Beta Friendly Fish?

[Gwendolyn]

I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
thanks.

[swarvegorilla]

"Gwendolyn" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
> I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
> a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
> thanks.
>

white cloud minnow
platy
smaller danio

lots of other stuff too
just stay away from labrynths, long finned liverbearers like guppys, barbs
and barb shaped tetra (like black widow, serpea or columbian blue and reds)
things like rasbora, cardinals, golden medaka and stuff work well usually
if the container is too small or your fighters a psycho he may attack them
but its rare if they are adult fish
myself I think shrimp are the best companions
our local riffles are perfect but I'm sure you have good species as well in
your local creek

[Reel McKoi]

"Gwendolyn" > wrote in message
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>I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
> I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
> a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
> thanks.
====================
Hi and welcome the group. In the past I had problems keeping bettas with
other fish so keep the last two alone in their own 1g tanks. Bettas have
individual personalities but I always seemed to get the aggressive ones. If
I were going to put them in a larger tank I would have something like a
small pleco or a few small oto's as their companions.
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[Tynk]

On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "Gwendolyn" > wrote:
> I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
> I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
> a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
> thanks.

Hi there.
Since your tank will be going through a cycle, I wouldn't suggest you
add any new fish right away.
You need to let your tank grow the nitrifying bacteria colonies needed
to break down ammonia into nitries, and then into less harmful
nitrates. When you add too many fish at once you will be going adding
too much of a bio load and this can cause a high spike in ammonia
levels (toxic for fish).
Wait a couple/few weeks and then add a new fish.
Another poster recommended adding a Pleco, however they neglected to
add any details about which type.
They mentioned Oto's (Otocinclus) cats and those are a good choice. A
pair would suffice for a 10g. However, they need algae to eat and if
your tank doesn't have an algae problem, there's no need for them.
They would quickly starve.
Now there are many Pleco varieties that are omnivorous, meaning they
eat both plant and meaty foods. If you chose to get a pleco you would
need to research the different types that stay small, and are
omnivororous.
Again, if you have a straight algae eating one and not enough algae to
support it, you then have to add vegie matter for it to eat.
Algae disks aren't always the answer either.
Stay FAR away from the common plecos you find in shops, as they grow
well over a foot long. I wouldn't house one in my 75g, let along a
10g!
One of the best pieces of advice I can give you is to research before
buying. Many pet shops don't know squat about the fish they are
selling. Many employees will talk like they do, but are really just
talking out of their butts.
You'll quickly learn this as you research for facts.
Now once your tank's cycle is going (I suggested you research this if
you are not aware of the process in another post to you) and you want
to add more tank mates you need to understand that each Betta is
different. They all have individual personalities.
Rarely you might get one that can't be housed with other fish. 99% of
the time they simply need to settle down and get used to having other
fish in the tank. They are so often kept in isolation that they make
act territorial at first. Normal behavior can be huffing and puffing
and putting on a good flare show for the new arrival, yet no nipping
or chasing.
They usually quickly settle down and most ignore tank mates. Some will
chase others at feeding time, but do no harm.
It would be a problem if the Betta is biting a tank mate. If this is
the case, remove the fish.
A good rule when it comes to Bettas is to always have a back up plan.
Since they're all so different there are no steadfast rules when it
comes to personality.
Suggestions on tank mates can include:
African Dwarf Frogs (these eat frozen bloodworms daily, so are good
tank mates IMO).
Many different types of live bearers. Any fry will be eaten right away
by the Betta, but is a great food for them. Fancy male Guppies--it
depends on the individual male Betta. I've personally had many males
ignore them, and a few (in many yrs) that wouldn't tolerate them. One
of those males just had a thing for male Gups that were the same color
as he was, but ignored the other colors.
Neon or Cardinal Tetras...must be fully grown size. The small ones
make an expensive snack.
Any type of Corydora catfish (cory for short)...these should be kept
in groups, as they are schooling fish.
Now when you think of adding other fish to the tank (If you do at all)
don't believe the "one inch of fish per gallon" myth. It's not
accurate at all as it doesn't take into consideration waste put out,
territorial needs, large body mass...not just legnth, etc.
Things like the ADF (mini frogs) put out a large amount of waste and
IMO you wouldn't be able to house more than 3 and the Betta in a 10g
tank. Yet if you added 6 Neons to your 10g along with your Betta it's
a different story.
This is why researching fish types before buying is absolutely
necessary.
Good job so far for asking Q's before doing! = )

