date link on
> > moderated forum status.
>
> > Remove the "spam trap" AT and use @ in all other email addys.
>
> > Please give these individuals some time to reply as they all have a
> > life beyond USENET, unlike the resident troll who dedicates 24/7 to
> > trashing and troll the aquaria groups.
>
> > Oh and by the way, each of these individuals have a perfectly fine
> > functioning email address if you want further proof they are genuine
> > in their intents and purposes to have a group free of turmoil and
> > trolls. The ISP's addresses and servers mainly connected with the
> > resident troll is Bellsouth.net and Shared-secrets. Email addys are
> > usually a vindictive form of one of the above named email addy, and
> > often times simply .
>
> > If you desire to kill filter anyone kill filter on email address for
> > most effective filter use, since a lot of user names are stolen in an
> > attempt to discredit this post.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Please feel free to respond with email or another post, but please
> > start another thread as no replies attached to this memo post will be
> > acknowledged. Our goal is to make this and the other aquaria groups a
> > useable means of information to all

It's a great thing!
I'm all for it.

[Gill Passman]

Zëbulon wrote:
>
> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Tristan aka "Roy Hauer." tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>
> This one has changed his name several times in the past few days. He has
> a history of nym-shifting and using other people's nyms going back 2
> years. He is also the one posting endless insulting slanderous messages.
> In the past month he's net-stalked (followed to other groups to degrade
> and insult) Gail, Futeron, Tara Legale and myself. I advise anyone
> contacting his individual to use extreme caution.
>
> I added other groups so they too can know to be cautious.

Yawn....yet another attempt to edit a post to make it appear someone is
saying something that they are not......anyone wants to check the real
stuff I say check the google archives.....everything I have ever posted
on Usenet is archived there.....

[Dave Doe]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Gill Passman wrote:
> >> Re: Read me--AQUARIA GROUPS INFORMATION NOTE--Read me.
> >>
> >>
> >> AQUARIA GROUPS INFO
> >> There is a resident troll whose user name changes so frequently there
> >> is no need to even mention it........
> ===================
> And here's the proof! posts as "Tristan" and
> "Zebulon" and "Concerned Aquaria Group Members" This is in the past few
> days alone. His old NYM was "Roy." His nym shifting, personal attacks and
> harassment of others and impersonating history goes back 2 years. This is
> just two of who knows how many:

Yep, but hey please heed some advice which I think is good. Don't feed
the troll. Don't reply. I'm just bozo binning new nicks as I see, and
the group is free from rubbish (except replies - and um, eg like yours
:).

--
Duncan

[Zebulon]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Zëbulon wrote:
>>
>> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Tristan aka "Roy Hauer." tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
>> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>>
>> This one has changed his name several times in the past few days. He has
>> a history of nym-shifting and using other people's nyms going back 2
>> years. He is also the one posting endless insulting slanderous messages.
>> In the past month he's net-stalked (followed to other groups to degrade
>> and insult) Gail, Futeron, Tara Legale and myself. I advise anyone
>> contacting his individual to use extreme caution.
>>
>> I added other groups so they too can know to be cautious.

---------------------
> Yawn....yet another attempt to edit a post to make it appear someone is
> saying something that they are not......

I did not "edit" the post. It's called a "brevity snip" and has been
explained to you before. Some NSPs do not allow "total quoted" lines
reposted. Please find out before accusing.

anyone wants to check the real
> stuff I say check the google archives.....everything I have ever posted on
> Usenet is archived there.....


--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll free pond and fish Forum:
http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=104
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[Zebulon]

"Dave Doe" > wrote in message
. nz...
> In article >, <BREVITY
> SNIP>
>> And here's the proof! posts as "Tristan" and
>> "Zebulon" and "Concerned Aquaria Group Members" This is in the past few
>> days alone. His old NYM was "Roy." His nym shifting, personal attacks
>> and
>> harassment of others and impersonating history goes back 2 years. This
>> is
>> just two of who knows how many:
==================
> Yep, but hey please heed some advice which I think is good. Don't feed
> the troll. Don't reply. I'm just bozo binning new nicks as I see, and
> the group is free from rubbish (except replies - and um, eg like yours
> :).
>
> --
> Duncan
==========================
Hi! I guess I replied (with proof) because I'm tired of being accused of
being behind every new NYM that shows up here. I'm being attacked from all
ends and some people are believing anything and everything they're being
told, no one bothers to ask for proof, no one checks. Oh well, which group
are you posting from?
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[Kill Joy]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Gill Passman wrote:
>>
>> Below is a list of real folks concerned for the fishes care and more
>> than willing to help in any way they can. >> Regards
>> Concerned Folks of the Aquaria Groups
>>
>>
>> Tristan tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
>> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish

What people say about the highly recommended Tristan:

"TheRock" > wrote in message
news:pNNCh.4004$_O1.512@trndny04...
> Yeah but it's fun to see what a lunatic this person is.
> One day plays nice with others, the next day...They're limpids you *******
> !!!
>
> The nice Tristin
> "Ok, I know ghost shrimp can and do live in sal****er. So what would be
> a good way to acclimate a large bunch of them ..."
>
> The evil Tristin
> Sure you can if you like wading through crap....your a pice of ****
> anyhow, you ought to feel right at home real soon!
>
> Please somebody tell me I'm wrong...It's scary to know
> we let people like this roam the streets.

[Duck Dodgers]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:22:20 -0600, Gill Passman
> wrote:

> Zëbulon wrote:
>> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> Tristan aka "Roy Hauer." tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
>> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>> This one has changed his name several times in the past few days. He
>> has a history of nym-shifting and using other people's nyms going back
>> 2 years. He is also the one posting endless insulting slanderous
>> messages. In the past month he's net-stalked (followed to other groups
>> to degrade and insult) Gail, Futeron, Tara Legale and myself. I advise
>> anyone contacting his individual to use extreme caution.
>> I added other groups so they too can know to be cautious.
>
> Yawn....yet another attempt to edit a post to make it appear someone is
> saying something that they are not......anyone wants to check the real
> stuff I say check the google archives.....everything I have ever posted
> on Usenet is archived there.....



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[HANÑÎBAL]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:35:02 -0600, Duck Dodgers >
wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:22:20 -0600, Gill Passman
> > wrote:
>
>> Zëbulon wrote:
>>> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> Tristan aka "Roy Hauer." tristansaintjohnATyahoo.com
>>> Mud Ponds and Pond fish and Marine fish
>>> This one has changed his name several times in the past few days. He
>>> has a history of nym-shifting and using other people's nyms going back
>>> 2 years. He is also the one posting endless insulting slanderous
>>> messages. In the past month he's net-stalked (followed to other groups
>>> to degrade and insult) Gail, Futeron, Tara Legale and myself. I
>>> advise anyone contacting his individual to use extreme caution.
>>> I added other groups so they too can know to be cautious.
>>
>> Yawn....yet another attempt to edit a post to make it appear someone is
>> saying something that they are not......anyone wants to check the real
>> stuff I say check the google archives.....everything I have ever posted
>> on Usenet is archived there.....
>
>
>
I found a quiet moment


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