tetra medicated food?

[Chris Palma]

Hi.

One more question -- Frank in alt.aquaria recommended medicated food to
me, and I've seen a few others make the same recommendation.
Unfortunately, I can't find it *anywhere*. Does anyone know of an on-line
vendor that carries medicated tropical fish food?

Thanks.

--chris

[NetMax]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
> Hi.
>
> One more question -- Frank in alt.aquaria recommended medicated food to
> me, and I've seen a few others make the same recommendation.
> Unfortunately, I can't find it *anywhere*. Does anyone know of an
on-line
> vendor that carries medicated tropical fish food?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --chris

You can google for medicated foods, but you will mostly find pond
suppliers or manufacturers you never heard of on auction sites.
Medicated foods are a great way to go, but perhaps you should make your
own. Preparing the foods is easy, determining the dosage is tricky. For
that, try sending an email to the manufacturer for their recommendations.

Regarding food preparation:
For dried foods, spread the amount you will feed over the duration of the
medicinal treatment in a shallow waterproof pan. Dissolve the medicine
(antibiotics) into the smallest amount of water which will both dissolve
the medicine and allow you to evenly spread it over the flake food. Then
allow the food to completely dry before using it.

For freeze-dried foods, simply soak the food in your antibiotic saturated
water and feed the fish their normal portions. You can start feeding
right away and let the remaining portions dry out.

For frozen foods, spread the food portion out and let it thaw. Without
disturbing the food, remove most of the excess water (ie: paper towel
gently placed on top). Then sprinkle your antibiotics over the foods.
Depending on the antibiotic, you might want to pre-dissolve it in a small
amount of water. Depending on the type of frozen food, you might want to
mix the food and solution together (ie: bloodworms), or not (beefheart).
Then serve and promptly re-freeze your future portions.

FWIW, I usually use the freeze dried tubifex worms for this, but others
have good success with flakes and pellets so ymmv. I guess my dosages
(my bad) and I haven't killed anything yet, but I should really contact
the manufacturer.
--
www.NetMax.tk

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|| Hi.
||
|| One more question -- Frank in alt.aquaria recommended medicated food
|| to me, and I've seen a few others make the same recommendation.
|| Unfortunately, I can't find it *anywhere*. Does anyone know of an
|| on-line vendor that carries medicated tropical fish food?
||
|| Thanks.
||
|| --chris

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is that better??

[Rick]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
> Hi.
>
> One more question -- Frank in alt.aquaria recommended medicated food to
> me, and I've seen a few others make the same recommendation.
> Unfortunately, I can't find it *anywhere*. Does anyone know of an on-line
> vendor that carries medicated tropical fish food?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --chris
>

if you find any of this food on the shelve at a LFS make sure that you check
the bottom of the container for an expiry date. One of the reasons that this
food is hard to find at commercial stores is that it does not sell fast
enough before the usefulness of the medication has expired. After the expiry
date all you are buying is very expensive food. Any container you have found
on a shelf that does not have an expiry sticker on it has likely been
removed by the vendor .

Rick

[Chris Palma]

Well, since two other posts have pointed out that this expires quickly and
is apparently not being made anymore, it looks like I'll be making my own!

Thanks for the step by step instructions.

One question -- what medicine would you recommend to help complete the
recovery from an apparent outbreak of gill flukes? I have treated the
aquarium with two doses of praziquantel (the active ingredient in the
fizzy tabs sold at my LFS) so far added directly to the aquarium.

--chris


On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, NetMax wrote:

> You can google for medicated foods, but you will mostly find pond
> suppliers or manufacturers you never heard of on auction sites.
> Medicated foods are a great way to go, but perhaps you should make your
> own. Preparing the foods is easy, determining the dosage is tricky. For
> that, try sending an email to the manufacturer for their recommendations.
>
> Regarding food preparation:
> For dried foods, spread the amount you will feed over the duration of the
> medicinal treatment in a shallow waterproof pan. Dissolve the medicine
> (antibiotics) into the smallest amount of water which will both dissolve
> the medicine and allow you to evenly spread it over the flake food. Then
> allow the food to completely dry before using it.
>
> For freeze-dried foods, simply soak the food in your antibiotic saturated
> water and feed the fish their normal portions. You can start feeding
> right away and let the remaining portions dry out.
>
> For frozen foods, spread the food portion out and let it thaw. Without
> disturbing the food, remove most of the excess water (ie: paper towel
> gently placed on top). Then sprinkle your antibiotics over the foods.
> Depending on the antibiotic, you might want to pre-dissolve it in a small
> amount of water. Depending on the type of frozen food, you might want to
> mix the food and solution together (ie: bloodworms), or not (beefheart).
> Then serve and promptly re-freeze your future portions.
>
> FWIW, I usually use the freeze dried tubifex worms for this, but others
> have good success with flakes and pellets so ymmv. I guess my dosages
> (my bad) and I haven't killed anything yet, but I should really contact
> the manufacturer.
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>
>
>


NB: This email address is dead. If you would like to email me directly,
please use: cpalmaATSYMBOLastro.psu.edu

[NetMax]

I've no experience with praziquantel. Medicated food is typically used
for the delivery of antibiotics, because bacterial infections are often
internal. External parasites and fungal infections are treated from the
outside, either by medication in the water, or by direct application to
their sides (depending on ailment of course). Some anti-parasitics are
intended for internal use (ie: cannellus worms), but the manufacturer
should provide instructions if using food for dosage delivery.

