Re: RESULT: rec.ponds.moderated will be created

[Gill Passman]

FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten
please read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll
group......maybe consider taking this option....

Gill





The Big-8 Management Board wrote:
> RESULT
> rec.ponds.moderated will be created
>
> The Last Call for Comments on 28 Feb 2007 inititated a five-day period for
> final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8 Management Board
> has decided by a vote to create the newsgroup rec.ponds.moderated.
>
> The vote was 8 in favor and 0 opposed. 1 active member did not vote.
>
> This group will be created on 09 Mar 2007.
>
>
> NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.ponds.moderated
>
> rec.ponds.moderated Care & enjoyment of recreational pods & water gardens. (Moderated)
>
>
> CHARTER:
>
> C01 Description and Purpose
>
> Rec.ponds.moderated is a moderated newsgroup that provides a friendly,
> respectful forum for the discussion of all aspects of ponds and water
> gardens. The rec.ponds.moderated newsgroup appeals to a wide range of
> people involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of
> establishing and maintaining a pond or water garden. Participants
> range from novices to persons with many years of experience, from
> amateur hobbyists to professional botanists and ichthyologists, from
> students wishing to get help with science projects to retired persons
> seeking a quiet, pleasurable pastime. All interested persons are
> welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply to lurk and learn.
>
> C02 Permitted Content
>
> Discussions appropriate to a ponding community including, but not
> limited to:
>
> * Building a pond/water garden
> * Establishing an ecosystem
> * Plant life
> * Fish
> * Amphibians and reptiles
> * Aquatic environmental concerns
> * Discussions of large, unlined natural ponds
>
> C03 The Following Is Prohibited
>
> All posts containing these items are rejected, and returned with
> explanation if permitted by the automated software.
>
> * Obscenities
> * Implied or direct threats, slander, insults, bigotry, prejudice
> or harassment
> * Flaming, trolling, flooding, and personal verbal attacks
> * Frequent petty criticism of another poster
> * Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats
> * Attacks on others based on gender, race, sexual orientation
> or religion
> * Commercial posts
> * Excessive cross-posting, although limited, on-topic cross-posting
> is permitted
> * Chain letters
> * Posts written in HTML
> * EMP spam
> * Binaries, other than pgp signatures, x-face headers, and other
> ancillary article meta-data
> * Forgery of names, valid email addresses and/or approval headers
> * Excessive morphing/nym shifting ("excessive" is undefined but is
> at the discretion of the moderators)
> * Excessive quoting of old material, with little new content
> (these will be judgment calls made by the moderators)
> * Personal identification information associated with anyone other
> than the poster (e.g. residential addresses, phone numbers and
> government identifications)
> * Content advocating acts that would be intrinsically illegal
> in most places
> * Copyright violations. (However, pointers to news articles,
> blogs, etc. that are on-topic are welcome. They must comply with
> fair use standards.)
>
> C04 Charter Implementation
>
> The charter of this newsgroup is implemented by a group of moderators.
> Their task is to develop and carry out the methods and means necessary
> to insure that the stated purposes of the group charter are accomplished.
> Their methods shall be defined as Moderation Policy and Practices. (MPP)
>
> Moderators make use of whatever tools and discussion processes they deem
> necessary to carry out their responsibilities. One such tool may
> include the use of automated moderation software.
>
> C05 Moderation Policy Objectives and Practices
>
> Moderation policy adheres to and carries out the stated goals and
> purposes of the group. Moderation policy & practices (MPP) may be
> changed by the moderators to meet the ongoing needs of the newsgroup
> charter.
>
> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the
> newsgroup, and newsgroup readers are invited to share and discuss
> their views of the proposed changes. Passage of the changes is by a
> 2/3 majority vote of the moderators. Changes are published in the
> newsgroup.
>
> C06 Moderator Standards
>
> Moderators approve or reject posts based upon content as listed in C02
> and C03 above. Moderators maintain a standard of neutrality and
> non-bias. Moderators do not add, delete, or edit anything within a
> post. Tags are not added.
>
> Decisions of the moderation team are final. Moderators permit posts
> that may contain technically incorrect information, provided that the
> post is not deemed to be deliberately deceptive. Any approved post
> that is forwarded to the newsgroup, and contains incorrect information,
> may and should be followed up by posts that attempt to correct the
> misinformation. Such corrective posts may be made by any interested
> person/s in the newsgroup.
>
> All personal posts made by moderators go through the same complete
> process as posts made by the general readership of the group.
> Moderators do not review their own posts, nor those of a relative.
> Moderators who fail to abide by the charter and current moderation
> policy may be warned and/or removed by the other moderators.
>
> C07 Moderator Accessibility and Accountability
>
> The moderators provide options for both private and public
> interaction with the readership of the newsgroup. An email contact
> address is provided for complaints, appeals, reviews and suggestions.
> The receipt of emails to the contact address is acknowledged by a
> return email, provided a valid return address is given.
>
> In addition, the Charter provides for limited public discussion
> of the general issues of moderation policy, group operation and other
> matters that affect the group.
>
> Moderators shall create and occasionally publish FAQ and other
> documents that promote the functionality of the newsgroup.
>
> C08 Readership Participation & Responsibility
>
> All participants in the group may:
>
> * Request changes to moderation policy and participate in the
> discussion of changes.
> * Privately ask for all moderators to review a specific rejected
> post (within practical numerical limits determined by the
> moderators.)
> * Nominate new moderators.
>
>
> MODERATION POLICY: rec.ponds.moderated
>
> MPP01 Purpose
>
> The purpose of moderation policy & practices is to carry out the
> objectives and goals of the charter. MPP may be changed as per the
> Charter and MPP13.
>
> MPP02 Automated (robotic) Moderation Software
>
> If and when feasible, the moderation team may employ automated
> moderation software to initially screen and pre-filter all incoming
> posts, and to ensure that all posts meet certain current moderation
> policies. Posts that do not will be automatically returned along with
> a brief explanation (if permitted by the automated software), provided
> that such posts have a valid return address. All posts that are
> approved by the automated software will be forwarded to human
> moderators for further examination.
>
> MPP03 Cross-posting
>
> Minimal cross-posting to related groups based on subject matter
> (e.g.,fish hobby, gardening and wildlife management) will be allowed.
> No cross-posting to irrelevant groups will be permitted. Such
> cross-posted messages shall be returned, provided a valid return email
> address is provided. When feasible, cross-post filtering may be
> handled by automated software.
>
> MPP04 Authorship of Posts
>
> Anyone will be allowed to post as long as they are not forging another
> poster's name or address. Anonymous posting will be allowed.
> Occasional name-shifting may be permitted, but excessive name-shifting
> will not be permitted, as per C03.
>
> Automated robotic software methods to protect the author's identity
> may be employed through the use of voluntary passwords, pgp, or any
> other methods if and when such methods become technically available.
>
> MPP05 Human Moderation
>
> After approval by any automated software, messages are forwarded
> to the moderators who will review them and then make final decisions
> of approval or rejection based upon the content of the post (C02 and
> C03). There shall be no editing of any post by any moderator, as
> stated in C06 of the Charter. Rejected messages shall be returned to
> the poster, provided a valid return address is available. If
> permitted by the software, an explanation for the rejection shall be
> included.
>
> MPP06 Moderator Approval and Rejection Policies
>
> At a minimum, when using automated software, one moderator may
> approve a post to be forwarded to the newsgroup, and one moderator may
> reject a post and have it returned. If the automated robotic software
> contains a multi-pass/reject option, then more than one moderator may
> be asked to agree before a post is approved or rejected.
>
> Moderators may consult with one another before deciding to pass
> or reject a post whose content is borderline or questionable. This
> consultation may add to the time-delay of the processing of a post.
>
> If a post is rejected, it may be appealed to the Moderation Team,
> provided it is seen as a legitimate request, and not as a disruptive
> attempt or tactic to distract or flood the team with large numbers of
> obviously inappropriate messages.
>
> MPP07 Personal Advertising
>
> Very limited personal advertising shall be permitted. Such
> advertising must be directly related to on-topic aquatic/pond subject
> matter. Such postings must be non-commercial and of a "for-sale" type
> for items that the poster no longer needs or wants. The number of
> ads permitted by any one poster per any given time period shall be
> left to the discretion of the moderators, with all posters subject to
> the same conditions.
>
> MPP08 Ending Threads
>
> The moderators reserve the right to end a thread that has veered
> significantly off-topic, or that has become dominated by rehashing
> and/or repetition.
>
> MPP09 Moderator Decisions
>
> The decisions of the moderation team shall be final.
>
> MPP10 Structure of the Human Moderation Team
>
> The review and moderation of posts that are approved by the automated
> software program will be conducted by a Moderation Team.
>
> The first moderation team members will be divided into two classes,
> and appointed for one or two year terms, to end on August 31, 2008 and
> 2009 respectively. Thereafter a new class of moderators will be
> elected annually during the month of August, to serve two-year terms,
> beginning on September 1st of the election year and continuing through
> August 31st of the second year after the election.
>
> The current moderation team will select each new class of moderators,
> and election will be by a minimum 2/3 vote of the current moderators.
>
> The total number of moderators may be changed by the moderation team,
> which will seek to maintain an equal number of members in each class.
>
> The general readership of rec.ponds.moderated are encouraged to
> propose/nominate potential moderators to the team, as per C08.
>
> When nominating and electing new moderators, all persons involved
> shall remain mindful of the benefit and need for the moderation team
> to be as globally positioned as possible. This helps to ensure
> adequate global representation and also to lower the time-delay factor
> in approving posts.
>
> Moderators may be re-elected. The moderation team shall elect
> persons to fill vacancies using the 2/3 criterion for election.
>
> MPP11 Head Moderator
>
> The moderation team may choose to elect a (head/chief/administrative)
> moderator by a majority vote, if it deems such a position to be
> necessary. The duties and responsibilities of such a position would
> be determined as needed.
>
> MPP12 Moderator Removal
>
> If a moderator does not abide by the charter and current moderation
> policies, the other moderators may warn and, if necessary, remove
> that moderator by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderation team.
> Moderators who wish to resign for any reason may do so by emailing
> the head moderator or the moderation team.
>
> MPP13 Changes to Moderation Policy & Practices
>
> As stated in the Charter, moderation policy & practices (MPP) may
> be changed to meet the permanent objectives of the Charter and the
> ongoing needs of the newsgroup.
>
> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the newsgroup,
> and the general readership may discuss the proposed changes. Changes
> shall be adopted by a 2/3 majority of the current moderators, and
> will be published in the newsgroup.
>
> As stated in C08, the general readership may suggest changes to
> policy and practices.
>
> MPP14 Moderator Posts
>
> Moderators shall use [MODERATOR ANNOUNCE:] to preface official
> informational posts to the readership of rec.ponds.moderated.
>
> MPP15 Moderator Contact Address
>
> As per C07, the moderators shall provide a contact email address
> for anyone who wishes to make a complaint, question, or offer a
> suggestion.
>
>
> MODERATOR INFO: rec.ponds.moderated
>
> Moderator: Derek >
> Moderator: Galen >
> Moderator: ~jan >
> Moderator: Jim >
> Moderator: Kathy30a >
> Moderator: Phyllis >
> Moderator: Gill >
>
> At the time of the submission of the 3rd RFD/LCC, the proponent and
> proposed moderators of r.p.m have chosen to use ReadySTUMP as the
> automated software program for the newsgroup.
>
>
> Article Submissions:
> Administrative Contact:
>
>
> DISTRIBUTION:
>
> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>
> news.announce.newgroups
> news.groups.proposals
> rec.ponds
> rec.aquaria.misc
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
>
> The proponent will also post pointers to:
>
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
> alt.aquaria
>
>
> PROPONENT:
>
> Ron Schompert >
>
> Co-Proponent: Galen Hekhuis >
>
>
> CHANGE HISTORY:
>
> 2006-12-14 1st RFD
> 2007-01-12 2nd RFD
> 2007-02-28 3rd RFD/LCC
> 2007-03-05 Results

