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Tristin
February 27th 07, 05:23 PM
Well its nice to think on putting them alltogetheirna larger tank,
however those tiny ones will be large in short order, and to be
perfectly honest, goldifish really need to be kept outdoors or in a
tank much larger than a 55 gal setup. The small ones ought to do just
fine with the larger as they are not agrressive....and any tendency
for th elarger to eat smaller was when those smaller fish were much
smaller than they are now....

Why not lookinto getting a small prform and set it up outside, to
house them allin. 3 goldies would do fine outside in a 90 or so gal
preform for a long time.....Don;t know what area / zone your in but
godies in general do just fine outdoors most everywhere as long as
pond doe snot freed completely, but that issue is easy enought to take
care of as well......I'm sure Dr. Solo will be around this group in
due time, and she is the goldie guru..........

That said, yes foks keep gf in indoor aquariums al the time.Can it be
done, yes,is it the best way, no, but in general larger is better in
terms of aquarium size and there is no such thing as two large for
goldies. They gropw fast and make a lot of ,mess, so a good oversized
filter system is also important. As is proper water changes. Lots of
luck, but if possible consider a preform outside for best results and
then fill those other tanks up with some nice smallish tropicals.

Regards



On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:40:41 -0500, wrote:

<<>>Hi:
<<>> My uncle just gave me 2 small aquariums. The first has a single
<<>>3-4 inch (body length only) goldfish in it that has always been alone.
<<>>(At least 1 year old.) Its just a plain orange one, with very long
<<>>tail fins.
<<>> The second has two very small goldfish, each about 1/2 to 3/4
<<>>inch long (body length only.) I'm not sure how old they are. They
<<>>look like they are a different species of goldfish. Just a little
<<>>orange, with small fins.
<<>>
<<>> I would like to buy one large 50 gallon aquarium and put all 3 of
<<>>them together.
<<>> My question is, is the big goldfish apt to go after/attack/kill
<<>>the two small fish? Like I said, he/she has always been alone, and is
<<>>much bigger than the 2 small ones.
<<>>
<<>>If I can't keep them together, I was thinking about getting another
<<>>3-4 inch goldfish to put in with the big one.
<<>> But again, my question would be, would the current fish attack
<<>>the new one, even though it was about the same size?
<<>>
<<>> I know very little about goldfish, but I've learned a lot in the
<<>>past 3-4 days about the care and feeding.
<<>> What I don't know about is the social patterns of goldfish,
<<>>especially one that has always been alone most/all of its life.
<<>>
<<>> Thanks a lot.
<<>> Dave



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristin
February 27th 07, 07:27 PM
Well rescueing any fish is better than flushing them. Fish are not
hard to keep, but the problem lies in that they are more than likely
common comet goldies, and they do get big relatively fast, and make
quite a mess and are not really suited to indoor tanks due to size and
water temps. I am pretty sure yur tanks yu have now would probbaly be
a good home for a tropical setup...which are more suiitable to indoor
living and very relaxing and rewarding to have.

Michigan weather is not an obstacle for most types of goldies, as long
as tey have a body of water that is unfrozen and has an air hole for
gasseous exchange they do just fine.....even if that body of water is
under 2 feet of ice. If that pond has bass or other types of predator
or game fins hinit odds are those goldies wil become a meal in short
order. Is there a pet shop that wold take them in if yur not wanting
to fool with them. Often times folks just gice em back to a pet shop,
or trade them for tropcial or other items.....just a thought. Just be
aware depending on the pond and its location an dits proximity to
rivers or streams it may or may not be legal to put goldies in it, so
thats just something to think about.Have fun and once again thanks for
not allowing them to be flushed......
Regards




On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:19:28 -0500, wrote:

<<>>On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:23:57 -0600, Tristin
> wrote:
<<>>
<<>>>Well its nice to think on putting them alltogetheirna larger tank,
<<>>>however those tiny ones will be large in short order, and to be
<<>>>perfectly honest, goldifish really need to be kept outdoors or in a
<<>>>tank much larger than a 55 gal setup. The small ones ought to do just
<<>>>fine with the larger as they are not agrressive....and any tendency
<<>>>for th elarger to eat smaller was when those smaller fish were much
<<>>>smaller than they are now....
<<>>>
<<>>>Why not lookinto getting a small prform and set it up outside, to
<<>>>house them allin. 3 goldies would do fine outside in a 90 or so gal
<<>>>preform for a long time.....Don;t know what area / zone your in but
<<>>>godies in general do just fine outdoors most everywhere as long as
<<>>>pond doe snot freed completely, but that issue is easy enought to take
<<>>>care of as well......I'm sure Dr. Solo will be around this group in
<<>>>due time, and she is the goldie guru..........
<<>>>
<<>>>That said, yes foks keep gf in indoor aquariums al the time.Can it be
<<>>>done, yes,is it the best way, no, but in general larger is better in
<<>>>terms of aquarium size and there is no such thing as two large for
<<>>>goldies. They gropw fast and make a lot of ,mess, so a good oversized
<<>>>filter system is also important. As is proper water changes. Lots of
<<>>>luck, but if possible consider a preform outside for best results and
<<>>>then fill those other tanks up with some nice smallish tropicals.
<<>>>
<<>>>Regards
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:40:41 -0500, wrote:
<<>>>
<<>>><<>>Hi:
<<>>><<>> My uncle just gave me 2 small aquariums. The first has a single
<<>>><<>>3-4 inch (body length only) goldfish in it that has always been alone.
<<>>><<>>(At least 1 year old.) Its just a plain orange one, with very long
<<>>><<>>tail fins.
<<>>><<>> The second has two very small goldfish, each about 1/2 to 3/4
<<>>><<>>inch long (body length only.) I'm not sure how old they are. They
<<>>><<>>look like they are a different species of goldfish. Just a little
<<>>><<>>orange, with small fins.
<<>>><<>>
<<>>><<>> I would like to buy one large 50 gallon aquarium and put all 3 of
<<>>><<>>them together.
<<>>><<>> My question is, is the big goldfish apt to go after/attack/kill
<<>>><<>>the two small fish? Like I said, he/she has always been alone, and is
<<>>><<>>much bigger than the 2 small ones.
<<>>><<>>
<<>>><<>>If I can't keep them together, I was thinking about getting another
<<>>><<>>3-4 inch goldfish to put in with the big one.
<<>>><<>> But again, my question would be, would the current fish attack
<<>>><<>>the new one, even though it was about the same size?
<<>>><<>>
<<>>><<>> I know very little about goldfish, but I've learned a lot in the
<<>>><<>>past 3-4 days about the care and feeding.
<<>>><<>> What I don't know about is the social patterns of goldfish,
<<>>><<>>especially one that has always been alone most/all of its life.
<<>>><<>>
<<>>><<>> Thanks a lot.
<<>>><<>> Dave
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>>-------
<<>>>I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
<<>>
<<>>Hi Tristan,
<<>> Thanks for your quick response. I'm completely out of my game
<<>>here. Never had fish before. I took them because my uncle was going
<<>>to flush them.
<<>> My neighbor has a big pond. Maybe I'll ask him this spring if I
<<>>can put the fish there. He has a bunch of fish in it already.
<<>>I live in Michigan. Very, very cold up here. Lots of snow & ice.
<<>>
<<>> Dave



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Reel McKoi
February 28th 07, 01:12 AM
> wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your quick response. I'm completely out of my game
> here. Never had fish before. I took them because my uncle was going
> to flush them.
> My neighbor has a big pond. Maybe I'll ask him this spring if I
> can put the fish there. He has a bunch of fish in it already.
> I live in Michigan. Very, very cold up here. Lots of snow & ice.
======================
They live very well indoors in fishtanks. That's how the really expensive
ones are kept. They can live as long as 15 years if well cared for.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Alpha
February 28th 07, 01:29 AM
"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks for your quick response. I'm completely out of my game
>> here. Never had fish before. I took them because my uncle was going
>> to flush them.
>> My neighbor has a big pond. Maybe I'll ask him this spring if I
>> can put the fish there. He has a bunch of fish in it already.
>> I live in Michigan. Very, very cold up here. Lots of snow & ice.
> ======================
> They live very well indoors in fishtanks. That's how the really expensive
> ones are kept. They can live as long as 15 years if well cared for.
> --
> RM....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> rec.ponder since late 1996.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
>
>

This is true. Ornamental goldfish do well indoors...much better than
outside.