If you think the parasite has been beaten off, then lots of clean fresh
water would be a good elixir, rich diet with lots of variety served in
small frequent portions, elevate the water temperature a bit and perhaps
a bit of Melafix in the water between water changes. Just a normal
recovery program might do it, but I'm no expert, it's just what I would
do.
--
www.NetMax.tk

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
> Well, since two other posts have pointed out that this expires quickly
and
> is apparently not being made anymore, it looks like I'll be making my
own!
>
> Thanks for the step by step instructions.
>
> One question -- what medicine would you recommend to help complete the
> recovery from an apparent outbreak of gill flukes? I have treated the
> aquarium with two doses of praziquantel (the active ingredient in the
> fizzy tabs sold at my LFS) so far added directly to the aquarium.
>
> --chris
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, NetMax wrote:
>
> > You can google for medicated foods, but you will mostly find pond
> > suppliers or manufacturers you never heard of on auction sites.
> > Medicated foods are a great way to go, but perhaps you should make
your
> > own. Preparing the foods is easy, determining the dosage is tricky.
For
> > that, try sending an email to the manufacturer for their
recommendations.
> >
> > Regarding food preparation:
> > For dried foods, spread the amount you will feed over the duration of
the
> > medicinal treatment in a shallow waterproof pan. Dissolve the
medicine
> > (antibiotics) into the smallest amount of water which will both
dissolve
> > the medicine and allow you to evenly spread it over the flake food.
Then
> > allow the food to completely dry before using it.
> >
> > For freeze-dried foods, simply soak the food in your antibiotic
saturated
> > water and feed the fish their normal portions. You can start feeding
> > right away and let the remaining portions dry out.
> >
> > For frozen foods, spread the food portion out and let it thaw.
Without
> > disturbing the food, remove most of the excess water (ie: paper towel
> > gently placed on top). Then sprinkle your antibiotics over the
foods.
> > Depending on the antibiotic, you might want to pre-dissolve it in a
small
> > amount of water. Depending on the type of frozen food, you might
want to
> > mix the food and solution together (ie: bloodworms), or not
(beefheart).
> > Then serve and promptly re-freeze your future portions.
> >
> > FWIW, I usually use the freeze dried tubifex worms for this, but
others
> > have good success with flakes and pellets so ymmv. I guess my
dosages
> > (my bad) and I haven't killed anything yet, but I should really
contact
> > the manufacturer.
> > --
> > www.NetMax.tk
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> NB: This email address is dead. If you would like to email me
directly,
> please use: cpalmaATSYMBOLastro.psu.edu
>

[Rick]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
> Well, since two other posts have pointed out that this expires quickly and
> is apparently not being made anymore, it looks like I'll be making my own!
>
> Thanks for the step by step instructions.
>
> One question -- what medicine would you recommend to help complete the
> recovery from an apparent outbreak of gill flukes? I have treated the
> aquarium with two doses of praziquantel (the active ingredient in the
> fizzy tabs sold at my LFS) so far added directly to the aquarium.
>
> --chris
>
do you really need that much medication? You an buy Jungle Fluke Tabs (fizz
type) relatively cheap and avoid the hassle.

Rick

[Chris Palma]

Well, I'm not sure how much I need, that's why I'm here. :)

I did use Jungle fluke tabs, which recommended two doses with a water
change between. In alt.aquaria, Frank (who I think is the recognized
disease treatment expert) suggested following up the fluke tabs with a 10
day treatment with medicated food to aid in the recovery. Since it has
already been a week since I used the fluke tabs and don't have any
medicated food anyway, I guess I will just do another water change early
and just keep an eye on everyone. One of the hardest hit fish during the
fluke outbreak still seems to be weak, but he does seem to be getting
better instead of getting worse.

--chris



On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Rick wrote:

>
> "Chris Palma" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, since two other posts have pointed out that this expires quickly and
> > is apparently not being made anymore, it looks like I'll be making my own!
> >
> > Thanks for the step by step instructions.
> >
> > One question -- what medicine would you recommend to help complete the
> > recovery from an apparent outbreak of gill flukes? I have treated the
> > aquarium with two doses of praziquantel (the active ingredient in the
> > fizzy tabs sold at my LFS) so far added directly to the aquarium.
> >
> > --chris
> >
> do you really need that much medication? You an buy Jungle Fluke Tabs (fizz
> type) relatively cheap and avoid the hassle.
>
> Rick
>
>
>

NB: This email address is dead. If you would like to email me directly,
please use: cpalmaATSYMBOLastro.psu.edu

[Rick]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
>
> Well, I'm not sure how much I need, that's why I'm here. :)
>
> I did use Jungle fluke tabs, which recommended two doses with a water
> change between. In alt.aquaria, Frank (who I think is the recognized
> disease treatment expert) suggested following up the fluke tabs with a 10
> day treatment with medicated food to aid in the recovery. Since it has
> already been a week since I used the fluke tabs and don't have any
> medicated food anyway, I guess I will just do another water change early
> and just keep an eye on everyone. One of the hardest hit fish during the
> fluke outbreak still seems to be weak, but he does seem to be getting
> better instead of getting worse.
>
> --chris
>
>
Frank does know a lot about fish disease and treatments however I would
think that once you have medicated with the fluke tabs , feeding a quality
high protein diet should be fine. Not sure what type of fish you are
treating however some frozen brine shrimp, quality flake and perhaps some
live white worms etc should rally them relatively quickly.

Rick