[Platius]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten please
> read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll
> group......maybe consider taking this option....
>
> Gill


Tristan brought the trolls to these aquaria groups by having psychotic
episodes and attacking several people such as Wayne, Carol, Peter, Gail,
Jen, Derek, Dick, Tara ....... and a lot more innocent souls who wanted
nothing more than to talk about fish. He was defended by YOU which gave him
encouragement since you are a moderator of rec.ponds. Moderators should
not encourage the mentally ill to harass, troll and slander innocent people
on these groups.

STOP ENCOURAGING HIM by telling people he's not abusing them when he clearly
is.

Stop him from abusing others or killfile and ignore Tristan = *** POOF ***
no more trolls.

[Gill Passman]

Platius wrote:

>
> Tristan brought the trolls to these aquaria groups by having psychotic
> episodes and attacking several people such as Wayne, Carol, Peter, Gail,
> Jen, Derek, Dick, Tara ....... and a lot more innocent souls who wanted
> nothing more than to talk about fish.

The only person who brought this troll war or should I really give it
it's real name of "pathetic personal vendetta" to
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs was you, Carol......because you cannot bear
that some of us just want to talk about fish in peace.....you, yourself,
claim that you can be free to post anti JW stuff on their group and be
immune from attack on any other group but operate a dual
standard......and just could not bear that some of us where enjoying
peaceful discussions about our fish and hobby without having to come in
like a bulldozer on amphetamines and ruin everthing for everyone.....do
I care about your on-going war with whoever takes exceptionn to you - NO
I DO NOT - do I care about you taking down another group - yes, I
do.....even if most of the members of this group do not see how you
spread your poison....and if I want to take you to task elsewhere I will
but you should not be cross-posting here......have a grain of decency in
your body and leave these people alone.....


> He was defended by YOU which gave
> him encouragement since you are a moderator of rec.ponds. Moderators
> should not encourage the mentally ill to harass, troll and slander
> innocent people on these groups.

For the record....and in fact Tristan/Roy will back me up here....I have
never defended his actions when he is totally pushed over the edge by
you.....but I can understand them.....in fact I will and do tell him
that he is over reacting and wrong.....(get a bit further with him than
I ever did with you)......but this is academic

Have you got a degree in Psychiatry or anything that qualifies to make a
diagnosis based on your observations that someone is mentally
ill.....from what I have read this is one of the basest accusations that
a troll will make against anyone who opposes them.....but I don't
pretend to have the qualifications or in depth interviews with
Tristan/Roy or indeed yourself that would enable me to make any
diagnosis.....

As for moderating a group......as long as all the crap gets filtered out
who cares who posts as long as they are on-topic and fulfill the
criteria of the charter.....

Leave this group alone Carol......it is not your preserve.......

Gill









>
> STOP ENCOURAGING HIM by telling people he's not abusing them when he
> clearly is.
>
> Stop him from abusing others or killfile and ignore Tristan = *** POOF
> *** no more trolls.
>
>
>

[Tristin]

Ohhhhhhhhhh, CArol Gulley got another new news server to wreak havoc
with you moron bitch!



On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:49:07 -0600, "Platius" >
wrote:

<<>>
<<>>"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
<<>>> FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten please
<<>>> read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll
<<>>> group......maybe consider taking this option....
<<>>>
<<>>> Gill
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>Tristan brought the trolls to these aquaria groups by having psychotic
<<>>episodes and attacking several people such as Wayne, Carol, Peter, Gail,
<<>>Jen, Derek, Dick, Tara ....... and a lot more innocent souls who wanted
<<>>nothing more than to talk about fish. He was defended by YOU which gave him
<<>>encouragement since you are a moderator of rec.ponds. Moderators should
<<>>not encourage the mentally ill to harass, troll and slander innocent people
<<>>on these groups.
<<>>
<<>>STOP ENCOURAGING HIM by telling people he's not abusing them when he clearly
<<>>is.
<<>>
<<>>Stop him from abusing others or killfile and ignore Tristan = *** POOF ***
<<>>no more trolls.
<<>>
<<>>



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Tristin]

Wayne don;t like a moderated group it takes the spot light off him
just like it does CArol Gulley....Ain;t that right Wayne?

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:14:08 +0000, Gill Passman
> wrote:

<<>>FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten
<<>>please read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll
<<>>group......maybe consider taking this option....
<<>>
<<>>Gill
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>The Big-8 Management Board wrote:
<<>>> RESULT
<<>>> rec.ponds.moderated will be created
<<>>>
<<>>> The Last Call for Comments on 28 Feb 2007 inititated a five-day period for
<<>>> final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8 Management Board
<<>>> has decided by a vote to create the newsgroup rec.ponds.moderated.
<<>>>
<<>>> The vote was 8 in favor and 0 opposed. 1 active member did not vote.
<<>>>
<<>>> This group will be created on 09 Mar 2007.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.ponds.moderated
<<>>>
<<>>> rec.ponds.moderated Care & enjoyment of recreational pods & water gardens. (Moderated)
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> CHARTER:
<<>>>
<<>>> C01 Description and Purpose
<<>>>
<<>>> Rec.ponds.moderated is a moderated newsgroup that provides a friendly,
<<>>> respectful forum for the discussion of all aspects of ponds and water
<<>>> gardens. The rec.ponds.moderated newsgroup appeals to a wide range of
<<>>> people involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of
<<>>> establishing and maintaining a pond or water garden. Participants
<<>>> range from novices to persons with many years of experience, from
<<>>> amateur hobbyists to professional botanists and ichthyologists, from
<<>>> students wishing to get help with science projects to retired persons
<<>>> seeking a quiet, pleasurable pastime. All interested persons are
<<>>> welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply to lurk and learn.
<<>>>
<<>>> C02 Permitted Content
<<>>>
<<>>> Discussions appropriate to a ponding community including, but not
<<>>> limited to:
<<>>>
<<>>> * Building a pond/water garden
<<>>> * Establishing an ecosystem
<<>>> * Plant life
<<>>> * Fish
<<>>> * Amphibians and reptiles
<<>>> * Aquatic environmental concerns
<<>>> * Discussions of large, unlined natural ponds
<<>>>
<<>>> C03 The Following Is Prohibited
<<>>>
<<>>> All posts containing these items are rejected, and returned with
<<>>> explanation if permitted by the automated software.
<<>>>
<<>>> * Obscenities
<<>>> * Implied or direct threats, slander, insults, bigotry, prejudice
<<>>> or harassment
<<>>> * Flaming, trolling, flooding, and personal verbal attacks
<<>>> * Frequent petty criticism of another poster
<<>>> * Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats
<<>>> * Attacks on others based on gender, race, sexual orientation
<<>>> or religion
<<>>> * Commercial posts
<<>>> * Excessive cross-posting, although limited, on-topic cross-posting
<<>>> is permitted
<<>>> * Chain letters
<<>>> * Posts written in HTML
<<>>> * EMP spam
<<>>> * Binaries, other than pgp signatures, x-face headers, and other
<<>>> ancillary article meta-data
<<>>> * Forgery of names, valid email addresses and/or approval headers
<<>>> * Excessive morphing/nym shifting ("excessive" is undefined but is
<<>>> at the discretion of the moderators)
<<>>> * Excessive quoting of old material, with little new content
<<>>> (these will be judgment calls made by the moderators)
<<>>> * Personal identification information associated with anyone other
<<>>> than the poster (e.g. residential addresses, phone numbers and
<<>>> government identifications)
<<>>> * Content advocating acts that would be intrinsically illegal
<<>>> in most places
<<>>> * Copyright violations. (However, pointers to news articles,
<<>>> blogs, etc. that are on-topic are welcome. They must comply with
<<>>> fair use standards.)
<<>>>
<<>>> C04 Charter Implementation
<<>>>
<<>>> The charter of this newsgroup is implemented by a group of moderators.
<<>>> Their task is to develop and carry out the methods and means necessary
<<>>> to insure that the stated purposes of the group charter are accomplished.
<<>>> Their methods shall be defined as Moderation Policy and Practices. (MPP)
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators make use of whatever tools and discussion processes they deem
<<>>> necessary to carry out their responsibilities. One such tool may
<<>>> include the use of automated moderation software.
<<>>>
<<>>> C05 Moderation Policy Objectives and Practices
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderation policy adheres to and carries out the stated goals and
<<>>> purposes of the group. Moderation policy & practices (MPP) may be
<<>>> changed by the moderators to meet the ongoing needs of the newsgroup
<<>>> charter.
<<>>>
<<>>> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the
<<>>> newsgroup, and newsgroup readers are invited to share and discuss
<<>>> their views of the proposed changes. Passage of the changes is by a
<<>>> 2/3 majority vote of the moderators. Changes are published in the
<<>>> newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>> C06 Moderator Standards
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators approve or reject posts based upon content as listed in C02
<<>>> and C03 above. Moderators maintain a standard of neutrality and
<<>>> non-bias. Moderators do not add, delete, or edit anything within a
<<>>> post. Tags are not added.
<<>>>
<<>>> Decisions of the moderation team are final. Moderators permit posts
<<>>> that may contain technically incorrect information, provided that the
<<>>> post is not deemed to be deliberately deceptive. Any approved post
<<>>> that is forwarded to the newsgroup, and contains incorrect information,
<<>>> may and should be followed up by posts that attempt to correct the
<<>>> misinformation. Such corrective posts may be made by any interested
<<>>> person/s in the newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>> All personal posts made by moderators go through the same complete
<<>>> process as posts made by the general readership of the group.
<<>>> Moderators do not review their own posts, nor those of a relative.
<<>>> Moderators who fail to abide by the charter and current moderation
<<>>> policy may be warned and/or removed by the other moderators.
<<>>>
<<>>> C07 Moderator Accessibility and Accountability
<<>>>
<<>>> The moderators provide options for both private and public
<<>>> interaction with the readership of the newsgroup. An email contact
<<>>> address is provided for complaints, appeals, reviews and suggestions.
<<>>> The receipt of emails to the contact address is acknowledged by a
<<>>> return email, provided a valid return address is given.
<<>>>
<<>>> In addition, the Charter provides for limited public discussion
<<>>> of the general issues of moderation policy, group operation and other
<<>>> matters that affect the group.
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators shall create and occasionally publish FAQ and other
<<>>> documents that promote the functionality of the newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>> C08 Readership Participation & Responsibility
<<>>>
<<>>> All participants in the group may:
<<>>>
<<>>> * Request changes to moderation policy and participate in the
<<>>> discussion of changes.
<<>>> * Privately ask for all moderators to review a specific rejected
<<>>> post (within practical numerical limits determined by the
<<>>> moderators.)
<<>>> * Nominate new moderators.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> MODERATION POLICY: rec.ponds.moderated
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP01 Purpose
<<>>>
<<>>> The purpose of moderation policy & practices is to carry out the
<<>>> objectives and goals of the charter. MPP may be changed as per the
<<>>> Charter and MPP13.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP02 Automated (robotic) Moderation Software
<<>>>
<<>>> If and when feasible, the moderation team may employ automated
<<>>> moderation software to initially screen and pre-filter all incoming
<<>>> posts, and to ensure that all posts meet certain current moderation
<<>>> policies. Posts that do not will be automatically returned along with
<<>>> a brief explanation (if permitted by the automated software), provided
<<>>> that such posts have a valid return address. All posts that are
<<>>> approved by the automated software will be forwarded to human
<<>>> moderators for further examination.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP03 Cross-posting
