Heater ran wild, fish are ok though

[Dana Taramina]

Yikes. Went away for a night, came home and my water temp was 92
degrees! Fish seemed to be fine though, I honestly thought they'd be
cooked when I opened the hood and got blasted by the heat. Wholly cow.
I had the thermostat set at 71. So I'm off to Big Al's for a new
heater.

Dana

[Pondmeister]

Do yourself a favor and get a good brand heater..such as Eheim Jaeger
(Old EBO-Jaeger) but before you buy I would personally buy 2 heaters.
If you need say 150 watts to keep your tank in the right area, buy 2
75 watters or a 100 and a 50 watt. Setting both heaters to achieve the
desired temp will prevent overheating the tank and cooking the fish
lus if one fails and doe snot heat and temp drops its still going to
keep them warmer than none would...2 heatrs is the best way to go
unless you have a high end temp controller...its really cheap
insurance.

On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:00:54 -0400, Dana Taramina
> wrote:

<<>>Yikes. Went away for a night, came home and my water temp was 92
<<>>degrees! Fish seemed to be fine though, I honestly thought they'd be
<<>>cooked when I opened the hood and got blasted by the heat. Wholly cow.
<<>>I had the thermostat set at 71. So I'm off to Big Al's for a new
<<>>heater.
<<>>
<<>>Dana



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Pondmeister]

Since you did not state what type of fish you had, if they are nothng
more than goldies, you can more than likely forgo a heater as they can
easily tolerate temps encountered in a typical house environment
without the need for a heater


On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:21:22 -0500, Pondmeister
> wrote:

<<>>Do yourself a favor and get a good brand heater..such as Eheim Jaeger
<<>>(Old EBO-Jaeger) but before you buy I would personally buy 2 heaters.
<<>>If you need say 150 watts to keep your tank in the right area, buy 2
<<>>75 watters or a 100 and a 50 watt. Setting both heaters to achieve the
<<>>desired temp will prevent overheating the tank and cooking the fish
<<>>lus if one fails and doe snot heat and temp drops its still going to
<<>>keep them warmer than none would...2 heatrs is the best way to go
<<>>unless you have a high end temp controller...its really cheap
<<>>insurance.
<<>>
<<>>On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:00:54 -0400, Dana Taramina
> wrote:
<<>>
<<>><<>>Yikes. Went away for a night, came home and my water temp was 92
<<>><<>>degrees! Fish seemed to be fine though, I honestly thought they'd be
<<>><<>>cooked when I opened the hood and got blasted by the heat. Wholly cow.
<<>><<>>I had the thermostat set at 71. So I'm off to Big Al's for a new
<<>><<>>heater.
<<>><<>>
<<>><<>>Dana
<<>>
<<>>
<<>>
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<<>>I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

[Dana Taramina]

On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:21:22 -0500, Pondmeister
> wrote:

>Do yourself a favor and get a good brand heater..such as Eheim Jaeger
>(Old EBO-Jaeger) but before you buy I would personally buy 2 heaters.
>If you need say 150 watts to keep your tank in the right area, buy 2
>75 watters or a 100 and a 50 watt. Setting both heaters to achieve the
>desired temp will prevent overheating the tank and cooking the fish
>lus if one fails and doe snot heat and temp drops its still going to
>keep them warmer than none would...2 heatrs is the best way to go
>unless you have a high end temp controller...its really cheap
>insurance.

Good idea, thanks.

Dana

[Dana Taramina]

On Mon, 14 May 2007 20:58:20 -0500, Pondmeister
> wrote:

>Since you did not state what type of fish you had, if they are nothng
>more than goldies, you can more than likely forgo a heater as they can
>easily tolerate temps encountered in a typical house environment
>without the need for a heater

Sorry. I posted recently about floating upside-down ryukins after
feeding. One of the suggestions was to raise the water temperature,
because I didn't have a heater in the tank. (Thinking, as you suggest
here, that my goldies didn't need one.) That's when I put the heater
back in the tank, and this happened. It's a fairly new heater, but one
of the reasons I took it out of the tank in the first place was that I
found it unreliable. (Always ran higher than I had it set for.) But
nothing like this last episode. Brand name on the heater is "Theo".
(Hubby picked it up fpr me when I asked him to, I didn't buy it
myself.)

Oh, and the fish did seem happier and didn't float as badly when the
water was warmer.

Dana

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get the smallest heater will do the job. insurance. Ingrid

Dana Taramina > wrote:

>Yikes. Went away for a night, came home and my water temp was 92
>degrees! Fish seemed to be fine though, I honestly thought they'd be
>cooked when I opened the hood and got blasted by the heat. Wholly cow.
>I had the thermostat set at 71. So I'm off to Big Al's for a new
>heater.
>
>Dana



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have you changed the food/ feeding amounts?

Dana Taramina > wrote:
>Oh, and the fish did seem happier and didn't float as badly when the
>water was warmer.
>
>Dana



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[Dana Taramina]

On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:37:14 GMT, wrote:

>get the smallest heater will do the job. insurance. Ingrid

I will. I noticed that the heater my hubby bought is a monster. I
hadn't noticed before. 300w.

Dana

[Dana Taramina]

On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:38:35 GMT, wrote:

>have you changed the food/ feeding amounts?

The food label reads pretty well, really not much in the way of carbs
and way down the list, so I kept it. I'm feeding really tiny amounts
and soaking it and squashing it first so it sinks. They seem to be
doing better, but are still floating after feeding. Just not for as
long. So I'll get the new heater, keep the temp higher and consistent,
do weekly instead of bi-weekly water changes. Does that sound better?
Oh, and probably take the gravel out too.

Dana

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get wet pack krill and see if they float with small pinches of that. you might be
able to get the fish to come to your fingers and give them their pinch to stop the
piggies from pushing in to get it all. Ingrid

Dana Taramina > wrote:

>On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:38:35 GMT, wrote:
>
>>have you changed the food/ feeding amounts?
>
>The food label reads pretty well, really not much in the way of carbs
>and way down the list, so I kept it. I'm feeding really tiny amounts
>and soaking it and squashing it first so it sinks. They seem to be
>doing better, but are still floating after feeding. Just not for as
>long. So I'll get the new heater, keep the temp higher and consistent,
>do weekly instead of bi-weekly water changes. Does that sound better?
>Oh, and probably take the gravel out too.
>
>Dana



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[Dana Taramina]

On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:39:25 GMT, wrote:

>get wet pack krill and see if they float with small pinches of that. you might be
>able to get the fish to come to your fingers and give them their pinch to stop the
>piggies from pushing in to get it all. Ingrid

Wet pack as opposed to freeze dried? I'll so see. How about frozen?

Dana

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yeah, frozen wet pack krill or daphnia. no tube worms and people have found
bloodworms in their tanks after feeding. krill are sal****er and much less likely to
carry diseases to fresh water fish. Ingrid

Dana Taramina > wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:39:25 GMT, wrote:
>
>>get wet pack krill and see if they float with small pinches of that. you might be
>>able to get the fish to come to your fingers and give them their pinch to stop the
>>piggies from pushing in to get it all. Ingrid
>
>Wet pack as opposed to freeze dried? I'll so see. How about frozen?
>
>Dana



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[Dana Taramina]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 11:54:23 GMT, wrote:

>yeah, frozen wet pack krill or daphnia. no tube worms and people have found
>bloodworms in their tanks after feeding. krill are sal****er and much less likely to
>carry diseases to fresh water fish. Ingrid

Great - thanks for all of your help.

Dana