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March 1st 07, 07:44 PM
Hi everyone,

I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
up a 200 gallon tank. Its going to need a bunch of live rock, and I'm
probably going to have to mail order it because I live in a small,
isolated town without a LFS. Who are the reputable dealers in live
rock nowadays? I remember having good luck with Jeff's Exotic Fish a
few years back. How about drs. foster and smith? I have been
impressed with their dry goods orders.

Thanks-
Ryan Lenz

Tristin
March 1st 07, 09:45 PM
Have no fear, I'll have Reefbay post a complete listing of live rock
that they sell as a speical service to this group coutesy of Wayne
Sallee

On 1 Mar 2007 11:44:50 -0800, "
> wrote:

<<>>Hi everyone,
<<>>
<<>>I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
<<>>up a 200 gallon tank. Its going to need a bunch of live rock, and I'm
<<>>probably going to have to mail order it because I live in a small,
<<>>isolated town without a LFS. Who are the reputable dealers in live
<<>>rock nowadays? I remember having good luck with Jeff's Exotic Fish a
<<>>few years back. How about drs. foster and smith? I have been
<<>>impressed with their dry goods orders.
<<>>
<<>>Thanks-
<<>>Ryan Lenz



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Reel McKoi
March 1st 07, 10:02 PM
> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
> up a 200 gallon tank.........
==============
Sorry I can't help with the live rock but am interested in the weight of
your 200g tank. Do you have it on a basement floor or have you reinforced
the regular flooring?
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Tristin
March 1st 07, 10:29 PM
Non of yur business CArol. Your big fish tank is a 1 quart mason jar
witha betta.....you dumbass you live ina trailer home on welfare and
think yur gonna get a reef setup......It wuld be too hard to do
without the beer and cigs and porn mags for Randy, and the bananas for
the grand kid!

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:02:13 -0600, "Reel McKoi"
> wrote:

<<>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
<<>>> Hi everyone,
<<>>>
<<>>> I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
<<>>> up a 200 gallon tank.........
<<>>==============
<<>>Sorry I can't help with the live rock but am interested in the weight of
<<>>your 200g tank. Do you have it on a basement floor or have you reinforced
<<>>the regular flooring?



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StringerBell
March 2nd 07, 02:15 AM
Hi,
I am a relative newbie , 6+ months into my first Reef Tank. I have been
pretty successful so far, and I`m pretty sure it`s because I lucked out with
some great, cheap rock. I got it for 2.19 a pound on eBay. He was an East
coast Shipper, so 2nd day shipping was affordable to me. 80 lbs. cost me
about $300 total with shipping.
Heaps of starfish, Limpets, sponges, snails, macro-algae, etc. Have grown
out of the rock.
I also used some of that "Bio-spira" bacteria stuff and I think it prevented
some organisms from dying off the rock.
This seller has lots of very positive feedback, and I couldnt be happier
with his product.
Link is below----good luck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/FIJI-LIVE-ROCK-WALT-SMITH-CURED-LOW-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ150096165072QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1 17437QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
> up a 200 gallon tank. Its going to need a bunch of live rock, and I'm
> probably going to have to mail order it because I live in a small,
> isolated town without a LFS. Who are the reputable dealers in live
> rock nowadays? I remember having good luck with Jeff's Exotic Fish a
> few years back. How about drs. foster and smith? I have been
> impressed with their dry goods orders.
>
> Thanks-
> Ryan Lenz
>

March 2nd 07, 02:58 AM
On Mar 1, 2:02 pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...> Hi everyone,
Well, I neer really thought about that, to tell you the truth. Thats
because the tank is in a hospital, so I imagine they have extra beefy
flooring. I would estimate a 230 gallon tank to weigh in at about
2000 lbs or so, with some sand and rock in there. Keep in mind the
tank is 8 feet long, so if it were oriented perpendicular to the floor
joists, that would reduce the load on each individual joist
significantly.

Tristin--thanks for the offer to list that special deal on rock. I'd
certainly be interested!