<<>>>
<<>>> Minimal cross-posting to related groups based on subject matter
<<>>> (e.g.,fish hobby, gardening and wildlife management) will be allowed.
<<>>> No cross-posting to irrelevant groups will be permitted. Such
<<>>> cross-posted messages shall be returned, provided a valid return email
<<>>> address is provided. When feasible, cross-post filtering may be
<<>>> handled by automated software.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP04 Authorship of Posts
<<>>>
<<>>> Anyone will be allowed to post as long as they are not forging another
<<>>> poster's name or address. Anonymous posting will be allowed.
<<>>> Occasional name-shifting may be permitted, but excessive name-shifting
<<>>> will not be permitted, as per C03.
<<>>>
<<>>> Automated robotic software methods to protect the author's identity
<<>>> may be employed through the use of voluntary passwords, pgp, or any
<<>>> other methods if and when such methods become technically available.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP05 Human Moderation
<<>>>
<<>>> After approval by any automated software, messages are forwarded
<<>>> to the moderators who will review them and then make final decisions
<<>>> of approval or rejection based upon the content of the post (C02 and
<<>>> C03). There shall be no editing of any post by any moderator, as
<<>>> stated in C06 of the Charter. Rejected messages shall be returned to
<<>>> the poster, provided a valid return address is available. If
<<>>> permitted by the software, an explanation for the rejection shall be
<<>>> included.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP06 Moderator Approval and Rejection Policies
<<>>>
<<>>> At a minimum, when using automated software, one moderator may
<<>>> approve a post to be forwarded to the newsgroup, and one moderator may
<<>>> reject a post and have it returned. If the automated robotic software
<<>>> contains a multi-pass/reject option, then more than one moderator may
<<>>> be asked to agree before a post is approved or rejected.
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators may consult with one another before deciding to pass
<<>>> or reject a post whose content is borderline or questionable. This
<<>>> consultation may add to the time-delay of the processing of a post.
<<>>>
<<>>> If a post is rejected, it may be appealed to the Moderation Team,
<<>>> provided it is seen as a legitimate request, and not as a disruptive
<<>>> attempt or tactic to distract or flood the team with large numbers of
<<>>> obviously inappropriate messages.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP07 Personal Advertising
<<>>>
<<>>> Very limited personal advertising shall be permitted. Such
<<>>> advertising must be directly related to on-topic aquatic/pond subject
<<>>> matter. Such postings must be non-commercial and of a "for-sale" type
<<>>> for items that the poster no longer needs or wants. The number of
<<>>> ads permitted by any one poster per any given time period shall be
<<>>> left to the discretion of the moderators, with all posters subject to
<<>>> the same conditions.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP08 Ending Threads
<<>>>
<<>>> The moderators reserve the right to end a thread that has veered
<<>>> significantly off-topic, or that has become dominated by rehashing
<<>>> and/or repetition.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP09 Moderator Decisions
<<>>>
<<>>> The decisions of the moderation team shall be final.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP10 Structure of the Human Moderation Team
<<>>>
<<>>> The review and moderation of posts that are approved by the automated
<<>>> software program will be conducted by a Moderation Team.
<<>>>
<<>>> The first moderation team members will be divided into two classes,
<<>>> and appointed for one or two year terms, to end on August 31, 2008 and
<<>>> 2009 respectively. Thereafter a new class of moderators will be
<<>>> elected annually during the month of August, to serve two-year terms,
<<>>> beginning on September 1st of the election year and continuing through
<<>>> August 31st of the second year after the election.
<<>>>
<<>>> The current moderation team will select each new class of moderators,
<<>>> and election will be by a minimum 2/3 vote of the current moderators.
<<>>>
<<>>> The total number of moderators may be changed by the moderation team,
<<>>> which will seek to maintain an equal number of members in each class.
<<>>>
<<>>> The general readership of rec.ponds.moderated are encouraged to
<<>>> propose/nominate potential moderators to the team, as per C08.
<<>>>
<<>>> When nominating and electing new moderators, all persons involved
<<>>> shall remain mindful of the benefit and need for the moderation team
<<>>> to be as globally positioned as possible. This helps to ensure
<<>>> adequate global representation and also to lower the time-delay factor
<<>>> in approving posts.
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators may be re-elected. The moderation team shall elect
<<>>> persons to fill vacancies using the 2/3 criterion for election.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP11 Head Moderator
<<>>>
<<>>> The moderation team may choose to elect a (head/chief/administrative)
<<>>> moderator by a majority vote, if it deems such a position to be
<<>>> necessary. The duties and responsibilities of such a position would
<<>>> be determined as needed.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP12 Moderator Removal
<<>>>
<<>>> If a moderator does not abide by the charter and current moderation
<<>>> policies, the other moderators may warn and, if necessary, remove
<<>>> that moderator by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderation team.
<<>>> Moderators who wish to resign for any reason may do so by emailing
<<>>> the head moderator or the moderation team.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP13 Changes to Moderation Policy & Practices
<<>>>
<<>>> As stated in the Charter, moderation policy & practices (MPP) may
<<>>> be changed to meet the permanent objectives of the Charter and the
<<>>> ongoing needs of the newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the newsgroup,
<<>>> and the general readership may discuss the proposed changes. Changes
<<>>> shall be adopted by a 2/3 majority of the current moderators, and
<<>>> will be published in the newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>> As stated in C08, the general readership may suggest changes to
<<>>> policy and practices.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP14 Moderator Posts
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderators shall use [MODERATOR ANNOUNCE:] to preface official
<<>>> informational posts to the readership of rec.ponds.moderated.
<<>>>
<<>>> MPP15 Moderator Contact Address
<<>>>
<<>>> As per C07, the moderators shall provide a contact email address
<<>>> for anyone who wishes to make a complaint, question, or offer a
<<>>> suggestion.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> MODERATOR INFO: rec.ponds.moderated
<<>>>
<<>>> Moderator: Derek >
<<>>> Moderator: Galen >
<<>>> Moderator: ~jan >
<<>>> Moderator: Jim >
<<>>> Moderator: Kathy30a >
<<>>> Moderator: Phyllis >
<<>>> Moderator: Gill >
<<>>>
<<>>> At the time of the submission of the 3rd RFD/LCC, the proponent and
<<>>> proposed moderators of r.p.m have chosen to use ReadySTUMP as the
<<>>> automated software program for the newsgroup.
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> Article Submissions:
<<>>> Administrative Contact:
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> DISTRIBUTION:
<<>>>
<<>>> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
<<>>>
<<>>> news.announce.newgroups
<<>>> news.groups.proposals
<<>>> rec.ponds
<<>>> rec.aquaria.misc
<<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
<<>>>
<<>>> The proponent will also post pointers to:
<<>>>
<<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish
<<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
<<>>> alt.aquaria
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> PROPONENT:
<<>>>
<<>>> Ron Schompert >
<<>>>
<<>>> Co-Proponent: Galen Hekhuis >
<<>>>
<<>>>
<<>>> CHANGE HISTORY:
<<>>>
<<>>> 2006-12-14 1st RFD
<<>>> 2007-01-12 2nd RFD
<<>>> 2007-02-28 3rd RFD/LCC
<<>>> 2007-03-05 Results



