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Haynes'ey
June 9th 04, 09:18 AM
Being very new to the hobby could someone please tell me the procedure for
adding plants to the aquarium and what to go for.

I have a 40g tank and I am going to keep Goldfish and Comets is there a
plant or plants that they particularly like, I have seen the plants in the
plastic pots which look very good and I don't remember them being around
when I was a youngster with my Goldfish then.

Being a newbie I am into week3 of my cycle, I have been adding cycle liquid
and from reading other articles in the newsgroups am expecting high ammonia
readings.

So far ammonia is showing as zero but Nitrite and Nitrate are quite high is
this possible without some kind of ammonia reading.

Thanks for putting up with my inexperience, but I hope to be up to speed
pretty soon (about 30 years I guess).

Cheers everyone,

--
Haynes'ey.

Sue
June 9th 04, 01:48 PM
To reply to both of your posts together;-
Comets are goldfish - they get just as big & are just as messy. You could
only keep three or, at most, four in a 40g tank ;o(
Goldfish love plants, they eat them so your choice becomes very restricted.
Java fern is probably the most reliable. Egeria (elodea) is a good snack
that may grow quickly enough to remove some nitrates. Be careful as a lot of
the plants sold are not true aquatics & wil slowly die off however well you
look after them.

The Plecs will out grow the tank very soon, the sucking loach could become
aggresive & will grow big. All of these are tropicals so need warmer
temperatures than goldfish thrive at. The weather loach should be fine with
goldies.

Cycle is not AFAIK highly regarded. Try adding a pinch of fish food and
taking a reading next day. Nitite is a good sign -what is quite high?

Sue

"Haynes'ey" > wrote in message
...
> Being very new to the hobby could someone please tell me the procedure for
> adding plants to the aquarium and what to go for.
>
> I have a 40g tank and I am going to keep Goldfish and Comets is there a
> plant or plants that they particularly like, I have seen the plants in the
> plastic pots which look very good and I don't remember them being around
> when I was a youngster with my Goldfish then.
>
> Being a newbie I am into week3 of my cycle, I have been adding cycle
liquid
> and from reading other articles in the newsgroups am expecting high
ammonia
> readings.
>
> So far ammonia is showing as zero but Nitrite and Nitrate are quite high
is
> this possible without some kind of ammonia reading.
>
> Thanks for putting up with my inexperience, but I hope to be up to speed
> pretty soon (about 30 years I guess).
>
> Cheers everyone,
>
> --
> Haynes'ey.
>
>

NetMax
June 10th 04, 12:26 AM
"Haynes'ey" > wrote in message
...
> Being very new to the hobby could someone please tell me the procedure
for
> adding plants to the aquarium and what to go for.

Depends on fish.

> I have a 40g tank and I am going to keep Goldfish and Comets is there a
> plant or plants that they particularly like, I have seen the plants in
the
> plastic pots which look very good and I don't remember them being
around
> when I was a youngster with my Goldfish then.

Goldfish eat live plants. Think along the lines of plastic and silk
plants.

> Being a newbie I am into week3 of my cycle, I have been adding cycle
liquid
> and from reading other articles in the newsgroups am expecting high
ammonia
> readings.

What is your source of ammonia? Do you have any fish in there?

> So far ammonia is showing as zero but Nitrite and Nitrate are quite
high is
> this possible without some kind of ammonia reading.

You can gave nitrate in your tap water, but nitrite would be unusual
unless you initially had ammonia from some source.

> Thanks for putting up with my inexperience, but I hope to be up to
speed
> pretty soon (about 30 years I guess).

I've been doing this for over 30 years and I'm no where near finished
learning, but I'm still having fun.
--
www.NetMax.tk

> Cheers everyone,
>
> --
> Haynes'ey.
>
>

Haynes'ey
June 10th 04, 01:14 PM
--
Haynes'ey.
"Sue" > wrote in message
...
> To reply to both of your posts together;-
> Comets are goldfish - they get just as big & are just as messy. You could
> only keep three or, at most, four in a 40g tank ;o(
> Goldfish love plants, they eat them so your choice becomes very
restricted.
> Java fern is probably the most reliable. Egeria (elodea) is a good snack
> that may grow quickly enough to remove some nitrates. Be careful as a lot
of
> the plants sold are not true aquatics & wil slowly die off however well
you
> look after them.
>
> The Plecs will out grow the tank very soon, the sucking loach could become
> aggresive & will grow big. All of these are tropicals so need warmer
> temperatures than goldfish thrive at. The weather loach should be fine
with
> goldies.
>
> Cycle is not AFAIK highly regarded. Try adding a pinch of fish food and
> taking a reading next day. Nitite is a good sign -what is quite high?