Ryan Lenz

>
> > I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
> > up a 200 gallon tank.........
>
> ==============
> Sorry I can't help with the live rock but am interested in the weight of
> your 200g tank. Do you have it on a basement floor or have you reinforced
> the regular flooring?
> --
> RM....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> rec.ponder since late 1996.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Peter Pan
March 2nd 07, 03:05 AM
Ryan
try anyone of these site for LR purchases. Don't trust the troll you'll find
out he's just an Asshole. Just read any of his replies or posting for that
matter to see what he really is.

http://marinedepotlive.com/live-rock-sand.html?adsite=overture&keyword=live-
rock&OVRAW=live%20rock&OVKEY=live%20rock&OVMTC=standard

http://www.intmarinefish.com/liverock.html

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?pCatId=393

http://www.aquariumfish.net/information/live_rock.htm

Good luck
> wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 1, 2:02 pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...> Hi everyone,
Well, I neer really thought about that, to tell you the truth. Thats
because the tank is in a hospital, so I imagine they have extra beefy
flooring. I would estimate a 230 gallon tank to weigh in at about
2000 lbs or so, with some sand and rock in there. Keep in mind the
tank is 8 feet long, so if it were oriented perpendicular to the floor
joists, that would reduce the load on each individual joist
significantly.

Tristin--thanks for the offer to list that special deal on rock. I'd
certainly be interested!

Ryan Lenz

>
> > I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
> > up a 200 gallon tank.........
>
> ==============
> Sorry I can't help with the live rock but am interested in the weight of
> your 200g tank. Do you have it on a basement floor or have you reinforced
> the regular flooring?
> --
> RM....
> Frugal ponding since 1995.
> rec.ponder since late 1996.
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Reel McKoi
March 2nd 07, 03:08 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 1, 2:02 pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...> Hi everyone,
Well, I neer really thought about that, to tell you the truth. Thats
because the tank is in a hospital, so I imagine they have extra beefy
flooring. I would estimate a 230 gallon tank to weigh in at about
2000 lbs or so, with some sand and rock in there. Keep in mind the
tank is 8 feet long, so if it were oriented perpendicular to the floor
joists, that would reduce the load on each individual joist
significantly.
=======================
Oh, because we did add an extra support under the floor for our two 55g
tanks. They cross the joists so the load is spread out along the one wall.
The heavy crossbeam is what we supported. No sagging so far.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~ }<(((((o>

March 2nd 07, 09:51 AM
I ordered 50 pounds from Foster & Smith,it was the Lalo stuff.I am
very impressed with it,and I already have noticed 4 polyps that have
popped up.No hitchikers thus far either.There is a company on Ebay
that sells uncured rock from Walt Smith,I might give them a try
next.The shipping is obviously killing me though,so if I can get
uncured a couple bucks cheaper I will put the unused 55 that I have
to good use.Please,if you get anything other than the Lalo,let me
know how it looks.








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KurtG
March 2nd 07, 03:33 PM
wrote:
> I've been out of the hobby for a couple of years now and I'm setting
> up a 200 gallon tank.


I used this guy to buy 30#:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmrmarine

He's in florida as am I and it showed up in 24 hours. I'd find somebody
close to you, so it doesn't rot in shipment.

Here's another in California:
http://stores.ebay.com/My-Reef-Zone

--Kurt

George Patterson
March 2nd 07, 04:45 PM
wrote:
> Its going to need a bunch of live rock, and I'm
> probably going to have to mail order it because I live in a small,
> isolated town without a LFS.

I bought one order of "Tonga Deepwater" from Drs. Foster and Smith and one order
of uncured Tonga rock from Premium Aquatics. The "Tonga Deepwater" comes in 30
pound lots. I was (and still am) very pleased with mine. All large pieces, just
as advertised. The stuff from Premium Aquatics was also as advertised, but it
had a few pounds of rubble and more small pieces than the F&S product. I
complained here at the time about the amount of rubble and small pieces, but the
small pieces got chucked in the tank anyway. The PA product also was wrapped in
Asian newspaper, having been shipped to me directly from the dock in California.
I consider that a plus, since there's a better chance of hitchhikers that way.

I just checked their site, and Premium Aquatics is sold out of their Tonga rock.
They've also increased their prices a bit, but they have a discount on shipments
of 40 pounds or more.

I would not hesitate to order from either company again. In fact, if I were
setting up a tank from scratch, I would probably buy all the rock from Premium
Aquatics; it's hard to beat $3.99/lb for Tonga rock.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

Susan
March 2nd 07, 04:57 PM
I agree with George. Premium Aquatics has nice rock and is a good place to
order from. I've ordered several times from them. Their rock has much more
life form than my local fish store. I was always happy with it.