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[High Fins]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...

> ....I have never defended his actions when he is totally pushed over the
> edge by you.... <brevity snip>


Are you telling us he has no killfile and for some reason MUST read and
reply to all the messages of his ever growing list of target victims? That
we're all responsible for his outrageous actions? That we all have some
magic power over him?

Here Gill,... this is what you're defending like a inebriated confused old
mother hen. This is the insanity....... this gibbering and babbling is
hardly the words of a sane person. This isn't a dopey kid but a grown man.
Stop making excuses for his destruction of these groups.

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
> Ohhhhhhhhhh, CArol Gulley got another new news server to wreak havoc
> with you moron bitch!

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
> Thats what you get for buying crappy fish from Wayne or from his
> suggested places of purchase. UntilWayne, CarolGulley and Pzsemol
> gets done molesting the fish they are highly stressed.

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
> Screw you and your proof you little lazy assed son of a bitch, Go do
> some freaking legwork on your own for a freaking change........why the
> **** does everyone always have to prove what they say to you ya
> asshole! Your about an untrusting individual there mr engineer. or
> just plain ****ing lazy!

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
> Oh my! Inabon dumbass is trying to be a freaking comic.Pityfull, he is
> still a dumbass! and moron like carol gulley...

[High Fins]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
>
> The only person who brought this troll war or should I really give it it's
> real name of "pathetic personal vendetta" to .......


Wow Gill,..... now your good friend "Tristan" is cross-posting to the troll
groups and bringing them in here! What do you think of that? Whose "fault"
is that? Who MADE him do that? Who shall we blame this time? Wayne? Tara?
Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't it?

[swarvegorilla]

YEA BABY!!!!
that is super sweet
:)
jeez took a while but yes a big pat on the back for all involved
very very well done
WooooooooooooT!!!

[Tynk]

On Mar 5, 8:05?pm, "High Fins" > wrote:

ANOTHER screen name???
What's that make...25 for ya now?

[Kathy]

________ FLUSH _________


"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Mar 5, 8:05?pm, "High Fins" > wrote:
>
> ANOTHER screen name???
> What's that make...25 for ya now?
>
>
>

[Heliope]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Mar 5, 8:05?pm, "High Fins" > wrote:
>
> ANOTHER screen name???
> What's that make...25 for ya now?


[REJECTION] = Hyperbolic Ad Homonym. Endangering Target.

[Tynk]

On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" > wrote:
AND ANOTHER!!

[Gill Passman]

High Fins wrote:
Who shall we blame this
> time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault
> isn't it?

Well I'm pleased to see you included yourself on the list......but sadly
the only one on the list to blame for this is you, Carol.......and maybe
a bit of Wayne but then he is very new to your games and won't learn
from the experience of others.....he will soon enough.....and not via
abuse from Roy but from your incessant trolling of a group in which you
have no interest other than carrying out your personal vendetta against
two posters on the group......then maybe one day he will listen to those
that have put up with over 2 years of this crap.....and maybe, just
maybe, acknowledge we know what we are talking about......