[swarvegorilla]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "Gwendolyn" > wrote:
>> I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
>> I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
>> a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
>> thanks.
>
> Hi there.
> Since your tank will be going through a cycle, I wouldn't suggest you
> add any new fish right away.
> You need to let your tank grow the nitrifying bacteria colonies needed
> to break down ammonia into nitries, and then into less harmful
> nitrates. When you add too many fish at once you will be going adding
> too much of a bio load and this can cause a high spike in ammonia
> levels (toxic for fish).
> Wait a couple/few weeks and then add a new fish.
> Another poster recommended adding a Pleco, however they neglected to
> add any details about which type.
> They mentioned Oto's (Otocinclus) cats and those are a good choice. A
> pair would suffice for a 10g. However, they need algae to eat and if
> your tank doesn't have an algae problem, there's no need for them.
> They would quickly starve.
> Now there are many Pleco varieties that are omnivorous, meaning they
> eat both plant and meaty foods. If you chose to get a pleco you would
> need to research the different types that stay small, and are
> omnivororous.
> Again, if you have a straight algae eating one and not enough algae to
> support it, you then have to add vegie matter for it to eat.
> Algae disks aren't always the answer either.
> Stay FAR away from the common plecos you find in shops, as they grow
> well over a foot long. I wouldn't house one in my 75g, let along a
> 10g!
> One of the best pieces of advice I can give you is to research before
> buying. Many pet shops don't know squat about the fish they are
> selling. Many employees will talk like they do, but are really just
> talking out of their butts.
> You'll quickly learn this as you research for facts.
> Now once your tank's cycle is going (I suggested you research this if
> you are not aware of the process in another post to you) and you want
> to add more tank mates you need to understand that each Betta is
> different. They all have individual personalities.
> Rarely you might get one that can't be housed with other fish. 99% of
> the time they simply need to settle down and get used to having other
> fish in the tank. They are so often kept in isolation that they make
> act territorial at first. Normal behavior can be huffing and puffing
> and putting on a good flare show for the new arrival, yet no nipping
> or chasing.
> They usually quickly settle down and most ignore tank mates. Some will
> chase others at feeding time, but do no harm.
> It would be a problem if the Betta is biting a tank mate. If this is
> the case, remove the fish.
> A good rule when it comes to Bettas is to always have a back up plan.
> Since they're all so different there are no steadfast rules when it
> comes to personality.
> Suggestions on tank mates can include:
> African Dwarf Frogs (these eat frozen bloodworms daily, so are good
> tank mates IMO).
> Many different types of live bearers. Any fry will be eaten right away
> by the Betta, but is a great food for them. Fancy male Guppies--it
> depends on the individual male Betta. I've personally had many males
> ignore them, and a few (in many yrs) that wouldn't tolerate them. One
> of those males just had a thing for male Gups that were the same color
> as he was, but ignored the other colors.
> Neon or Cardinal Tetras...must be fully grown size. The small ones
> make an expensive snack.
> Any type of Corydora catfish (cory for short)...these should be kept
> in groups, as they are schooling fish.
> Now when you think of adding other fish to the tank (If you do at all)
> don't believe the "one inch of fish per gallon" myth. It's not
> accurate at all as it doesn't take into consideration waste put out,
> territorial needs, large body mass...not just legnth, etc.
> Things like the ADF (mini frogs) put out a large amount of waste and
> IMO you wouldn't be able to house more than 3 and the Betta in a 10g
> tank. Yet if you added 6 Neons to your 10g along with your Betta it's
> a different story.
> This is why researching fish types before buying is absolutely
> necessary.
> Good job so far for asking Q's before doing! = )
>
>

I would reccomend snails over plecos
for a fighter tank any day
ramshorns are a favourite of mine but some people have problems accepting
their ability to breed if you overfeed the fish
apple snails can sometimes have their snorkle attacked by betta
but usually make a good choice
if you really wanted a pleco
getting a small 'bristlenose'
google for a pic
think the latin is something like ancistrus dolichopterus
buy the smallest ya can
and feed it with a bit of vege like cucumber/zuccini/squash on a stainless
steel fork if
theres no algae for it
the bristlenose (or bushynose) is a smaller plec, and most of all they are
VERY cheap!!
yay!!
:)

[Tynk]

On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "Gwendolyn" > wrote:
> I have my Beta fish resettled into a 10 gallon tank as of tonight. now
> I have to figure out what other fish to put in there that will not be
> a threat to him or vise versa/won't nip his fins ect. any suggestions?
> thanks.

Gwen,

Just wondering if you read any of these posts left for you.