Susan :)
"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:uwYFh.274$NA4.178@trnddc07...
> wrote:
>> Its going to need a bunch of live rock, and I'm
>> probably going to have to mail order it because I live in a small,
>> isolated town without a LFS.
>
> I bought one order of "Tonga Deepwater" from Drs. Foster and Smith and one
> order of uncured Tonga rock from Premium Aquatics. The "Tonga Deepwater"
> comes in 30 pound lots. I was (and still am) very pleased with mine. All
> large pieces, just as advertised. The stuff from Premium Aquatics was also
> as advertised, but it had a few pounds of rubble and more small pieces
> than the F&S product. I complained here at the time about the amount of
> rubble and small pieces, but the small pieces got chucked in the tank
> anyway. The PA product also was wrapped in Asian newspaper, having been
> shipped to me directly from the dock in California. I consider that a
> plus, since there's a better chance of hitchhikers that way.
>
> I just checked their site, and Premium Aquatics is sold out of their Tonga
> rock. They've also increased their prices a bit, but they have a discount
> on shipments of 40 pounds or more.
>
> I would not hesitate to order from either company again. In fact, if I
> were setting up a tank from scratch, I would probably buy all the rock
> from Premium Aquatics; it's hard to beat $3.99/lb for Tonga rock.
>
> George Patterson
> If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
> to anything.

StringerBell
March 3rd 07, 12:34 AM
Yeah----thats the same guy I got from.

You cant beat $2.19 a pound.

>
>
> I used this guy to buy 30#:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmrmarine
>
> He's in florida as am I and it showed up in 24 hours. I'd find somebody
> close to you, so it doesn't rot in shipment.
>
> Here's another in California:
> http://stores.ebay.com/My-Reef-Zone
>
> --Kurt

Gill Passman
March 4th 07, 10:59 PM
Reel McKoi wrote:

> Oh, because we did add an extra support under the floor for our two 55g
> tanks. They cross the joists so the load is spread out along the one
> wall. The heavy crossbeam is what we supported. No sagging so far.


Hmmmm....and care to tell the reef group what these 55 gall tanks
contain?....IIRC Platys and/or fancy goldfish.....do you have any
experience of the additional weight load put into a tank by the addition
of live rock?????......generally it is around 1lb per gall......woops,
should have let you find that one out for yourself.....

Reel McKoi
March 5th 07, 07:27 AM
"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> Reel McKoi wrote:
>
>> Oh, because we did add an extra support under the floor for our two 55g
>> tanks. They cross the joists so the load is spread out along the one
>> wall. The heavy crossbeam is what we supported. No sagging so far.
>
>
> Hmmmm....and care to tell the reef group what these 55 gall tanks
> contain?....IIRC Platys and/or fancy goldfish.....do you have any
> experience of the additional weight load put into a tank by the addition
> of live rock?????......generally it is around 1lb per gall......woops,
> should have let you find that one out for yourself.....
==========================
That's irrelevant to how much weight a floor can take without extra
supports.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~ }<(((((o>

Wayne Sallee
March 5th 07, 03:03 PM
With or without live rock, it's still true. Stop
trolling the trolls.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Gill Passman wrote on 3/4/2007 5:59 PM:
> Reel McKoi wrote:
>
>> Oh, because we did add an extra support under the floor for our two
>> 55g tanks. They cross the joists so the load is spread out along the
>> one wall. The heavy crossbeam is what we supported. No sagging so far.
>
>
> Hmmmm....and care to tell the reef group what these 55 gall tanks
> contain?....IIRC Platys and/or fancy goldfish.....do you have any
> experience of the additional weight load put into a tank by the addition
> of live rock?????......generally it is around 1lb per gall......woops,
> should have let you find that one out for yourself.....
>
>

Tristin
March 5th 07, 03:16 PM
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 01:27:40 -0600, "Reel McKoi"
> puked up some crap like:


<<>>==========================
<<>>That's irrelevant to how much weight a floor can take without extra
<<>>supports.

STFU CArol Gulley your a freaking moron and a dancing puppet. Now give
us all a pole dance there Carol the Troll Meister

My god carol put some clothes on, do you want to make all these folks
go blind? Dance you moron dance!

Then again these jerks in the reef group love all the
attention...bunch of baby morons from the spawn of Carol Gulley!





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