So come on muppet girl....dance to the tune and prove yourself as the
troll and vicious, vindicative person you truly are.....Strings are mine
tonight.....if they are not then you will clear off and leave this group
alone......so, girl, it is your call.....are you a troll or will you do
the adult thing and back off ramr.....

Choice is yours, girl

Gill

[High Fin]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> High Fins wrote:
> Who shall we blame this
>> time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't
>> it?
>
> Well I'm pleased to see you included yourself on the list......but sadly
> the only one on the list to blame for this is you, Carol.......and maybe a
> bit of Wayne

Yep... always BLAME someone else. It's never poor foul mouth Tristan's
fault. People MAKE him attack others and have psychotic episodes. People
have magical powers. If he flips out completely and kills his wife it's
someone else's fault, right Gill? Tristan is a grown man in his 50s. No one
can make him do anything he doesn't want to do - accept that truth!

but then he is very new to your games and won't learn
> from the experience of others.....he will soon enough.....and not via
> abuse from Roy but from your incessant trolling of a group in which you
> have no interest other than carrying out your personal vendetta against
> two posters on the group......

Why are you trolling here Gill? Pot calling Kettle black? He surely sees
you have some motive to defend a sex-obsessed foul mouth person who refuses
to get help for his mental illness.

then maybe one day he will listen to those
> that have put up with over 2 years of this crap.....and maybe, just maybe,
> acknowledge we know what we are talking about......

Right.... we all MADE poor Tristan go postal on several posters here! We
forced him to act like an idiot.

> So come on muppet girl....dance to the tune and prove yourself as the
> troll and vicious, vindicative person you truly are.....

Gee Gill......... you must be looking in a mirror. :-)

Strings are mine
> tonight.....if they are not then you will clear off and leave this group
> alone......

You're the one replying to me!!!!!!! LOL!!!! Pot calls kettle black.
;-)

so, girl, it is your call.....are you a troll or will you do
> the adult thing and back off ramr.....
>
> Choice is yours, girl

Yep girl.......you are truly the muppet girl of the Aquarium groups.
Tristan did what he did to himself in all the groups. Anyone who looks in
rec.ponds for the past few months is well aware of his obsessive anti-social
behavior. Anyone who Googles Roy or ~Roy or ~Roy~ will quickly see what he
is. Your defending him isn't going to turn him into a normal person. You're
not qualified to deal with his serious borderline personality disorder.

[High Fins]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
...
> High Fins wrote:
> Who shall we blame this
>> time? Wayne? Tara? Derek? Carol? It's always someone else's fault isn't
>> it?

Oh, and here's your good friend Tristan's impersonation of a legitimate
poster. Why haven't you taken him to task for this Gill? Or is it Tara's
or Wayne's "fault" he did this? Why is it ok for him to nym-shift but you
get all upset when someone else does it? Goose and gander... remember?
;-)

From: "Reel McKoi" >
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Subject: SUPER LOW PRICES FIJI AND TONGA LIVE ROCK REASONABLE
SHIPPING RATES
Date: 2 Mar 2007 05:48:41 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Message-ID: om>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.255.242.221

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" > wrote:
> AND ANOTHER!!
==========================
Really boring on your Google group huh? No action there. I figured you'd
be back here where they can't muzzle, leash and control you.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Tynk]

On Mar 6, 10:03�pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...> On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" > wrote:
> > AND ANOTHER!!
>
> ==========================
> Really boring on your Google group huh? *No action there. *

Well Sybill,
I still post there.
Nobody argues with anyone. People disagree all the time. However, the
difference is you're not allowed there.
People can disagree without acting like you do.
Dance away muppet....Keep dancing.
It's a good laugh for eveyrone.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 6, 10:03�pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...> On Mar 6,
> 11:17?am, "Heliope" > wrote:
> > AND ANOTHER!!
>
> ==========================
> Really boring on your Google group huh? No action there.

Well Sybill,
I still post there.
Nobody argues with anyone. People disagree all the time. However, the
difference is you're not allowed there.

Of course I'm not. I never was one of the cabal, and I was blamed for
bringing Roy Tristan Hauer here. Not only that, but I refused to vanish for
a few weeks and come back with a new name and persona and pretend to be
someone I wasn't from somewhere I've never been with fish I don't have to
fool the trolls. How horrible of me! However, you can get as nasty and
arrogant and insulting with people as you choose and they see that as ok!
Double standard here?

People can disagree without acting like you do.

Like YOU do you mean. Unless someone agrees with you you get arrogant,
nasty and run the off. They don't come back.

Dance away muppet....Keep dancing.
It's a good laugh for eveyrone.

And the laugh is on you for harassing me and failing to drive me off as you
did all the others who didn't "see things your way." So keep dancing and
prancing and jumping through the hoops.........
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

[Ghent]

