Lion Fish in the Atlantic

[KurtG]

I discovered that lion fish have established themselves in the atlantic.
Apparently, enough escaped to form a colony to start breeding and a few
have gotten large. I suppose some aquarist decided to release them.

The speer fishermen have been destroying them on site, and the local
reef research team has been starting to track sightings to determine
their prevalence.

Just curious if there would be a market for them if caught. I checked
on the venom and there don't seem to be any known/reported deaths and
it's easily treated with a hot pack.

--Kurt

[Pondmeister]

Yea right you "Discovered"...You really did not discover a dam thing
Kurt, you "found out" about them..........big ****ing difference in
finding out and discovering anything. Your tooo freaking stupid to
know what is what thats why you hang in this useless group to suck up
any tidbits of info thrown out by folks passing through, certianly not
good crap form those that always inhabit this god foresaken group of
babbling idiots!

On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:04:33 -0400, KurtG
> wrote:

<<>>
<<>>I discovered that lion fish have established themselves in the atlantic.
<<>> Apparently, enough escaped to form a colony to start breeding and a few
<<>>have gotten large. I suppose some aquarist decided to release them.
<<>>
<<>>The speer fishermen have been destroying them on site, and the local
<<>>reef research team has been starting to track sightings to determine
<<>>their prevalence.
<<>>
<<>>Just curious if there would be a market for them if caught. I checked
<<>>on the venom and there don't seem to be any known/reported deaths and
<<>>it's easily treated with a hot pack.
<<>>
<<>>--Kurt



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[atomweaver]

KurtG > wrote in
:

>
> I discovered that lion fish have established themselves in the
> atlantic.
> Apparently, enough escaped to form a colony to start breeding and a
> few
> have gotten large. I suppose some aquarist decided to release them.
>

You suppose incorrectly... Lionfish are more often than not assumed to
have gotten transferred via transport in large ship ballast water, like
most invasive marine species.

http://massbay.mit.edu/exoticspecies/ballast/index.html

Compared to a single trip by a modern double hulled oil tanker, the
activities of marine aquarists are a literal Drop in the Pond (not that
that excuses the release of non-native species!).

> The speer fishermen have been destroying them on site, and the local
> reef research team has been starting to track sightings to determine
> their prevalence.
>
> Just curious if there would be a market for them if caught. I
> checked on the venom and there don't seem to be any known/reported
> deaths and it's easily treated with a hot pack.
>

Correct, although I'd guess that there aren't enough aquarists ready to
accept enough lionfish to make a significant impact on their Atlantic
population. The east coast price of lionfish for the aquarium trade
might drop a bit, not that they're particulary expensive to begin with.

Regards,
DaveZ

[KurtG]

atomweaver wrote:
> You suppose incorrectly... Lionfish are more often than not assumed to
> have gotten transferred via transport in large ship ballast water, like
> most invasive marine species.

See means of introduction:
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/aquatics/lionfish.shtml

http://www.nccos.noaa.gov/news/feature/1003.html#evidence

"There is no evidence to suggest that ballast water is a source for the
lionfish invasion although it is a common source of many marine
invertebrate introductions."

There was also a confirmed release of lionfish in 1992.

But, then nobody knows for certain. You may be correct.

You're right. They are only worth $30 or so.

--Kurt

[Pondmeister]

Yea and I have beach front property for sale in Arizona

On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:02:54 -0400, KurtG
> wrote:

<<>>atomweaver wrote:
<<>>> You suppose incorrectly... Lionfish are more often than not assumed to
<<>>> have gotten transferred via transport in large ship ballast water, like
<<>>> most invasive marine species.
<<>>
<<>>See means of introduction:
<<>>http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/aquatics/lionfish.shtml
<<>>
<<>>http://www.nccos.noaa.gov/news/feature/1003.html#evidence
<<>>
<<>>"There is no evidence to suggest that ballast water is a source for the
<<>>lionfish invasion although it is a common source of many marine
<<>>invertebrate introductions."
<<>>
<<>>There was also a confirmed release of lionfish in 1992.
<<>>
<<>>But, then nobody knows for certain. You may be correct.
<<>>
<<>>You're right. They are only worth $30 or so.
<<>>
<<>>--Kurt
<<>>



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