Another good Betta article in TFH magazine

[Tynk]

There's another good article in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine about
Bettas and how badly treated they are. People keeping them in tiny,
unheated bowls. This is the second piece in a matter of months doing
so too.
Maybe folks will finally get a clue, stop mistreating them, and
actually care for them properly.
It'll take time to educate all the folks out there who don't. They
all
seem to think that just because it survives in a small, cold bowl
it's
perfectly fine. Well, it isn't. It's a fact that these fish need to
be
in warm water (78-80*f) in order to thrive. It's a fact that they,
just like any other fish thrive in a filtered tank.
It's also a fact that these fish need room to swim. They don't prefer
tiny bowls or vases.
So many people think that male Bettas can't be in with other
community
fish. Again, not so.
As long as they are the correct tank mates and aren't in with fin
nippers they do well.
While recently at a pet shop I was looking at the shipment of female
Bettas they had and a girl came up to me. She said "Don't buy a
female "bait-uh" (Duh..she can't even pronounce the name properly),
they'll suffocate." I have no clue where she got that one.
It's amazing at all the myths out there. These poor fish need a break
and some knowledgeable people buying them.
I'm adding the section where the article talks about tank size.
Sub-titled *Bigger is Better*.
It says that "recent scientific findings sugest that that the long
tern health of Bettas housed in tiny enclosures is compromised, with
the life span of closely confined speciemns being drastically shorter
than those animals that have plenty of room to swim about. Autopsied
specimens that were kept in small enclosures have been found to have
died from atrophied muscles and fatty degeneration of tissues, while
their counterparts maintain a high degree of muscle tissue and
experience much longer life spans. Specimens confined to tiny bowls
seldom exceed 18 months to 2 years in captivity, while free-ranging
specimens housed in larger aquaria may thrive for more than seven or
eight years!"
The article in the April -07 Issue of Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine
is written by Philip A. Purser.
He also goes on to talk about the need for filtration and how the
lack
of can lead to poor water conditions quickly and a Bettas fins can
quickly break down from it.
I urge anyone with a Betta or that knows somebody with one that
houses
it in a tiny, unheated, and unfiltered bowl/vase to read this
article.
I've been saying all of this stuff for many years and once again,
there's been a printed article saying the same.
Sometimes people need to read printed material to believe it.
It makes no difference what a fish costs or how cheap it is. If you
can't afford to give it the proper living conditions, you shouldn't
get it. Plain and simple.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> It makes no difference what a fish costs or how cheap it is. If you
> can't afford to give it the proper living conditions, you shouldn't
> get it. Plain and simple.
===============
I agree. Now we somehow have to get the pet stores to co-operate and not
sell bettas unless the person buys at least a 10g setup or proves they
already own such a set-up. Perhaps they can show a bill-of-sale for the
set-up they have.

Better yet is to stop importing them until some kind of law is passed to
protect fish as there are to protect other pets such as cats and dogs.
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[Tristin]

Or at a bare minimum have a neaby farm pond to toss your fish into so
you do not have to deal with any issues of health or feeding or
size..........
Tossing unwanted fish seems to be a habit of folks in TN without
values.......Odd behavior for a southern folk thoughk so more than
likely they were probably some carpet baggers from New York City that
found their way to TN.....Pityfull what some preople do.


On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:33:51 -0600, "Reel McKoi"
> wrote:

<<>>
<<>>"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
<<>>> It makes no difference what a fish costs or how cheap it is. If you
<<>>> can't afford to give it the proper living conditions, you shouldn't
<<>>> get it. Plain and simple.
<<>>===============
<<>>I agree. Now we somehow have to get the pet stores to co-operate and not
<<>>sell bettas unless the person buys at least a 10g setup or proves they
<<>>already own such a set-up. Perhaps they can show a bill-of-sale for the
<<>>set-up they have.
<<>>
<<>>Better yet is to stop importing them until some kind of law is passed to
<<>>protect fish as there are to protect other pets such as cats and dogs.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Reel McKoi]

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Or at a bare minimum have a neaby farm pond to toss your fish into so
> you do not have to deal with any issues of health or feeding or
> size..........
> Tossing unwanted fish seems to be a habit of folks in TN without
> values......