Hello Sue, I added some fish flakes about a pinch yesterday.

Today: Ammonia still zero, Nitrate approx 20mg (I'm going by a colour
chart), Nitrite approx 0.8mg (again by colour chart).

For a couple of days I had a large cloud but that has now gone and
everything is looking rosey in the garden.

Thanks again,

Haynes'ey.

Haynes'ey
June 10th 04, 01:17 PM
--
Haynes'ey.
"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Haynes'ey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Being very new to the hobby could someone please tell me the procedure
> for
> > adding plants to the aquarium and what to go for.
>
> Depends on fish.
>
> > I have a 40g tank and I am going to keep Goldfish and Comets is there a
> > plant or plants that they particularly like, I have seen the plants in
> the
> > plastic pots which look very good and I don't remember them being
> around
> > when I was a youngster with my Goldfish then.
>
> Goldfish eat live plants. Think along the lines of plastic and silk
> plants.

Sounds ok to me.

>
> > Being a newbie I am into week3 of my cycle, I have been adding cycle
> liquid
> > and from reading other articles in the newsgroups am expecting high
> ammonia
> > readings.
>
> What is your source of ammonia? Do you have any fish in there?

I had some plants which I took out beginning of last week, and then from
another posters reply last night I put in some flakes.

>
> > So far ammonia is showing as zero but Nitrite and Nitrate are quite
> high is
> > this possible without some kind of ammonia reading.
>
> You can gave nitrate in your tap water, but nitrite would be unusual
> unless you initially had ammonia from some source.
>
> > Thanks for putting up with my inexperience, but I hope to be up to
> speed
> > pretty soon (about 30 years I guess).
>
> I've been doing this for over 30 years and I'm no where near finished
> learning, but I'm still having fun.

I hope to be saying the same then, thanks for your comments.

Haynes'ey

> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>
> > Cheers everyone,
> >
> > --
> > Haynes'ey.
> >
> >
>
>

NetMax
June 11th 04, 02:55 AM
"Haynes'ey" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> --
> Haynes'ey.
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > "Haynes'ey" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Being very new to the hobby could someone please tell me the
procedure
> > for
> > > adding plants to the aquarium and what to go for.
> >
> > Depends on fish.
> >
> > > I have a 40g tank and I am going to keep Goldfish and Comets is
there a
> > > plant or plants that they particularly like, I have seen the plants
in
> > the
> > > plastic pots which look very good and I don't remember them being
> > around
> > > when I was a youngster with my Goldfish then.
> >
> > Goldfish eat live plants. Think along the lines of plastic and silk
> > plants.
>
> Sounds ok to me.
>
> >
> > > Being a newbie I am into week3 of my cycle, I have been adding
cycle
> > liquid
> > > and from reading other articles in the newsgroups am expecting high
> > ammonia
> > > readings.
> >
> > What is your source of ammonia? Do you have any fish in there?
>
> I had some plants which I took out beginning of last week, and then
from
> another posters reply last night I put in some flakes.

That's the problem then. Typical sources of ammonia are fish (their
waste) or anything decomposing (fish food, rotting plant matter etc).
I'm not sure why you detected nitrites, unless you had some pre-existing
ammonia which is now gone. These things will balance out when you have a
more constant ammonia source for your filter's biological component to
grow with.
--
www.NetMax.tk


> >
> > > So far ammonia is showing as zero but Nitrite and Nitrate are quite
> > high is
> > > this possible without some kind of ammonia reading.
> >
> > You can gave nitrate in your tap water, but nitrite would be unusual
> > unless you initially had ammonia from some source.
> >
> > > Thanks for putting up with my inexperience, but I hope to be up to
> > speed
> > > pretty soon (about 30 years I guess).
> >
> > I've been doing this for over 30 years and I'm no where near finished
> > learning, but I'm still having fun.
>
> I hope to be saying the same then, thanks for your comments.
>
> Haynes'ey
>
> > --
> > www.NetMax.tk
> >
> > > Cheers everyone,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Haynes'ey.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>