Bye bye psycho case!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Wayne don;t like a moderated group it takes the spot light off him
> just like it does CArol Gulley....Ain;t that right Wayne?
>
> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:14:08 +0000, Gill Passman
> > wrote:
>
> <<>>FYI only.....for all those that doubt that the trolls can be beaten
> <<>>please read the below......you are being attacked by the same troll
> <<>>group......maybe consider taking this option....
> <<>>
> <<>>Gill
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>
> <<>>The Big-8 Management Board wrote:
> <<>>> RESULT
> <<>>> rec.ponds.moderated will be created
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The Last Call for Comments on 28 Feb 2007 inititated a five-day
period for
> <<>>> final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8 Management
Board
> <<>>> has decided by a vote to create the newsgroup rec.ponds.moderated.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The vote was 8 in favor and 0 opposed. 1 active member did not
vote.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> This group will be created on 09 Mar 2007.
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.ponds.moderated
> <<>>>
> <<>>> rec.ponds.moderated Care & enjoyment of recreational pods & water
gardens. (Moderated)
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> CHARTER:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C01 Description and Purpose
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Rec.ponds.moderated is a moderated newsgroup that provides a
friendly,
> <<>>> respectful forum for the discussion of all aspects of ponds and
water
> <<>>> gardens. The rec.ponds.moderated newsgroup appeals to a wide
range of
> <<>>> people involved in both the recreational and professional aspects
of
> <<>>> establishing and maintaining a pond or water garden. Participants
> <<>>> range from novices to persons with many years of experience, from
> <<>>> amateur hobbyists to professional botanists and ichthyologists,
from
> <<>>> students wishing to get help with science projects to retired
persons
> <<>>> seeking a quiet, pleasurable pastime. All interested persons are
> <<>>> welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply to lurk and
learn.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C02 Permitted Content
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Discussions appropriate to a ponding community including, but not
> <<>>> limited to:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> * Building a pond/water garden
> <<>>> * Establishing an ecosystem
> <<>>> * Plant life
> <<>>> * Fish
> <<>>> * Amphibians and reptiles
> <<>>> * Aquatic environmental concerns
> <<>>> * Discussions of large, unlined natural ponds
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C03 The Following Is Prohibited
> <<>>>
> <<>>> All posts containing these items are rejected, and returned with
> <<>>> explanation if permitted by the automated software.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> * Obscenities
> <<>>> * Implied or direct threats, slander, insults, bigotry,
prejudice
> <<>>> or harassment
> <<>>> * Flaming, trolling, flooding, and personal verbal attacks
> <<>>> * Frequent petty criticism of another poster
> <<>>> * Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats
> <<>>> * Attacks on others based on gender, race, sexual orientation
> <<>>> or religion
> <<>>> * Commercial posts
> <<>>> * Excessive cross-posting, although limited, on-topic
cross-posting
> <<>>> is permitted
> <<>>> * Chain letters
> <<>>> * Posts written in HTML
> <<>>> * EMP spam
> <<>>> * Binaries, other than pgp signatures, x-face headers, and other
> <<>>> ancillary article meta-data
> <<>>> * Forgery of names, valid email addresses and/or approval
headers
> <<>>> * Excessive morphing/nym shifting ("excessive" is undefined but
is
> <<>>> at the discretion of the moderators)
> <<>>> * Excessive quoting of old material, with little new content
> <<>>> (these will be judgment calls made by the moderators)
> <<>>> * Personal identification information associated with anyone
other
> <<>>> than the poster (e.g. residential addresses, phone numbers
and
> <<>>> government identifications)
> <<>>> * Content advocating acts that would be intrinsically illegal
> <<>>> in most places
> <<>>> * Copyright violations. (However, pointers to news articles,
> <<>>> blogs, etc. that are on-topic are welcome. They must comply
with
> <<>>> fair use standards.)
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C04 Charter Implementation
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The charter of this newsgroup is implemented by a group of
moderators.
> <<>>> Their task is to develop and carry out the methods and means
necessary
> <<>>> to insure that the stated purposes of the group charter are
accomplished.
> <<>>> Their methods shall be defined as Moderation Policy and Practices.
(MPP)
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators make use of whatever tools and discussion processes
they deem
> <<>>> necessary to carry out their responsibilities. One such tool may
> <<>>> include the use of automated moderation software.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C05 Moderation Policy Objectives and Practices
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderation policy adheres to and carries out the stated goals and
> <<>>> purposes of the group. Moderation policy & practices (MPP) may be
> <<>>> changed by the moderators to meet the ongoing needs of the
newsgroup
> <<>>> charter.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the
> <<>>> newsgroup, and newsgroup readers are invited to share and discuss
> <<>>> their views of the proposed changes. Passage of the changes is by
a
> <<>>> 2/3 majority vote of the moderators. Changes are published in the
> <<>>> newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C06 Moderator Standards
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators approve or reject posts based upon content as listed in
C02
> <<>>> and C03 above. Moderators maintain a standard of neutrality and
> <<>>> non-bias. Moderators do not add, delete, or edit anything within
a
> <<>>> post. Tags are not added.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Decisions of the moderation team are final. Moderators permit
posts
> <<>>> that may contain technically incorrect information, provided that
the
> <<>>> post is not deemed to be deliberately deceptive. Any approved
post
> <<>>> that is forwarded to the newsgroup, and contains incorrect
information,
> <<>>> may and should be followed up by posts that attempt to correct the
> <<>>> misinformation. Such corrective posts may be made by any
interested
> <<>>> person/s in the newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> All personal posts made by moderators go through the same complete
> <<>>> process as posts made by the general readership of the group.
> <<>>> Moderators do not review their own posts, nor those of a relative.
> <<>>> Moderators who fail to abide by the charter and current moderation
> <<>>> policy may be warned and/or removed by the other moderators.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C07 Moderator Accessibility and Accountability
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The moderators provide options for both private and public
> <<>>> interaction with the readership of the newsgroup. An email
contact
> <<>>> address is provided for complaints, appeals, reviews and
suggestions.
> <<>>> The receipt of emails to the contact address is acknowledged by a
> <<>>> return email, provided a valid return address is given.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> In addition, the Charter provides for limited public discussion
> <<>>> of the general issues of moderation policy, group operation and
other
> <<>>> matters that affect the group.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators shall create and occasionally publish FAQ and other
> <<>>> documents that promote the functionality of the newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> C08 Readership Participation & Responsibility
> <<>>>
> <<>>> All participants in the group may:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> * Request changes to moderation policy and participate in the
> <<>>> discussion of changes.
> <<>>> * Privately ask for all moderators to review a specific rejected
> <<>>> post (within practical numerical limits determined by the
> <<>>> moderators.)
> <<>>> * Nominate new moderators.
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MODERATION POLICY: rec.ponds.moderated
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP01 Purpose
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The purpose of moderation policy & practices is to carry out the
> <<>>> objectives and goals of the charter. MPP may be changed as per
the
> <<>>> Charter and MPP13.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP02 Automated (robotic) Moderation Software
> <<>>>
> <<>>> If and when feasible, the moderation team may employ automated
> <<>>> moderation software to initially screen and pre-filter all
incoming
> <<>>> posts, and to ensure that all posts meet certain current
moderation
> <<>>> policies. Posts that do not will be automatically returned along
with
> <<>>> a brief explanation (if permitted by the automated software),
provided
> <<>>> that such posts have a valid return address. All posts that are
> <<>>> approved by the automated software will be forwarded to human
> <<>>> moderators for further examination.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP03 Cross-posting
> <<>>>
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> <<>>> (e.g.,fish hobby, gardening and wildlife management) will be
allowed.
> <<>>> No cross-posting to irrelevant groups will be permitted. Such
> <<>>> cross-posted messages shall be returned, provided a valid return