Like those who lack values and morals in AL who advise people to do illegal
killing of protected herons? What a total lack of morality.

..Odd behavior for a southern folk thoughk so more than
> likely they were probably some carpet baggers from New York City

Carpet baggers? Are you living in the 1800s? This is 2007 in case no one
informed you.

that
> found their way to TN.....Pityfull what some preople do.

Yes, especially those lacking values and morals and advise people to
illegally kill protected birds on pond groups.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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[Tynk]

On Mar 8, 9:09?pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:

Um yeah....
The subject is about Bettas.
If you are going to go on about more nonsense, can you do it some
where else.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Um yeah....
> The subject is about Bettas.
> If you are going to go on about more nonsense, can you do it some
> where else.
=========
Um, .... Yep,.... you're right, he should go somewhere else as this is his
OFF-TOPIC message. Not one word abut bettas as anyone can see. So I agree
with you 100% on this one.

"Tristin" > wrote in message
...
> Or at a bare minimum have a neaby farm pond to toss your fish into so
> you do not have to deal with any issues of health or feeding or
> size..........
> Tossing unwanted fish seems to be a habit of folks in TN without
> values.......Odd behavior for a southern folk thoughk so more than
> likely they were probably some carpet baggers from New York City that
> found their way to TN.....Pityfull what some preople do.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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>

[Ghent]

Like we said before, no one gives a rats ass about your ponds or fish
or plants Roy Hauer .......your a moron and dancing puppet.........go get
help you dumb asshole. Get a freaking life you low life scum bag .......your
a sick dancing puppet and a moron.

YOu were told to STFU you moron. Get back to dancing you dumbass! You
know nothing about fish.......go peel some bananas and feed that
grandkid or something or other, and let the fish advice tothose in the
know!

Get your head out of your ass dumbass........yet another dancing
puppet .....how cute!

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I forgot more about ponds and morons than I'll ever know!

[Tynk]

On Mar 8, 11:27�pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > Um yeah....
> > The subject is about Bettas.
> > If you are going to go on about more nonsense, can you do it some
> > where else.
>
> =========
> Um, .... *Yep,.... you're right, he should go somewhere else as this is his
> OFF-TOPIC message. *Not one word abut bettas as anyone can see. *So I agree
> with you 100% on this one.

> >
> - Show quoted text -


That was to you, and you knew it.
You are really reaching now a days.
If you aren't going to post about Bettas, do it someplace else.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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On Mar 8, 11:27�pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
> "Tynk" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > Um yeah....
> > The subject is about Bettas.
> > If you are going to go on about more nonsense, can you do it some
> > where else.
>
> =========
> Um, .... Yep,.... you're right, he should go somewhere else as this is his
> OFF-TOPIC message. Not one word abut bettas as anyone can see. So I agree
> with you 100% on this one.

> >
> - Show quoted text -


That was to you, and you knew it.

* Nope. It couldn't be to me as my post was ON-TOPIC. His was not. So
you're obviously confused.

You are really reaching now a days.
If you aren't going to post about Bettas, do it someplace else.

* You should "do it" somewhere else. My post was ON-TOPIC.
--
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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[Tynk]

On Mar 9, 5:45?pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:
You wrote:

<<Like those who lack values and morals in AL who advise people to do
illegal
killing of protected herons? What a total lack of morality.

..Odd behavior for a southern folk thoughk so more than



> likely they were probably some carpet baggers from New York City


Carpet baggers? Are you living in the 1800s? This is 2007 in case no
one
informed you.

that



> found their way to TN.....Pityfull what some preople do.