email
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> <<>>> handled by automated software.
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> <<>>>
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another
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> <<>>> Occasional name-shifting may be permitted, but excessive
name-shifting
> <<>>> will not be permitted, as per C03.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Automated robotic software methods to protect the author's
identity
> <<>>> may be employed through the use of voluntary passwords, pgp, or
any
> <<>>> other methods if and when such methods become technically
available.
> <<>>>
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> <<>>>
> <<>>> After approval by any automated software, messages are forwarded
> <<>>> to the moderators who will review them and then make final
decisions
> <<>>> of approval or rejection based upon the content of the post (C02
and
> <<>>> C03). There shall be no editing of any post by any moderator, as
> <<>>> stated in C06 of the Charter. Rejected messages shall be returned
to
> <<>>> the poster, provided a valid return address is available. If
> <<>>> permitted by the software, an explanation for the rejection shall
be
> <<>>> included.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP06 Moderator Approval and Rejection Policies
> <<>>>
> <<>>> At a minimum, when using automated software, one moderator may
> <<>>> approve a post to be forwarded to the newsgroup, and one moderator
may
> <<>>> reject a post and have it returned. If the automated robotic
software
> <<>>> contains a multi-pass/reject option, then more than one moderator
may
> <<>>> be asked to agree before a post is approved or rejected.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators may consult with one another before deciding to pass
> <<>>> or reject a post whose content is borderline or questionable.
This
> <<>>> consultation may add to the time-delay of the processing of a
post.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> If a post is rejected, it may be appealed to the Moderation Team,
> <<>>> provided it is seen as a legitimate request, and not as a
disruptive
> <<>>> attempt or tactic to distract or flood the team with large numbers
of
> <<>>> obviously inappropriate messages.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP07 Personal Advertising
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Very limited personal advertising shall be permitted. Such
> <<>>> advertising must be directly related to on-topic aquatic/pond
subject
> <<>>> matter. Such postings must be non-commercial and of a "for-sale"
type
> <<>>> for items that the poster no longer needs or wants. The number of
> <<>>> ads permitted by any one poster per any given time period shall be
> <<>>> left to the discretion of the moderators, with all posters subject
to
> <<>>> the same conditions.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP08 Ending Threads
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The moderators reserve the right to end a thread that has veered
> <<>>> significantly off-topic, or that has become dominated by rehashing
> <<>>> and/or repetition.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP09 Moderator Decisions
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The decisions of the moderation team shall be final.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP10 Structure of the Human Moderation Team
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The review and moderation of posts that are approved by the
automated
> <<>>> software program will be conducted by a Moderation Team.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The first moderation team members will be divided into two
classes,
> <<>>> and appointed for one or two year terms, to end on August 31, 2008
and
> <<>>> 2009 respectively. Thereafter a new class of moderators will be
> <<>>> elected annually during the month of August, to serve two-year
terms,
> <<>>> beginning on September 1st of the election year and continuing
through
> <<>>> August 31st of the second year after the election.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The current moderation team will select each new class of
moderators,
> <<>>> and election will be by a minimum 2/3 vote of the current
moderators.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The total number of moderators may be changed by the moderation
team,
> <<>>> which will seek to maintain an equal number of members in each
class.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The general readership of rec.ponds.moderated are encouraged to
> <<>>> propose/nominate potential moderators to the team, as per C08.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> When nominating and electing new moderators, all persons involved
> <<>>> shall remain mindful of the benefit and need for the moderation
team
> <<>>> to be as globally positioned as possible. This helps to ensure
> <<>>> adequate global representation and also to lower the time-delay
factor
> <<>>> in approving posts.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators may be re-elected. The moderation team shall elect
> <<>>> persons to fill vacancies using the 2/3 criterion for election.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP11 Head Moderator
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The moderation team may choose to elect a
(head/chief/administrative)
> <<>>> moderator by a majority vote, if it deems such a position to be
> <<>>> necessary. The duties and responsibilities of such a position
would
> <<>>> be determined as needed.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP12 Moderator Removal
> <<>>>
> <<>>> If a moderator does not abide by the charter and current
moderation
> <<>>> policies, the other moderators may warn and, if necessary, remove
> <<>>> that moderator by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderation team.
> <<>>> Moderators who wish to resign for any reason may do so by emailing
> <<>>> the head moderator or the moderation team.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP13 Changes to Moderation Policy & Practices
> <<>>>
> <<>>> As stated in the Charter, moderation policy & practices (MPP) may
> <<>>> be changed to meet the permanent objectives of the Charter and the
> <<>>> ongoing needs of the newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Proposed changes are announced by the moderators in the newsgroup,
> <<>>> and the general readership may discuss the proposed changes.
Changes
> <<>>> shall be adopted by a 2/3 majority of the current moderators, and
> <<>>> will be published in the newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> As stated in C08, the general readership may suggest changes to
> <<>>> policy and practices.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP14 Moderator Posts
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderators shall use [MODERATOR ANNOUNCE:] to preface official
> <<>>> informational posts to the readership of rec.ponds.moderated.
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MPP15 Moderator Contact Address
> <<>>>
> <<>>> As per C07, the moderators shall provide a contact email address
> <<>>> for anyone who wishes to make a complaint, question, or offer a
> <<>>> suggestion.
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> MODERATOR INFO: rec.ponds.moderated
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Moderator: Derek >
> <<>>> Moderator: Galen >
> <<>>> Moderator: ~jan >
> <<>>> Moderator: Jim >
> <<>>> Moderator: Kathy30a >
> <<>>> Moderator: Phyllis >
> <<>>> Moderator: Gill >
> <<>>>
> <<>>> At the time of the submission of the 3rd RFD/LCC, the proponent and
> <<>>> proposed moderators of r.p.m have chosen to use ReadySTUMP as the
> <<>>> automated software program for the newsgroup.
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Article Submissions:
> <<>>> Administrative Contact:
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> DISTRIBUTION:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> news.announce.newgroups
> <<>>> news.groups.proposals
> <<>>> rec.ponds
> <<>>> rec.aquaria.misc
> <<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
> <<>>>
> <<>>> The proponent will also post pointers to:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish
> <<>>> rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
> <<>>> alt.aquaria
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> PROPONENT:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Ron Schompert >
> <<>>>
> <<>>> Co-Proponent: Galen Hekhuis >
> <<>>>
> <<>>>
> <<>>> CHANGE HISTORY:
> <<>>>
> <<>>> 2006-12-14 1st RFD
> <<>>> 2007-01-12 2nd RFD
> <<>>> 2007-02-28 3rd RFD/LCC
> <<>>> 2007-03-05 Results
>
>
>
> -------
> I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Ghent]

"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
...
> YEA BABY!!!!
> that is super sweet
> :)
> jeez took a while but yes a big pat on the back for all involved
> very very well done
> WooooooooooooT!!!
>
>

No more asshole Tristan and no more idiot jabberhole.................
Yaaaaaaaaa HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[JudgeDread]

Roy Tristan Hauer admits STALKING and trolling target victim Carol Gulley.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tristin" >
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Green Brittle Star w/ chomped legs
>
> Certainly not a problem for me, no matter where the bitch trods, I'll
> be right behind her! Too bad its in this group...Just look at all the
> posts she has created here under the varoius othe rbymns, which have
> also been crossposted " convieiently" by her so to drag more adnmore
> groups and people into her mess. She is nothing but an attention
> whore.

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Mar 6, 11:17?am, "Heliope" > wrote:
> AND ANOTHER!!
>