Yes, especially those lacking values and morals and advise people to
illegally kill protected birds on pond groups. >>>\


So how is this
ON topic about BETTAS????


You also wrote:
--


<<<Um, .... Yep,.... you're right, he should go somewhere else as
this is his
OFF-TOPIC message. Not one word abut bettas as anyone can see. So I
agree
with you 100% on this one. >>>

I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused.
How is this about Bettas in any way?
You claim your post was ON-TOPIC. How so?
Looked like a bunch of nonsense and bullcrap to me.
But you show me where you spoke of Bettas in the above copied and
pasted excerpts from your post which you claim was on topic.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> On Mar 9, 5:45?pm, "Reel McKoi" >
> wrote:
> You wrote:
>
> <<Like those who lack values and morals in AL who advise people to do
> illegal
> killing of protected herons? What a total lack of morality.
>
> .Odd behavior for a southern folk thoughk so more than
>
>
>
>> likely they were probably some carpet baggers from New York City
>
>
> Carpet baggers? Are you living in the 1800s? This is 2007 in case no
> one
> informed you.
>
> that
>
>
>
>> found their way to TN.....Pityfull what some preople do.
>
>
> Yes, especially those lacking values and morals and advise people to
> illegally kill protected birds on pond groups. >>>\
>
>
> So how is this
> ON topic about BETTAS????
>
>
> You also wrote:
> --
>
>
> <<<Um, .... Yep,.... you're right, he should go somewhere else as
> this is his
> OFF-TOPIC message. Not one word abut bettas as anyone can see. So I
> agree
> with you 100% on this one. >>>
>
> I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused.
> How is this about Bettas in any way?

How was HIS about bettas in any way?

> You claim your post was ON-TOPIC. How so?

The same as his was...... :-) Was his on-topic? Then mine was as well.

> Looked like a bunch of nonsense and bullcrap to me.

He always posts nonsense and bullcrap plus smut which you seem to eat right
up.

> But you show me where you spoke of Bettas in the above copied and
> pasted excerpts from your post which you claim was on topic.

Look at his and you'll see the same. You said his was on-topic, so mine was
as well.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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>

[Tynk]

On Mar 9, 6:47?pm, "Reel McKoi" >
wrote:

> > But you show me where you spoke of Bettas in the above copied and
> > pasted excerpts from your post which you claim was on topic.
>
> Look at his and you'll see the same. You said his was on-topic, so mine was
> as well.
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -

I never once said *his* post was on topic. You made that up. Stop
trying to twist things and make into something completely different.
It won't work with me.
And NOPE! You couldn't show where YOUR post was ON TOPIC like YOU
claimed, could you. Instead you tried to twist things around.
Typical Carol.
Stop posting off topic crap.
This topic was about Bettas, not the Carol show.

[Reel McKoi]

"Tynk" > wrote in message
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> On Mar 9, 6:47?pm, "Reel McKoi" >
> wrote:
>
>> > But you show me where you spoke of Bettas in the above copied and
>> > pasted excerpts from your post which you claim was on topic.
>>
>> Look at his and you'll see the same. You said his was on-topic, so mine
>> was
>> as well.
>> --
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I never once said *his* post was on topic. You made that up. Stop
> trying to twist things and make into something completely different.
> It won't work with me.

And your tactics wont work with me either. If you see nothing wrong with
his off-topic smut ridden posts, then you should see nothing wrong worth my
non-smut posts. At least I don't post the depraved crap he does.

> And NOPE! You couldn't show where YOUR post was ON TOPIC like YOU
> claimed,

The original one was before you and smut-boi jumped in with your unwanted,
unasked for off-topic crap.

could you. Instead you tried to twist things around.
> Typical Carol.
> Stop posting off topic crap.

I will as soon as YOU stop posting off topic crap.

> This topic was about Bettas, not the Carol show.

Right. YOU turned it into another TYNK-KNOWS-ALL show as usual.


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rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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